Hungry Longview Precision Rifle & CQB Clinic 06-10 July 2013 - Shooting Camp!!

My thoughts exactly Silverado. Hungry & Buckaroo made the hard choice because it was the right one. I'm ready for the next go round.
 
A big thanks to Buckaroo for a place to hold the course. Now my thoughts on the course. Day one 5 steel plates set about 100m apart out to 500m, with a hill in the middle so day one had a max distance of 248m shooting at 2 foot by 4foot steel plates, 24 shooters shooting the same plate no paint left on target after a very short time, no precision required ! Part way through the day the range was closed for a half hour and we were all told to get a tape and start measuring stuff windows doors tires etc,nothing was ever said about how to use this info, another half hour wasted. Long lunch. After lunch more short range crap like two shooters three targets ten seconds max to shoot them, precision shooting with a target rifle on a bi pod? More like cowboy action shooting only i think the cowboys use smaller targets! Day two plates set out across the river at 235m 375m 515m 600m same BIG 2 by4 foot plates,shooting point was to be from the top on a 150 foot cliff across the river to see the first target you had to have your bi pod right on the edge with the barrel hanging over the edge of a unstable gravel and sand cliff 150 foot drop with maybe one bounce into the High wood river! After about 20 min of discussion they were convinced to move the firing line to a more stable area, more time wasted! Shot the the first three targets before lunch not much fun and not a lot of precision required. Looong lunch. After lunch finally shooting 600m,it would have been fun shooting a 12'' gong but that big fricking sheet of steel not much fun! 2:30 range closed course over. Yes I'm a little bitter,long range not available,precision not required, it might have been an ok course to shoot with an SKS.
 
44bear said:
A big thanks to Buckaroo for a place to hold the course. Now my thoughts on the course. Day one 5 steel plates set about 100m apart out to 500m, with a hill in the middle so day one had a max distance of 248m shooting at 2 foot by 4foot steel plates, 24 shooters shooting the same plate no paint left on target after a very short time, no precision required ! Part way through the day the range was closed for a half hour and we were all told to get a tape and start measuring stuff windows doors tires etc,nothing was ever said about how to use this info, another half hour wasted. Long lunch. After lunch more short range crap like two shooters three targets ten seconds max to shoot them, precision shooting with a target rifle on a bi pod? More like cowboy action shooting only i think the cowboys use smaller targets! Day two plates set out across the river at 235m 375m 515m 600m same BIG 2 by4 foot plates,shooting point was to be from the top on a 150 foot cliff across the river to see the first target you had to have your bi pod right on the edge with the barrel hanging over the edge of a unstable gravel and sand cliff 150 foot drop with maybe one bounce into the High wood river! After about 20 min of discussion they were convinced to move the firing line to a more stable area, more time wasted! Shot the the first three targets before lunch not much fun and not a lot of precision required. Looong lunch. After lunch finally shooting 600m,it would have been fun shooting a 12'' gong but that big fricking sheet of steel not much fun! 2:30 range closed course over. Yes I'm a little bitter,long range not available,precision not required, it might have been an ok course to shoot with an SKS.
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All excellent points. All good criticism. All well taken. We need this feedback. Thanks a bunch. Yeah, it was a challenge after the Tsunami of the century. I'm thankful for the wonderful community that we brought together considering the hardship that many of you and your neighbors had to experience. I'm thankful for the new shooters who came out despite the crazy weather on day 2.

44bear , please PM me and I can certainly refund your money if I did not meet your expectations. No worries. The one advantage I've appreciated after turning 50 years old is that life don't work out according to plan and we work with what we've got. I'm so glad you guys in AB, SK, and BC have such a strong supportive shooting community.

Max owner and all who are curious;

We could not use our planned CQB range because of the Tsunami's effect on the Highwood River bank we planned to use. Our secondary site was discovered to be unsafe also. We ceased the exercise and I have offered refunds. Now let's look forward to next year...

Cheers,
Barney
 
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A big THANKS goes out from me and the guys I was shooting with to Hungry and Buckaroo for a stellar effort in making this thing happen!!!
It would have been wayyyyy too easy to simply cancel the shoot.

Hungry and Buckaroo didn't quit!! They persevered through less than ideal conditions and pulled off a good event.

Were the targets too large, too close, and too few... YES!!

BUT

We realize that this is a work in progress, and that a substantial flood in which people lost their lives had a large impact on this clinic.
We still had a great time, learned a few new tricks, and had a great opportunity to meet some very good like minded shooters.

I will be there again next year, come Hell or High River!! ;)

AND

I would be more than happy to volunteer to help out in any way!!


TARGET B1TCH!!
 
I'm with you TangoKilo - every word. Consider everthing that happened before the event and the fact that Buckaroo was deeply (and personally) involved in undesirable situations that most of us will never have to be exposed to because of the flood. Despite this, he carried on with the preparation and hosted the event. Consider also, this is the first event at this location and it was very much unlike anything else put on in Alberta (or Saskatchewan or Manitoba, etc. etc.).

We had a bunch of great guys with skill levels that covered the mid to upper end of the spectrum. This in itself lent very well to the networking and the commeraderie that you could see develop across the line. This is what I believe Hungry and Buckaroo were intending - not to put on an "elitist" type of shoot, but rather a preparatory session to expose shooters to the type of matches that are available in Canada with hopes of more matches starting somewhere west of Ontario. What better place to start? Incredible and beautiful location and all you Alberta guys with rigs more valuable than my old Dodge;) (sorry about the saliva on some of your equipment)!

