Hunting in Sask is gonna cost more in 2017

If an additional $100 is too high a burden for 7 hunting and 1 fishing license then a person should really should stop hunting/fishing and look for a better or a second job. Lets not pretend $100 is going to buy a person a new truck, I can't go out for a nice dinner with my wife for less the $100...

This, I used to live in Quebec, a moose tag was 60$ and you needed to partner up with 1-3 other hunters for one moose, my WT tag was about the same price, not including the 8$ fee to register your big game kills, including wild turkey... I can hunt three times more here for a fraction of the price, as long as some of that money goes back into wildlife it's fine by me. Oh and almost forgot about the 8$ draw application per person per animal.
 
Still cheap at twice the price. If you are hunting for meat see how far your license fees would go at the grocery store. If you are trophy hunting it's disposable income anyway.
 
Being from Manitoba I would like to be able to come hunt in Saskatchewan. Did for many years until they imposed the draw for non resident Canadians. Our group of guys dropped a lot of money in small towns over the years. I know lots of hotel owners will miss us staying in their hotel for a week. I always thought the fee for non resident Canadian was reasonable. Shoot I'd pay $50 more if I could go every year like we used to. I really miss hunting Saskatchewan and will continue to apply in the draw. Haven't got drawn in 4 years. Maybe this year. As was said earlier I don't think you should wish the NDP back. Being from Manitoba I have a fresh memory of what they did here.
 
Years ago our property taxes included tacking yer chit to the dump..............no cost to unload.
Then taxes went up and so did everything else.
Then they came in with these fancy schmancy garbage/recycling bins and added a portfolio
to the cost of owning a home in the fine city.
Then shortly there after came the crap unloaded out in the bush.

Careful what you think is okay for increases as for every up there is a down.

JMHO


Most people don't get the whole picture....evident in this thread.
 
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Well if you have so much money and $100 means nothing how about give you my email address and you can send me $100 via EMT to cover the extra cost of my licences.....I mean its just $100 right....its nothing.

In my case I would get nothing if I gave you $100, so that wouldn't be too smart. But your line of thought is welcomed by the typical socialist. ;)
 
I am not sure why everyone continually blames the government that is in power , no matter who is serving.

You must sit down and think long and hard about WHERE and to WHO current money is going and WHY it is going there.

We are entering a recession , this is what happens when a recession hits, no political leader can stop it or foresee its full wrath.

I am not taking sides but I will make a few key points for all to consider.

What did it cost to have 800 workers protest in front of legislature?They all had holidays that day?

-Hunting and fishing licenses have NOT increased in price relative to inflation.It is very inexpensive to hunt in relation to many other hobbies, also hobbies are elective, nobody is forcing you, you chose knowing there are expenses.

-Spending has greatly declined in the province as a result of layoffs and cut backs in other provinces as well, many of those workers aren't spending here like they used to(tax generation) as well as some have had to take cuts within province, again, not spending like they used to.Much of this lost revenue was from people employed in the private sector generating non tax based revenue.

-The cost of public sector unionized jobs. What do all those benefits and pension plans and reimbursements actually cost? I spoke with a large private company manager and estimates the COST on average , per employee is $120 to $150/hr.(these are average paying jobs 40-60K/yr)This is with only a fraction of benefits that public sector workers receive.
-Paid sick days.Most Private sector jobs don't have this.

-The ABUSE of paid sick time - DO NOT deny this happens , we all know it does.One employee calls in sick and still gets their wage AND benefits while not at work.The person who comes in makes typically time and one half PLUS benefits maybe even paid meals if over a certain length.So this has COST an additional 150% more than original.Now if that job costs $100/hr(very low but giving the benefit of the doubt here for easy math) to fill that shift just cost $3000.00 if it was a 12/hr shift.
-The ABUSE happens when this is a staged sickness so that someone can get some OT , they trade off every so often so each person benefits.

-The province has lost major revenue generated through taxation of resources and property as well as personal income tax with the closure of mining and oil industry businesses and employees.How is private company closure the premiers responsibility?

-Go to any government run facility and see the wasteful tactics of any job, how many employees it actually takes to do a job, now go to the private sector and compare equivalent work and the man power involved and the cost of manpower.I can get into much greater detail on this.

