hunting with 7.62 X 39

Hi-Standard said:
Possibly with equal weight bullets, but how often do you use 170gr bullets in your SKS?

Energy (ft-lbs)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
Remington® Express® 170 SP CL 1827 1355 989 720 535 425
Remington® Express® 125 PSP 1552 1180 882 652 483 370
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I've reloaded 165's in my SKS and they worked great!
 
Hi-Standard said:
Possibly with equal weight bullets, but how often do you use 170gr bullets in your SKS?
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And why would you need 170 grain 30-cal bullets to kill a deer? And yes, you can reload 165/170/180 grain bullets in a 7.62x39, and yes, the pointy-tipped thing vs the flat-nose bullet thing still means my original statement holds true.
 
brotherjack said:
And why would you need 170 grain 30-cal bullets to kill a deer? And yes, you can reload 165/170/180 grain bullets in a 7.62x39, and yes, the pointy-tipped thing vs the flat-nose bullet thing still means my original statement holds true.
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Yes, I hear what you are saying, as I've shot an abundance of 160 gr cast loads out of my SKS, but the vast majority of people shoot store bought 123-125 jacketed soft point for hunting. But the point I'm making is that ballistically, 7.62X39 is not equal to 30-30 Winchester. And if you use a "pointy-tipped"(leverevolution) bullet in a 30-30, then you far outshine a 7.62X39. I'm not critisizing 7.62 Russian, I love the stuff, It's a damn fine round, but it ain't no 30-30 ballistically. And people please read the rest of the thread before making comments. I never once said that you need a 170 gr bullet to kill a deer. Other posters have stated that a 7.62 Russian exits the muzzle at the same velocity as a 303 British, (slight difference between 123gr and 180gr), and others are comparing velocity of the 7.62 to the 30-30, I'm mearly stating that the 30-30 hunting round is usually 170gr as compared to the russian at 123gr.
 
Hi-Standard said:
One of the previous posters likened the 7.62X39 to a 303 Britist due to the .311" bullets. I mearly pointed out the fact that while a deer killer the SKS or any other rifle chambered in 7.62X39 Russian may be it is not a 30-30 Winchester nor a 303 British.
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That makes sense, the .311 diameter part. It's a weird thing to compare though, look at .308 diameter, you have such a range of 30cal bullet weights that are fired from so many different guns. I believe you can get them in 125-250 grain and fire them out of:

30-30
.308 norma magnum
.308 winchester commercial
30-06
300 winmag
300wsm

This would be like me comparing a 30-30 to a 30-06, totally different class of ballistics with the same bullet diameter, so I agree with you 100%.
 
MUDFLAPPER said:
Yeah the 7.62x39 and the 30-30 are very similar at 100 yards, who brought .303 british into this?
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Well, given you can put .311" through both, a list from speer

comparing a .311" 125gn Spitz
With 30.0Cgn of AA2230 a Mzl Vel of 2308 for the x39 test rifle had a 22" barrel

with 39.0gn of AA2230 a mzl Vel of 2602 for the .303 test rifle had a 25.25" barrel

So considering, the difference of 9gr of powder and 3.25" of barrel I'd say they are comparable. I haven't loaded any for the SKS the wife owns, but I will be building a load for it this winter.

303
 
I took delivery today of one of those Nornico Bushmaster 7.62x39 rifles. I am impressed.

Excellent trigger. Two stage with a light crisp let off. I will put a 20X target scope on it and test it with some milsurp and some handloads, before I bed the action.

Marstar has them at $279.

Considering that a trigger costs $50 to $150

An action starts at $500

A barrel costs $400

Chambering and fitting costs $200

And a stock cost $100 and up...

This is a real bargin. If it does not shoot, very well, i will pick up a scrp 6mm PPC becng barrel, set the chamber back 2" and and have a 6PPC sporter. (6 PPC and 7.62x30 have the same bolt face).

will post a review shortly.
 
survivalofthefittest said:
i was just in crown land around hinton with my cz858, it felt nice to have it since there were multiple cougar sightings in the area (not the kind that buy you drinks all night) i was walking through dense muskeg with it and the banana clip is not an issue, even with the stock sling around my neck it was very comfortable and made me feel a little more at ease.. we ended up meeting with some old timers, when they saw the 7.62X39mm ammo, they said that some of their buds grind down the end of the FMJ rounds so that they either tumble or expand better. shooting fmj through an animal unless you can make an excellent shot under the sudden stress and terror of an attack is likely doing to piss it off even more as it will pass right through it. in the crates sometimes you come across hollow point rounds but has anyone heard of this sort of bullet modification?
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I have modified some ammo like that. The Czech rounds are steel core with a lead tip. I shaved down the tip until i got to the lead and then carved out the lead. It turned into quite a nice little hollow point round. I shot it out of my 858 at a mellon and well... the mellon wasnt a mellon anymore.

Its great because you can change the amount of lead you want to take out to make the hollowpoint. Problem is.. take too much and you are going to have feeding problems and if you take to little... well then your back to where you started
 
Dmitri said:
me hunting with 7.62 x39 .... works fine..
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You should try to get that scope a little higher...:D
 
hugehodge83 said:
I have modified some ammo like that. The Czech rounds are steel core with a lead tip. I shaved down the tip until i got to the lead and then carved out the lead. It turned into quite a nice little hollow point round. I shot it out of my 858 at a mellon and well... the mellon wasnt a mellon anymore.

Its great because you can change the amount of lead you want to take out to make the hollowpoint. Problem is.. take too much and you are going to have feeding problems and if you take to little... well then your back to where you started
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I have wondered about this as well. Do you find these funtion in an SKS well?
I have been reluctant to try as I have not wanted to have the jacket strip off in the barrel. Is there any danger of that?

I saw in another forum that someone suggested flipping the bullet around to have the flat back end with lead exposed exiting the barrel first.
 
From what I have seen, the PRVI 123 grain soft points are loaded quite warm and drop deer as good as anything. I shot a nice buck last year with them out of my CZ858 at about 90 yards. DOA. Complete pass through with nice wound channel.
 
saskcop said:
From what I have seen, the PRVI 123 grain soft points are loaded quite warm and drop deer as good as anything. I shot a nice buck last year with them out of my CZ858 at about 90 yards. DOA. Complete pass through with nice wound channel.
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I got a few boxes of the PRVI stuff. Maybe I should save them for hunting. :)
 
This conversation again? I shoot whitetail does with my SKS. It drops them with any good shot. For bigger animals I use a bigger gun, not cuz I can't place my shot, but its under powered for anything bigger than a doe at close range or longer than 125 yards.
 
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