IDPA Will it get you killed?

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chopper 1 said:
I am black badge IDPA and PPC etc., won matches - and a cqb instructor for the police and military, and yes my post is for real - there are members of this site who know me - I dont care if you dont believe it - read the content of the post - it is true thats what matters.
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Black Badge IDPA...I did not realize BB are required for IDPA:confused:,...AND you won some matches....Most impressive.:D

Carry on .....Carry on..nothing really matters....Freddy Mercury.:weird:
Anyone who knows you will likely straighten me out by PM'ing me.
Anyone?,...:confused:

I tend to doubt anyone who actually comes out and admits to events that would most likely be strictly for non-internet discussion. I am not allowed to discuss matters about work....just figured it would be the same for you.
 
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maurice said:
Black Badge IDPA...I did not realize BB are required for IDPA:confused:,...AND you won some matches....Most impressive.:D

Carry on .....Carry on..nothing really matters....Freddy Mercury.:weird:
Anyone who knows you will likely straighten me out by PM'ing me.
Anyone?,...:confused:

I tend to doubt anyone who actually comes out and admits to events that would most likely be strictly for non-internet discussion. I am not allowed to discuss matters about work....just figured it would be the same for you.
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IPSC qual is not required to shoot IDPA - Hopes that helps to dispel your:confused:
 
Madness said:
-being able to shoot accurately very fast is better then not being able to
-being able to reload( speed or tactical/retention) fast is better then not being able to
-being able to place a shot under pressure is better then not being able to
knowing how to accurately shoot while using cover is better then not being able to.
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And do not forget about proper holster use and concealment, right now alot of guys use OWB kydex holsters but some guys like stevo use a bladetech IWB holster and he islearning both concealment and the muscle memory to effectivly draw a gun.


While some leagues are stricter than others, we've never turned anyone away for wanting to shoot a pistol that doesn't 'qualify'. They won't be eligible for any awards but for some thats A-OK.
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My club also has the policy, everyone who shows up shoots.... either the gun they brought or if they did not bring one then we will loan them one.... and as to the "awards" it is sure a battle to win that $0.12 certificate.

IDPA is about fun, for The Dumb Counts out there that cannot get this then so be it... go be hardcaore and rambo and shyt and leave those of us that want to have fun alone :)

I firmly believe IDPA gives a person an advantagewhen it would come to a defensive type shooting.... but the question is always what will you do mentally.

I can tell you from experience when the shyt hits the fan the only thought that goes thru most peoples minds is what they can do to protect themselves, it takes people with bravery to sort themselves out and proceed in the proper manner.... if you do not have what it takes mentally then you will never have it physically to do either. (note, this was not a "shooting" matter but a burning drilling rig)

IDPA is the best thing since sliced bagels... it gets thousands of canadians off the couch and thinking in terms other then static range shooting from a standing gun in hand position.
 
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maurice said:
Black Badge IDPA...I did not realize BB are required for IDPA:confused:,...AND you won some matches....Most impressive.:D



I tend to doubt anyone who actually comes out and admits to events that would most likely be strictly for non-internet discussion. I am not allowed to discuss matters about work....just figured it would be the same for you.
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Ah - but I just retired - now I can tell the truth ! I tend to sense a degree of credibility - Do you have the coin ?
 
Quote "I am black badge IDPA "

Well you don't have a black Badge from IDPA because we don't have a Black Badge course. Wrong sport....sport.

Back to the latest issue of Combat Handguns and Bruce Willis and Hollywood Kool aid.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
"Your statement regarding the legal use of a firearm to defend yourself sounds like a pathetic excuse for validating ones failure to plan or train for violent life threatening events."

TDC returns with tactical keyboard in hand. Tell me is your computer painted camo?

" My personal beef with IDPA are the ignorant rules and classifications involved."

You seem to have a well defined view in your world about what is ignorant and what is not. Either that or you have a very small vocabulary. I suspect both.

Given you are not a member of IDPA, and from your comments likely never will be, why are you so concerned about either the rules or the classifications? If you want to start a thread setting out the reason why you hate the world then do so.

Those of us who shoot IDPA, enjoy it for what it is. We will contact you for your input when we feel it is necessary.

IDPA is a sport! What part of those four words do you not understand. Just like baseball, darts or basketball. It has rules. You want to play the game, you play by the rules. Life is not any simpler than that.

Take Care

Bob
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Bob,
Here is where you are wrong. IDPA started as a league designed for the armed citizen. A league where improving ones marksmanship while under stress could and would be an asset should one ever need to shoot defensively. Unfortunately, IDPA has become a 'Game' or 'sport' which of itself isn't an issue. The issue comes from the mindset or lack thereof from those who participate. Viewing your score as a number is fine for a sport. It is not acceptable nor does it hold any real value when viewed from a practical standpoint. A penalty for failing to neutralize a target can cost you a spot on the podium in a game. In the aspect of a defensive situation it could cost you your life. Due to the belief that IDPA is a game, not practical training many fail to recognize the importance of the IDPA foundation or the important factors involved with defensive use of firearms. Calibre, make, model, action style, sights, magazine capacity, division/class are irrelevant. Fast hits are what counts along with minimizing the risk of being shot. Either by using cover, shooting those intent on doing harm, vacating the area or a combination of the three. There are no rules in a gunfight, so why train/practice as if there were??

TDC
 
TDC said:
Bob,
Here is where you are wrong. IDPA started as a league designed for the armed citizen. A league where improving ones marksmanship while under stress could and would be an asset should one ever need to shoot defensively. Unfortunately, IDPA has become a 'Game' or 'sport' which of itself isn't an issue.
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Actually this is where you are wrong 100%.

IDPA was formed by Bill Wilson, John Sayle, #### Thomas, Ken Hackathorn, Larry Vickers, and Walt Rauch, in 1996. IDPA was created to redirect the conduct of sporting competitions that use defensive handguns.

IDPA is based on the a single founding principle - the learning and practice of defensive shooting in a SPORTING environment.

These are directly from Walt Rauch himself. It was ALWAYS meant to be a game/sport; yet some people, like yourself, seem to believe otherwise.
 
Tdc

Thanks Jarlath you have it completely right. I am not sure where these keyboard commandos get their ideas from but as you have pointed out "....they are looking for love in all the wrong places".

If you like shooting handguns in a friendly environment under safe controlled conditions then IDPA maybe a sport you will find of interest. For those of us who enjoy shooting our toys it is a great way to meet new friends and exchange ideas.

Take Care

Bob
 
TDC
IDPA and IPSC are just games .IDPA and IPSC teach at best some skills that are required in a gunfight but do not teach the essential skill to win the fight .Thought to remember

Are You the Weapon and your Gun is the Tool
Or are You the Tool and your Gun is the Weapon
no its not mine but thought it was applicable
 
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Canuck44 said:
Quote "I am black badge IDPA "

Well you don't have a black Badge from IDPA because we don't have a Black Badge course. Wrong sport....sport.

Back to the latest issue of Combat Handguns and Bruce Willis and Hollywood Kool aid.

Take Care

Bob
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Black badge , I.D.P.A. etc.
 
chopper 1 said:
Black badge , I.D.P.A. etc.
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So you have completed the Black Badge course which is prerequisite to participating in IPSC Canada sanctioned matches? or you mean you have a Badge that is black in color and you participate in IDPA and/or IPSC sanctioned matches??:confused:
 
LMAHO,..I just can't help myself!!

I am Black badge certified,..

AND,....Sega Genesis and Nintendo Duck Hunt trained.:shotgun: (there is an ATARI in my basement,..but that is strictly Black-Ops,...I don't like to talk about it):cool:
 
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