Heavy barrel bolt action 22lr

I think ive come down to this:

1 - buy a mark 2 fv with a boyd stock. About 600 for everything and a few spare mags

2- buy a boyd pro varmint for my ruger american 22lr

What do you guys think would be best to improve accuracy?

Im just trying other ammo with the rar and it shot 0.6 to 0.7 5 shots groups with cci velocitor at 50y.
 
VinceMarksman said:
I think ive come down to this:

1 - buy a mark 2 fv with a boyd stock. About 600 for everything and a few spare mags

2- buy a boyd pro varmint for my ruger american 22lr

What do you guys think would be best to improve accuracy?

Im just trying other ammo with the rar and it shot 0.6 to 0.7 5 shots groups with cci velocitor at 50y.
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I would expect the Mark II FV to outshoot the Ruger, even with the Tupperware stock. It is a shame the Boyds stocks are so expensive in Canada. The US guys are only paying $129 for them.
 
Unless you really are stuck on the shorter barrel, the Savage MK II BTSV (Stainless, Thumbhole, Varmint (Heavy Barrel) is a much cheaper option. They sell regularly for $599 retail and can be had on the EE for much less $350-450 and is accurate out of the box. The CZ455 are another option but selling prices are typically a few hundred dollars more expensive. I wouldn't expect the Ruger american to be competitive against the savage mkII action. The marlin XT-22 is probably a better action to build around if you can't find a savage Mk II.
 
I have both a Savage and a CZ. The CZ is a much nicer gun. It's sturdy, we'll machined and just feels like quality. But once I'm behind the gun I totally prefer the Savage. It's smoother and has a better trigger. I have added an SSS stock and and Apache Trigger. It's a great little rifle but the tightest groups came from the CZ.

Another advantage of the Savage is the cheap mags. I have 5 and bought them for $100 before tax. Thats 2 CZ mags on sale.
 
Odd, my CZ mags were $25 each. I guess it depends where you buy them.

The CZs are nicely made, classic style rifles. They can be deadly accurate, sometimes with a bit of work to get there. Out of the box, some are outstanding, some are so-so. Good rifles for those that like to tinker with things to get the most out of them.
That's been my personal experience, your mileage may vary, as always.
 
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If only the mark 2 fv stock would not suck that bad. The boyd stock is 130 usd plus 58usd shipping. Plus actual quebec taxes and custom fees. Yuk
 
What about a savage TR. I believe it has a boyds stock, fluted heavy barrel, cool bolt knob and is 599 at cabelas. Put a EGW s ope rail on it and you are done. I think it will take the mark II 10 rnf mags.
 
kinta said:
What about a savage TR. I believe it has a boyds stock, fluted heavy barrel, cool bolt knob and is 599 at cabelas. Put a EGW s ope rail on it and you are done. I think it will take the mark II 10 rnf mags.
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It probably is a good gun. Don't know much about the stock, as Savage says it is wood, but it looks synthetic? The fluted barrel and cool bolt knob are purely cosmetic. In fact some believe fluting reduces accuracy. I see the BV is $450. I don't think I would pay $150 extra for the TR over the BV. The BV stock is fine once you bed it, and put pillars in.

I would not put a rail on either gun. They both come with Weaver style bases. The lower you mount your scope the less susceptible you are to canting error.
 
Just thought I'd throw this up here if you're looking for something totally different. Scope is a Hawke Vantage 6-24x44. I'm getting really close to the 1/2" challenge with it.

 
Thanks guys. Think i now have plenty of info to make a choice. The mark 2 bv and bvt are appealing give. The stock looks of good quality and wouldnt need to be swaped over.
 
VinceMarksman said:
bedding and pillar sound beyond my skill set but the BV clearly look appealing
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Here is how I did it on my BTVS. The BV would be similar if not identical. What I found is that the BTVS that I had shot the most accurate with about 24 in-lbs of torque on the action screws. However you really should not try and put that much on a non bedded and non pillar stock. A close second for accuracy was about 8 in-lbs, which does not need bedding or pillars. An intermediate torque was the worst. So one strategy might be to go with a fairly low torque on an unbedded stock and see if you are OK with the accuracy. If not, then decide if you want to go the bedding route.
 
VinceMarksman said:
Ron

Thanks a lot
So the bv or bvt stock is worth keeping?
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Do you mean the BV and BTV? If so the differences are mainly cosmetic. The BTV is a thumbhole, and it has two swivels at the front to attach a bipod. The BV has only one swivel for a sling. The trigger guard on the BV is a surface mount, while the BTV is a flush mount. No differences in potential accuracy. And yes I think the Savage laminates are as good as the Boyd laminates. Again the differences are essentially cosmetic. The only issue is that these stocks and including the Boyds and the stocks on many guns cannot take a lot of torque on the action screws. The solution to that is to just torque them to about 8 in-lbs. Use a fish scale on the end of an allen wrench. I found my BTVS was very accurate at 8 in-lbs.

In any case I see the BV at both Cabelas ($450) and Wholesale ($470), but I don't see the BTV at either.
 
Savage - cheap gun made form cheap materials. Accurate ?? Some are mine weren't and I had 7 or so I forget now sort of washed my mind of that misfortune.

Cz - Worthy of passing down for generations. All of mine are more accurate then any salvage I have had out of box. Fit and finish is 10x better. Bolt runs smooth and it nice and tight fit. (there is a difference between that and sloppy which most people mistake for smooth) My cz haven't costed more then $35 and they are not made from cheap tinfoil either.
 
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