If you could only have one 30cal

track said:
To the contrary, Hoyt. I'm built like the 300 WSM with the velocity of the 30-30 Win.;) Five years ago I killed a nice mule deer buck with the 300 H&H, Ruger #1, and this past autumn (2018) I killed another nice mule deer buck,( 33" wide, 300 Lbs.) this time with another ###y, sleek, grovey cartridge.......the 240 Weatherby Mag. I guess those long sleek, ###y, grovey, cool cartridges work for me!:)
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I'm in love with your #1. That is a real beauty.
 
I've got mine.

Marlin 336A Deluxe in .30-30 Ackley Improved.

I will say that after avoiding them for 30-odd years, in the last couple years I have really come to appreciate my Rem 700 BDL in .30-06.
 
Pre '64 Model 70 Winchester in .30-06 for me, please.

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Here's a picture of a target from 2002, it's from my schultz&larsen 308 norma mag. This was a hot loading, 76gr of IMR4831 with hornady 165 gr btsp, I believe the velocity was 3250 fps. The rifle has been a safe queen for many years now, my interest has changed to lighter rifles. The first group was the one on the right, 3 shots, I then adjusted the scope over a bit and shot the 2nd 3 shot group. I haven't been able to post pics since photo bucket so this is part of the reason I'm posting this just to see if it works, lol
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Pete; This is what I have come to expect from a 308 Norma Magnum.
That is probably why I have 4 rifles so chambered. Every one on them
will shoot very tiny groups with loads they like. My latest, a Benchmark
barrelled Commercial Mauser with a 1-9" twist just loves 200 grain pills
Either the 200 Accubond or the 200 Partition shoot 5/8 moa at 3000 fps.
Dave.
 
Eagleye said:
Pete; This is what I have come to expect from a 308 Norma Magnum.
That is probably why I have 4 rifles so chambered. Every one on them
will shoot very tiny groups with loads they like. My latest, a Benchmark
barrelled Commercial Mauser with a 1-9" twist just loves 200 grain pills
Either the 200 Accubond or the 200 Partition shoot 5/8 moa at 3000 fps.
Dave.
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It's an excellent cartridge, I've enjoyed your posts on the 308 Norma over the years. :)
 
Londonshooter said:
Guess I'm a ####. Have an heirloom model 1893 that I will never sell but no longer hunt with it.
Carried a Win 94 for several years and came to realize that it was unsafe design most pointedly when a neighboring camp member had accidental discharge on unloading right in front of me. So the crossbolt safety allows you to cycle on half-####? That would be (welcome) news to me.
Yeah, where I hunt at lunch time back at camp everyone empties their rifles.[/Qlong, and it has had its fair share of ]

I hate to say it, BUT, its not the rifle.

Winchester 94. Point in safe direction. Cradle the receiver with your left hand and push in on the loading gate with one or 2 fingers, just enough to prevent the next round from popping out of the magazine. While holding the gate like this, open the lever. The chambered round pops out. Close the lever. You now have an empty chamber and you haven't had to jack all the rounds out. Cant bring it into camp or a vehicle like this, but does make the rifle safe just to cross fences or whatever reason people feel the need to empty a rifle for. Carried mine for over 20 years every year for deer, trapping all season long and had it out moose hunting several years. The blueing is wore at the carry point, It has wood scars,snapped a rear sight off once. However in the hundreds(thousands?) of hours I have carried, shot, loaded/unloaded, I have never had an AD.

Your camp must have different rules than mine. An AD usually results in being asked to go home for the rest of the season to learn how to handle your firearm. A second offence is permanent. Unlike the rest of the world we are old school enough to hold the person accountable. Respect the firearm, and learn it, AND keep it clean. Your buddy wouldn't have had an issue if bothered to take the time.

I dont think the win 94 is the be all and end all, but man, are they a joy to carry.
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cheapsk8 said:
Londonshooter said:
Guess I'm a ####. Have an heirloom model 1893 that I will never sell but no longer hunt with it.
Carried a Win 94 for several years and came to realize that it was unsafe design most pointedly when a neighboring camp member had accidental discharge on unloading right in front of me. So the crossbolt safety allows you to cycle on half-####? That would be (welcome) news to me.
Yeah, where I hunt at lunch time back at camp everyone empties their rifles.[/Qlong, and it has had its fair share of ]

I hate to say it, BUT, its not the rifle.

Winchester 94. Point in safe direction. Cradle the receiver with your left hand and push in on the loading gate with one or 2 fingers, just enough to prevent the next round from popping out of the magazine. While holding the gate like this, open the lever. The chambered round pops out. Close the lever. You now have an empty chamber and you haven't had to jack all the rounds out. Cant bring it into camp or a vehicle like this, but does make the rifle safe just to cross fences or whatever reason people feel the need to empty a rifle for. Carried mine for over 20 years every year for deer, trapping all season long and had it out moose hunting several years. The blueing is wore at the carry point, It has wood scars,snapped a rear sight off once. However in the hundreds(thousands?) of hours I have carried, shot, loaded/unloaded, I have never had an AD.

Your camp must have different rules than mine. An AD usually results in being asked to go home for the rest of the season to learn how to handle your firearm. A second offence is permanent. Unlike the rest of the world we are old school enough to hold the person accountable. Respect the firearm, and learn it, AND keep it clean. Your buddy wouldn't have had an issue if bothered to take the time.

I dont think the win 94 is the be all and end all, but man, are they a joy to carry.
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Wow...you are giving the average gun owner way more credit that he deserves if you expect most of them to manage this. Londonshooter, this is not a crack at you...but most gun owners are not gun nutz and can't be trusted to put every cartridge into the magazine facing forward, let alone execute that maneuver. Slight exaggeration, perhaps...but only slight...

I don't now about the crossbolt safety, never had a Winchester lever with it. The Marlin crossbolt lets the hammer drop without contacting the pin; to a casual eye it looks and certainly sounds and feels like a true hammer fall. It's now double-safe; not only is the shooter safe, but sometimes even the game animal is made safer this way. The safety is on...the nimrod raises the rifle, and either cocks the hammer manually or cycles the lever to chamber and ####...he squeezes the trigger...the hammer falls...the gun clicks...the deer looks up...the gun is cycled and the trigger activated again...the deer stamps...and the cycle repeats until the animal runs away unscathed. Our hero stares dumbly at the pile of pristine cartridges on the ground...and then realization dawns...

Okay, I didn't say I was a genius, and yes, it happened to me just that way once. If you have spent your life safely operating a lever with only the half-#### safety, and then get your hands on one of the super-duper-extra-safe new ones, it will happen to you too. Yes...it will! :) Newbies, who never had a traditional levergun, will laugh and look so smart in comparison...:)
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i think the best would be 30-06 mine are remington pump action an remington bolt action
but i have a 300 win magnum parker hale too and a combo 12/35 win belgium made
 
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