I hate magnums becasue:

[Claven2]

I feel pretty good about my .300 H&H Magnum. No arguements here

If anyone doesn't like it, they can go piss up a rope

 

[9mikemike]

I pack a magnum... As said above though I don't call it a magnum I just call it a 7mil

 

[CH_Tiger_14]

The 8mm-06(325-06) has been around since the 40's and by all acounts is an excellent round.

There is lots of reloading data for it.

Thanx for the info. Maybe I'll look into something like that. I always liked unique stuff.

How much is it to re-bbl a Win M70 anyways?

 

[rdelliott]

Why don't I like magnums?

Aside from the fact that they're marketed as being "Magnums", and all the hype, controversy, flaming, bashing, weenie-wagging, and so forth that this entails, not much. I'm sure some of them are excellent cartridges and serve their owners well.

Next time I go rifle shopping, I'm going to be looking at what I need the rifle for first, then what rifle suits that purpose and turns my crank, what rounds it's available in, the ballistics data for each round, cost and availability of each round, and probably go for something in .308. But if my research steers me towards something labelled "magnum", I'm not going to let something as trivial as what the marketeers call it get in my way .

 

[Jamie Hunt]

Here are the stats from the remington site/
This is compareing a 30-06, 300 WIN mag and a 300 RUM. All useing 180 Grain Scirocco.
PRSC3006B Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 Swift™ Scirocco™ Bonded 9 1/2 0.500
PRSC300WB Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 Swift™ Scirocco™ Bonded 9 1/2 M 0.507
PR300UM3 Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 Swift™ Scirocco™ Bonded 9 1/2 M 0.500


Velocity (ft/sec)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 2700 2522 2351 2186 2028 1878
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 2960 2274 2595 2424 2259 2100
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 3250 3048 2856 2672 2495 2325


Energy (ft-lbs)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 2913 2542 2208 1910 1644 1409
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 3501 3075 2692 2348 2039 1762
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 4221 3714 3260 2853 2487 2160


Short-Range Trajectory
Cartridge Type Bullet 50 100 150 200 250 300
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 0.0 zero -1.3 -4.0 -8.3 -14.2
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 0.1 0.6 zero -1.8 -4.9 -9.4
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 0.0 0.4 zero -1.4 -3.9 -7.5


Long-Range Trajectory
Cartridge Type Bullet 100 150 200 250 300 400 500
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 2.0 1.7 zero -3.3 -8.3 -23.9 -47.9
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 1.5 1.4 zero -2.6 -6.7 -19.3 -38.7
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 2.0 2.3 1.7 zero -2.8 -12.3 -27.3

As you can see the 300 Rum is a Big step up from the 30-06.

Jamie