Do they have a website?
HELP PLEASE WITH SCOPE for new ruger precision rifle
- Thread starter silen
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Do they have a website?
Bushnell?
Yep. And remember, glass quality is subjective. What one person sees isn't necessarily what others see.
To a point, resolution is pretty universal.
Sightron s3 can see .223 holes at 300 yards easily at 20 power, my dmr had a hard time seeing .308 holes at 200 yards at max power. Most folks that used the sightron 6-24 ffp back to back with the 3.5-21 dmr commented on the large difference in resolution. I often had to use the sightron to spot for the bushnell, usually only on 18x mag. It's not a small difference in quality.
But I certainly would have smashed the bushy off of a barricade and expected it to take less damage. The glass was my only complaint with it...
The Sightrons aren't built for heavy field use. They're rarely seen in PRS matches. I wouldn't use one, not even if I was given to me for free... On a F-class rifle, sure. On a magfed tactical rifle... it's like putting street slick tires on a Hummer H1.
My Premier Heritage was acting up by the end of the last match I shot and my CG Xtreme trigger had to be swapped out half way though the match. In the same match, several people's Jewell triggers failed, and I heard a few scopes did too but I'm not sure what they were.
Keep on saving - then buy a Vortex Razor HD genII - that what we are bolting onto our new Ruger .308 precision rifle.
And here's the reason why ---- http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/10/18/best-tactical-scopes-and-reticles/
And here's the reason why ---- http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/10/18/best-tactical-scopes-and-reticles/
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Ive had great luck with my sightrons. I even had my 110ba fall over and hit the windage turret on the ground. The post that the turret attaches to is bent and now the cap rubs on the body when you turn it. But it held zero after the fall and still hasnt failed.
They dont "feel" as beefy as a NF but that doesnt mean they arnt up to the task for the average shooter.
Im really interested to hear stories about why you wouldnt run one. Other then you have to much invested in shooting to use a scope that may be questionable. Because i fully understand that.
I also want to add that its possible to make a zero stop for the sightrons. You just need something under the turret. I used a piece of 1/2" copper pipe.
Basically...
Consider the cost of going to a big match:
$250-275 entry fee
$50-100 for the practice day
200-250 round of ammo for the match
100-200 rounds for the practice day
Air travel + car rental or gas if you drive
4-5 nights in a hotel
Food
Time and ammo spent training for it and getting solid dope in the weeks leading up to it.
A trigger or a bolt can be swapped out, but if your scope goes down... Most matches specify that you must use the same rifle throughout the match. So, you can't swap it for a back-up rifle that's zeroed. Even if you had a back-up scope (which you probably won't if you're worrying about cost from the get-go) you won't get a proper re-zero and there aren't any sighters. The best you can do is to sacrifice your time on the next stage to do a field expedient zero. You will have to tell them to give you zero on the stage since you won't be able to shoot from prone for score when the stage is likely mostly barricade shooting. When you see 1-3 high-end scope going down in a match, it just isn't worth it. It's false economy.
PRS matches put equipment to the test. Scope manufacturers that are after military contracts are climbing over each other to sponsor these matches because they see it as valid field testing. They say so in their spiel before handing out the scopes they've donated to the prize tables. If you're looking for a reliable scope for field shooting, look at the stats in the Precision Rifle Blog for the PRS finale match. Shooters had to shoot 3 matches to get there and they're competing for $5000 cash and a $13,000 rifle system. They aren't going to go into that with something they don't trust. If a brand of scope is popular in the finale, that's a testament to it's robustness. If a scope hasn't ever made it to the finale, there's a reason for it. Especially if it's a popular scope in other long range shooting circles. You can bet people have tried to use it.
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Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Summerland, BC
If there are any Tangent Theta tactical scopes at these matches, would love to hear how they are fairing.
Jerry
Jerry
Now this isn't slagging as I have nothing against Sightron or its users. I've had this happen with both NF and the DMR. Both times didn't do any damage. Now that's not surprising but the reason it matters to me is because range trips for me usually involve driving an hour in good conditions and up to 2 hours when the roads are wet. One way. My favourite area has a number of ideal LR spots but the roads are bad and most places have no vehicle access. I buried my old 4runner on 35s with a rear locker trying to get into one spot. Quad or foot access several kms back in the bush. If I have a failure I can't fix its a huge waste of time and gas for me. If I trust my equipment then its worth the money to me. If I'm worried about it being a little too fragile I naturally want to replace it. It won't make sense to everyone but it makes perfect sense to me. Again, not slagging anyone.
Father Hood
Regular
- Location
- Lower Mainland, BC
I just got my RPR in my hands today and am also looking for a new scope. Thinking of the Burris XTR ii as well. Wondering if someone has an opinion on what magnification they would choose and why. My RPR is .243 and I will be using it for targets out to 1000 and coyote hunting. Might also drop it on my Tikka T3 varmint in 7mm RM again for LR targets and hunting larger game.
I am considering these ones from Burris:
3x15
4x20
5x25
I am considering these ones from Burris:
3x15
4x20
5x25
They just started shipping and the season has just started. So, there isn't much data on them.
I did see two of them at the GAP Grind in October. I doubt either went down because word of that would have spread like wildfire.
What kind of matches do you shoot? Is it due to the 'field' conditions as in dust and debris? Or do you guys just abuse stuff while running and gunning?
Combination of both. Many matches are held in the southwest. Cool fact: they actually use "Arizona Dust" in automotive and military dust ingress testing because it's very fine and very abrasive. And, in these matches, you often crawl through obstacles and shoot off bare ground.
Even on clean ranges in green places, you're navigating obstacles, moving in and out of confined spaces (like car interiors) and putting the rifle through small openings to shoot. And, you're doing so under the clock, usually with just enough time to get off all of your shots if you execute things perfectly. What happens when you're trying to do it quickly, sometimes out of breath? Your scope gets smacked off of walls, car frames and rocks.
Have a look at their Veracity line. I have both the 4-20x50 and the 5-25x50 and the glass and reticle are every bit as good as the XTR II's. They are lighter but have no illumination and the turrets are capped. If you do more hunting, these are the way to go. Either one would be great on a .243. Love the new Burris stuff, it sets a whole new bar in this price range. The quality is so much better than the older gens, having seen the Burris evolution for decades. They're really getting things done right now.
