IDPA/CDPA Whinning and #####ing
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bclinehand
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MI6 said:I heard that too. Now, that's what I call "promoting the sport".
I guess It doesn't really matter... after all, your training is free only to those you choose.
That's awesome... you pay $100 and have the opportunity NOT to take the FREE training and be barred from the matches as well.
Now there's a guy with a personal grudge 
Rudy H said:Hey, get out of here. Can't you read
Now that the thread seems to be running out of steam over the various disciplines maybe we should start to complain about the match fees for the various shoots?
Just shot the Windsor Action Pistol IDPA match held today at the Trails End Range, 100+ rounds, 8 stages, 2 side shotgun matches, 24 -28 shooters and all for a $10 match fee. Same fees as charged by Lambton Sportsmans Club and KCCC for their IDPA matches. Beautiful day, Absolutely great time had by all.
Next LSC - IDPA match is this coming Sunday, June 17th at their range on Bickford Line, 10 minutes south of Sarnia. All are welcome. Match fee is $10, $5 more if you want to shoot a second gun, $5 more if you want to eat their food.
MI6 said:Now, that's an honest, candid and mature answer.
Your feeble attempt at trying to place yourself on some sort of 'moral high ground' is laughable; particularly after your citing of some unsubstantiated 'gossip' and your slanderous innuendo. Your behavior is more suited to a junior high schoolyard.
Unless you can provide some information on who was 'barred' and by whom, and/or other relevent facts, I suggest you STFU.
maxpig
Nobody got barred. Dragoon runs an IDPA club in Calgary and represents IDPA Canada in Alberta and he hasn't banned anybody. That kind of post made by the individuals ought to warrant a holiday out of here.
JMJ sounds like you had a great time. Gives me some ideas for our club. We charge $5. per shoot but then again we have three different shoots a month so the cost does add up. LOL
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Bob
Nobody got barred. Dragoon runs an IDPA club in Calgary and represents IDPA Canada in Alberta and he hasn't banned anybody. That kind of post made by the individuals ought to warrant a holiday out of here.
JMJ sounds like you had a great time. Gives me some ideas for our club. We charge $5. per shoot but then again we have three different shoots a month so the cost does add up. LOL
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Bob
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No, sorry I should make that clear. Terrace Rod & Gun Club owns the range. The fees we charge goes to the running of the club which includes tape, targets and props along with taxes etc. Membership fees to join the TR&GC are $65/ p.a. IDPA membership of course is extra.
Go here to see the various disciplines we shoot. There is a video there of our club as well.
http://www.rodandgun.net/
Match fees have to cover all costs associated with the match including range rental, if any. Folks have to remember that when comparing some of the match costs mentioned on this thread. What we gain in match fees up here we spend on gas going to matches at other clubs....it's 15 hours by car to Vancouver!
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Bob
Go here to see the various disciplines we shoot. There is a video there of our club as well.
http://www.rodandgun.net/
Match fees have to cover all costs associated with the match including range rental, if any. Folks have to remember that when comparing some of the match costs mentioned on this thread. What we gain in match fees up here we spend on gas going to matches at other clubs....it's 15 hours by car to Vancouver!
Take Care
Bob
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PrairieMedic
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So you need to be a Terrace Rod & Gun Member to shoot your events? Not that this would be abnormal, just trying to get a feeling of operations. We're bypassing that requirement and paying the range rental fee, since over half of the shooters are not members of our facility.
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PrairieMedic
Terrace Rod & Gun Club is a not for profit members only rod and gun club. If you live in or around Terrace you must be a member to shoot at the range or pay a $5.00 day pass. To shoot a club sponsored event such as IDPA or IPSC you must be a member of the club if you live in and around Terrace. Visitors from Pr. Rupert/Kitimat or Wiinipeg are welcome and just pay the event fee. So to when I go to Pr. Rupert to shoot IPSC club events.
An exception would be made for a local who comes out to see what all the noise is about and wants to try IDPA/IPSC/Trap Shooting etc. He would be expected to join the club thereafter if he wanted to continue.
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Bob
Terrace Rod & Gun Club is a not for profit members only rod and gun club. If you live in or around Terrace you must be a member to shoot at the range or pay a $5.00 day pass. To shoot a club sponsored event such as IDPA or IPSC you must be a member of the club if you live in and around Terrace. Visitors from Pr. Rupert/Kitimat or Wiinipeg are welcome and just pay the event fee. So to when I go to Pr. Rupert to shoot IPSC club events.
An exception would be made for a local who comes out to see what all the noise is about and wants to try IDPA/IPSC/Trap Shooting etc. He would be expected to join the club thereafter if he wanted to continue.