-Everybody wants their raise as per the collective agreement every year and without basing it on performance or attendance , only because "it says in here" type justification, and, they get that raise every year without remembering where it comes from.The very tax they pay goes DIRECTLY to their wages AND benefit packages.

-We have an aging infrastructure system that YOU want up to snuff, costs money
-We have a medical system where YOU want the best care, costs money
This list goes on.

The government announced many month ago about wage and salary freezes and cut backs in legislature , people forget that, they took the hit first.

Ask yourself this...

What does it cost McDonalds to have a janitor?

What does it cost the Sask Gov't to have a janitor?

Do I like paying more? Of course not , BUT there are people working at the SERM offices, in the field, university studies , SERM studies and analysis to ensure there is fish and game to harvest, oh wait...... fish filleting stations at the lakes , boat launches , docks.Need I go on? I have no problem paying these increases.

This is just the tip of the iceberg , now like I said sit back and really think WHERE/WHO it comes from and WHERE/WHO it goes to and WHY.Those numbers just don't magically appear on paychecks and your teeth really don't get fixed by a fairy , and those hard hats and work gloves weren't just gifts.

A little FYI , the private sector has been cutting costs and employees for some time now and some are just plain out of work.I don't see them complaining near as much.
 
Oils down, potash is down, uranium down. That makes a huge difference in the taxes we get. Not the governments fault and I think a few bucks more for a tag is no big deal. When was the last time that increased anyway. Lots of oil patch workers took huge pay cuts and job losses. It's not unreasonable for the public sector to take a 3.5% pay cut. My wife is a teacher also so it does affect me. A pay cut is a lot better than getting laid off. Everyone needs to help out but it seems unions just beg for more more more.
 
Oh and none of that extra revenue is going to fish and game.....its going into our 2 Billion dollar plus debt that so kindly got our province in since he took power.

I have zero issue with rate increases that go directly into wildlife and habitat investments,,but when none of that extra cash goes near those and they cut CO's time and pay in the field,,I have an issue with that and so should any other sportsman in Sask.
The debt was caused from wall and the Sask party fixing the years and years of NDP trimming. Terrible roads that looked like they belonged in Beruit or modern day Syria. All the hospital shut downs and medical back logs. We are still making uo for lost time. Then the financial markets tightened up, potash prices drooped cause of Russian lowballing, over production and china's economic problems, oil prices dropped cause if the glut in the market, and OPEC not slowing production. Uranium hit cause of Fukushima. But it's all walls fault. You sound like a closet Saskatchewan Ndp'r posing as a Saskatchewan resident.......
 
Oils down, potash is down, uranium down. That makes a huge difference in the taxes we get. Not the governments fault and I think a few bucks more for a tag is no big deal. When was the last time that increased anyway. Lots of oil patch workers took huge pay cuts and job losses. It's not unreasonable for the public sector to take a 3.5% pay cut. My wife is a teacher also so it does affect me. A pay cut is a lot better than getting laid off. Everyone needs to help out but it seems unions just beg for more more more.

Excellent Post! If more of Saskatchewan folk actually looked at life realistically there would be o whole. He'll of a lot less. #####ing
 
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Hopefully you arent a parent with children in the sask education system. Wait til you see the cuts
And decrease in spending on resources and the facilities.

If i am lucky i get a pay decrease and 9 un paid days off
If i am unlucky no job

Its not just about the increase in the hunting fees for some of us

And without the Sask party we would not have had the sustained boom the last 10 years. Unless your a unionized, government worker, things would been great.... I personally hope we never see the NDP again.... U want them back move to Alberta with the rear of your former Sask friends who voted those A$$HATS IN.
 
Yeah, we need the dippers back like we need hemerroids. We were living pretty high off the hog after the dippers were flushed out. Now the markets are flat for some of our products, so common sense tells us we have to notch it back. I don't mind the increase in fees. To blame the Sask Party is a waste of time.
 