Would I have liked greater distances? You bet. Would I have liked to have done a lot more one-on-one with Hungry and the more skilled individuals there? Of course! But I do understand that being the first clinic of this kind (that I know of) and the pre-cursive circumstances, I felt more than privellaged to be there.

My grandfather always used to tell me, "boy, you only ever get out of something, what you put into it." Personally, I took a boat load home in ol' Dodgey.....

Rooster
 
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Sounds like a good go and don't judge it too harshly. There will be issues the first time anything is run and sometimes #### happens.

I would have loved to been there, but could not make it. I cant wait until next year to attend or if the stars align host this.

Shawn
 
Thanks to buckaroo and hungry. Lord knows things changed and we didn't get to do all the things planned, but being as what happened with the flood and these were all backup ranges thrown together at the last second, I had a good time and thank you for your commitment. As said it would have been easy to just cancel but you guys tried and hopefully it has started something that we can grow. You can't control rain and you can't control a river. No we didn't get to do 1000, and some stuff got cut short, but it could have not existed at all. I for one will be trying to help out buck to set up some new ranges, Targets and stops. The fact that he is willing to put his land out there is just awesome.
 
44bear said:
A big thanks to Buckaroo for a place to hold the course. Now my thoughts on the course. Day one 5 steel plates set about 100m apart out to 500m, with a hill in the middle so day one had a max distance of 248m shooting at 2 foot by 4foot steel plates, 24 shooters shooting the same plate no paint left on target after a very short time, no precision required ! Part way through the day the range was closed for a half hour and we were all told to get a tape and start measuring stuff windows doors tires etc,nothing was ever said about how to use this info, another half hour wasted. Long lunch. After lunch more short range crap like two shooters three targets ten seconds max to shoot them, precision shooting with a target rifle on a bi pod? More like cowboy action shooting only i think the cowboys use smaller targets! Day two plates set out across the river at 235m 375m 515m 600m same BIG 2 by4 foot plates,shooting point was to be from the top on a 150 foot cliff across the river to see the first target you had to have your bi pod right on the edge with the barrel hanging over the edge of a unstable gravel and sand cliff 150 foot drop with maybe one bounce into the High wood river! After about 20 min of discussion they were convinced to move the firing line to a more stable area, more time wasted! Shot the the first three targets before lunch not much fun and not a lot of precision required. Looong lunch. After lunch finally shooting 600m,it would have been fun shooting a 12'' gong but that big fricking sheet of steel not much fun! 2:30 range closed course over. Yes I'm a little bitter,long range not available,precision not required, it might have been an ok course to shoot with an SKS.
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I feel the exact same way. I was hoping for more teaching and tips and tricks to be passed along.
The targets if placed that close needed to be way smaller. It seemed like it was a last minute thing with target placement.
Very poorly layed out area. The shooting time seemed like it was just a free for all. I could have learned almost the same amount going out to the woods and shooting. How ever it was a beautiful spot and met some great people that was the best part of it.
 
Any day outside meeting fellow gunnutz and pulling the trigger regardless of the size of the target is better then a great day at work! I appreciated the opportunity to meet you folks and in fact found many skills to practice, breathing, trigger control, wind reading, mirage reading, etc. It may not have been perfect but life seldom is. Negative comments are easily typed out behind the comfort of your screen, seldom are they offered face to face. Thats a shame.
 
My apologies for the quality of the pictures guys - I was just trying to capture a few representative shots.

Upstream view from our elevated position for the second day of PR. Notice some of the effect of the flood on the south bank.


A shot of the beautiful downrange setting. More after-flood effect seen at the bottom of the picture.


Some of the guys doing position prep at the beginning of day two.


Conditions encountered on day two. Huge thanks to my teammate Striker66 for bringing the tarp! He saved my soggy a$$!!!


Shot at ~660 yards. For those wanting smaller targets, I sure don't see many headshots marked on that plate! And the dirt / grass behind it - well, let's just say that Buckaroo can plant some potatoes now with out a whole lot of physical effort!:evil:


Unfortunately on day two, we didn't get to the bowling pin challenge. This was to be our 'coup de gras'. As you can see in the top right of picture 2, access to the range area is pretty steep. Because of the rain that we got, range control would have been able to get down but wouldn't have been able to get back out. Next year, I'll bring my quad (just in case;)) and I'll be the bowling pin b*tch!

Rooster
 
Very nice pic's Rooster! It really was an amazing piece of property and unfortunately due to circumstances beyond control the clinics potential was never fully realized.
Hopefully some of the suggestions and critisisms aren't taken personally but rather constructively and we can make next year better.

Thanks to Hungry and Buckaroo for their time and effort.
 
Hungry and Buckaroo

Thanks for the 3 days of shooting. Met a bunch of good people and put some lead in the air. It's all good and can only get better next year.

T.J.
 
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Shot at ~660 yards. For those wanting smaller targets, I sure don't see many headshots marked on that plate! And the dirt / grass behind it - well, let's just say that Buckaroo can plant some potatoes now with out a whole lot of physical effort!:evil:


Rooster
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Actually Clint and Travis(among others) were nailing the head of that 600m target at will, maybe it was the left side of the line plowing dirt behind the target.:stirthepot2:
 
Ha ha! Hey, don't git your knickers in a bunch now... I'll have you know that with my farming background, I was only trying to help a brother out. Effective soil aeration is an oft-overlooked aspect of modern agriculture! And the guys beside me were shooting petals off the flowers around the target, playing 'she loves me, she loves me not...';)

Despite the way things went versus the way some of us think things should have gone, I think we all had fun, didn't we? Just more to look forward to next year. Personally, I can't wait (that soil needs help, boy!).

Rooster
 
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