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Bob
Nope I don't know why you would assume we are with the NFA. Our members are covered under a plan from BC Wildlife. Our club purchases liability insurance which covers liability claims against the club. Guests shoot at their own risk. The $5.00 fee is a range rental fee and includes no insurance for them.
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Bob
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well if that isn't an interesting way of doing things.... just out of curiosity is the Terrace Rod & Gun Club the only Club in the area, or nicest??... if it is , then that policy really makes sense to me... get everyone who shoots in the area to become member and keep club strong... membership has it's privilegesCanuck44 said:
TR&GC is the only shooting range in Terrace. Take a look at our video to learn our history.
http://www.rodandgun.net/
Not sure why private "for profit" ranges would not encourage or even participate in the formation of IDPA/IPSC clubs as a way of increasing traffic to their ranges. Maybe their ranges are already fully utilized. Seems like a natural to me. Fees could become an issue and the economics may or may not be there.
As a former commercial banker I recognize that if it hasn't happened already there might be a financial reason for it not hapening. If the economic model works in the US it certainly should work here though nothing in life is certain. For community based not for profit operations it is a natural to increase participation.
My name has been put forward as a candidate to be a Certified IDPA Safety Officer Instructor. If it goes through it is my intention to make myself available to any club who requires safety officers trained in order to start and run IDPA Clubs and shoots.
Unless I win the Loto on Wednesday clubs will have to pay for my travel expenses only.
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Bob
http://www.rodandgun.net/
Not sure why private "for profit" ranges would not encourage or even participate in the formation of IDPA/IPSC clubs as a way of increasing traffic to their ranges. Maybe their ranges are already fully utilized. Seems like a natural to me. Fees could become an issue and the economics may or may not be there.
As a former commercial banker I recognize that if it hasn't happened already there might be a financial reason for it not hapening. If the economic model works in the US it certainly should work here though nothing in life is certain. For community based not for profit operations it is a natural to increase participation.
My name has been put forward as a candidate to be a Certified IDPA Safety Officer Instructor. If it goes through it is my intention to make myself available to any club who requires safety officers trained in order to start and run IDPA Clubs and shoots.
Unless I win the Loto on Wednesday clubs will have to pay for my travel expenses only.
Take Care
Bob
Canuck44 said:
We have always encouraged our membership to set up and regulate "leagues" as they see fit and do not charge or otherwise profit from the leagues as the participants are already members of TSE. We only asked for $50 from non-members participating in the training that was proposed to compensate us for the loss of revenue for shutting down a bay for a day and a half. If someone has a problem with that, they should take it up with us, not attack the poor guy trying to organize the event.
Currently we have an IPSC league and until recently we were on our way to having an actual IDPA league.
However, as demonstrated very clearly in this thread saga, the controllers of IDPA in some provinces (such as ours), have eagerly worked to orchestrate their own "kingdoms" based on certain agendas and as such, IDPA (the sport) and it’s Alberta coordinator, as it stands are not welcome in our facility until apologies for this mistreatment are made to certain people.
I’ve never seen such a display of short-sighted, myopic self centred game-manship as has been orchestrated here.
Let me be clear. In my view, IDPA first drew a line in the sand; they complained about our activities and then, asked us to join their game. Not the other way around: The Alberta coordinator never, not once, approached our facility to join IDPA. He, only, after a visit to observe one of our league nights, complained that our league was operating improperly and then we heard later, I’m assuming after the “official report” was sent, through the “National” rep, that we must join or immediately remove the IDPA logo from our website or else face the wrath of the legal beagles from HQ (my synopsis)…
Fair enough, we weren’t an IDPA sanctioned club and the logo is trademarked, so we did comply… However... Great way to mend fences and promote the sport, eh? It's not as though the IDPA Alberta Coordinator doesn't know who we are either; he used to work here, but now he has his own "shooting school" business running.... That leads to a number of interesting questions in itself, but we'll leave that alone for now.
Remember, this whole thread was started because one of our members wished to increase the proficiency in fellow shooters by bringing in an instructor for everyone’s benefit. His efforts were quickly distorted and this thread speaks the volumes for itself.
If IDPA Alberta was so interested in promoting the sport, why did the organizer, after actually inviting one of our members out to shoot, send him packing because “they had enough shooters”? After driving over an hour to get to the shoot, I don’t think you’ll be seeing him again, or any other shooters of whom this guy has contact with.
It’s sure nice to see that we haven’t forgotten how to eat our weak…
At least we here at TSE still know how to promote and bring in more new shooters into the Calgary shooting community then these few individuals can probably scare away!
Do I sound annoyed? Yes I am... These guys tried to do something good and all they got was #### on!
Just my 2 cents
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