Scottr thanks for posting. I don't like fee increases any more than you especially when most of the money isn't going back into wildlife or conservation. In fact there is no increase in quantity or quality of game in Saskatchewan for the increase. I would gladly pay more to hunt hunt for better opportunities eg., more elk, moose, deer & older more mature animals, however we have depleted our wildlife reserves so low that even a "free" hunting license isn't very enticing to me given the poor management of our wildlife resources. As far as I'm concerned, the average guy is getting off pretty cheap when it comes to hunting and fees should be a lot higher to really generate any meaningful amounts of money that could be effectively used to improve quality and quantity of our wildlife. So how much does it cost?

2016 Saskatchewan Hunting License Fees (for residents)
Wildlife Habitat Certificate (required by all).............$10.79
Game birds (grouse & partridge)...........................$10.79
Migratory bird permit (geese/ducks/sandhills..........$17.85
Youth game (deer and game birds combined)..........$8.83
White tailed deer (any deer)..................................$30.38
White tail antlerless..............................................$19.62
Elk general (North zones)......................................$32.38
Elk draw (farmland zones).....................................$53.97
Moose general (north zones)..................................$32.38
Moose draw (farmland zones)................................$53.97
Mule deer archery (any deer).................................$37.29
Mule deer draw.....................................................$37.29
Mule deer draw antlerless......................................$19.62
Mule deer draw antlerless 2nd deer.........................$19.62
Pronghorn antelope draw.......................................$37.29
Barren ground caribou (residents of zone 76 only).....$21.59
Black bear............................................................$16.68
Fur license (south)................................................$30
Fur license (north).................................................$10
Fishing license.......................................................$29.44

So for $239.89 ($217.98 + 10% tax (5%pst + 5%gst) = $239.89 a Saskatchewan resident can shoot game birds, migratory birds, white tailed deer, elk and moose in the north zone, one black bear and fish. Seems pretty cheap to me. Most people don't even bother getting the fur license portion and just shoot coyotes, foxes, beaver, muskrat, squirrels, raccoons, skunks, porcupines or what ever else moves as they please. In my opinion these guys are the worst and and I consider them poachers and will not hesitate to turn them in when I see this behaviour. They shoot what they want with little regard for our resources and detract from the economic viability of trapping.

Currently it costs me between $4,000-$6,000 per year in Saskatchewan to shoot a mature whitetailed deer on public land. When I hunt my own land which I purchased for hunting and keep natural, I spend considerably more than $6k per year to hunt and that's just to shoot a deer and maybe some grouse. And usually I don't even pull a trigger I just enjoy watching my wildlife live and grow old.
 
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Oils down, potash is down, uranium down. That makes a huge difference in the taxes we get. Not the governments fault and I think a few bucks more for a tag is no big deal. When was the last time that increased anyway. Lots of oil patch workers took huge pay cuts and job losses. It's not unreasonable for the public sector to take a 3.5% pay cut. My wife is a teacher also so it does affect me. A pay cut is a lot better than getting laid off. Everyone needs to help out but it seems unions just beg for more more more.

Agreed. I was given a 15% pay cut then had my rotation changed from 10 on 4 off to 7 & 7. My gross per month is now what my take home used to be but you adapt and if that means applying for one species to hunt instead of multiple then thats how it is. You learn to live and play within your means.
 
I would gladly pay a bit more to hunt, rather than deal with the mess that we have in Alberta. I would gladly trade governments with Saskatchewan , if that was possible.
 
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Well if you have so much money and $100 means nothing how about give you my email address and you can send me $100 via EMT to cover the extra cost of my licences.....I mean its just $100 right....its nothing.

Sounds to me like you need to stop asking for handouts and work more or find a better paying job.

Licensing fees here are pretty darn cheap if you ask me.
Things I have had to pay more for since I started hunting:
Fuel, food, housing, electricity, heating, water, property tax, and anything else I buy. Meanwhile hunting fees have been the same for years. In my opinion it is about time they went up. CO's cost money, keeping track of populations cost money. Everything cost money and it has to come from someplace. If $100 puts you out of the game sounds like you need to take up a cheaper hobby maybe needle point would be up your ally. Thread is cheap.


I am not sure why everyone continually blames the government that is in power , no matter who is serving.

You must sit down and think long and hard about WHERE and to WHO current money is going and WHY it is going there.

We are entering a recession , this is what happens when a recession hits, no political leader can stop it or foresee its full wrath.

I am not taking sides but I will make a few key points for all to consider.

What did it cost to have 800 workers protest in front of legislature?They all had holidays that day?

-Hunting and fishing licenses have NOT increased in price relative to inflation.It is very inexpensive to hunt in relation to many other hobbies, also hobbies are elective, nobody is forcing you, you chose knowing there are expenses.

-Spending has greatly declined in the province as a result of layoffs and cut backs in other provinces as well, many of those workers aren't spending here like they used to(tax generation) as well as some have had to take cuts within province, again, not spending like they used to.Much of this lost revenue was from people employed in the private sector generating non tax based revenue.

-The cost of public sector unionized jobs. What do all those benefits and pension plans and reimbursements actually cost? I spoke with a large private company manager and estimates the COST on average , per employee is $120 to $150/hr.(these are average paying jobs 40-60K/yr)This is with only a fraction of benefits that public sector workers receive.
-Paid sick days.Most Private sector jobs don't have this.

-The ABUSE of paid sick time - DO NOT deny this happens , we all know it does.One employee calls in sick and still gets their wage AND benefits while not at work.The person who comes in makes typically time and one half PLUS benefits maybe even paid meals if over a certain length.So this has COST an additional 150% more than original.Now if that job costs $100/hr(very low but giving the benefit of the doubt here for easy math) to fill that shift just cost $3000.00 if it was a 12/hr shift.
-The ABUSE happens when this is a staged sickness so that someone can get some OT , they trade off every so often so each person benefits.

-The province has lost major revenue generated through taxation of resources and property as well as personal income tax with the closure of mining and oil industry businesses and employees.How is private company closure the premiers responsibility?

-Go to any government run facility and see the wasteful tactics of any job, how many employees it actually takes to do a job, now go to the private sector and compare equivalent work and the man power involved and the cost of manpower.I can get into much greater detail on this.

-Everybody wants their raise as per the collective agreement every year and without basing it on performance or attendance , only because "it says in here" type justification, and, they get that raise every year without remembering where it comes from.The very tax they pay goes DIRECTLY to their wages AND benefit packages.

-We have an aging infrastructure system that YOU want up to snuff, costs money
-We have a medical system where YOU want the best care, costs money
This list goes on.

The government announced many month ago about wage and salary freezes and cut backs in legislature , people forget that, they took the hit first.

Ask yourself this...

What does it cost McDonalds to have a janitor?

What does it cost the Sask Gov't to have a janitor?

Do I like paying more? Of course not , BUT there are people working at the SERM offices, in the field, university studies , SERM studies and analysis to ensure there is fish and game to harvest, oh wait...... fish filleting stations at the lakes , boat launches , docks.Need I go on? I have no problem paying these increases.

This is just the tip of the iceberg , now like I said sit back and really think WHERE/WHO it comes from and WHERE/WHO it goes to and WHY.Those numbers just don't magically appear on paychecks and your teeth really don't get fixed by a fairy , and those hard hats and work gloves weren't just gifts.

A little FYI , the private sector has been cutting costs and employees for some time now and some are just plain out of work.I don't see them complaining near as much.


Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
Most people don't even bother getting the fur license portion and just shoot coyotes, foxes, beaver, muskrat, squirrels, raccoons, skunks, porcupines or what ever else moves as they please. In my opinion these guys are the worst and and I consider them poachers and will not hesitate to turn them in when I see this behaviour. They shoot what they want with little regard for our resources and detract from the economic viability of trapping.


Does the warden laugh at you when you "report" them? If he can keep a straight face, don't play poker against him.:p Just about everything on your list is considered a pest, with no license, closed season or limit. Beaver have a bounty on them in the three RMs I still own land in.
 
Licences are still cheaper than many other places for hunting opportunities in a place second to none. If you don't like the inevitable price jump, stay home and don't buy a license.
 
Well I haven't been in the province for too long, but I do like what I see. I prefer the lower taxes on everything compared to ON, the whole province seems alot less "regulated" for instance I don't need a license to shoot coyotes? I hope the NDP doesn't get in the future. Pay cuts hurt, no matter who takes them, the day's off? I believe that when Ray did that in ON most of the PS actually didn't mind?
The "bottom line" is that any GOV can't manage money regardless!!!
 
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