If you thought SKS prices are crazy here....

In all honesty, I don't know why a "niche" manufacturer in the US hasn't started making SKS rifles for sale there, just like they do with AK/FN types.

Also, that Chinese SKS with the "blade" bayonet is a collector item. If it's one of the original SKS rifles made on Russian supplied equipment, under the tutelage of Russian instructor/supervisors, it's fairly rare and sought after. If the blade was swapped out by Bubba, not so much.

Looking at the rest of the pics, it appears to be an early Norinco that's been refurbed or assembled from bins of parts.

I would suspect lack of demand. Real SKSs can demand a premium due to scarcity and historical/collector value, but a newly manufactured one doesn't have that appeal and would be directly competing with AKs. Given the choice, I think most people would pick the AK with its reputation for incredible reliability and detachable 20-30+ round mags, especially considering I would suspect a low to mid tier AK to be cheaper than a newly built sks due to differences in manufacturing (milled vs stamped receivers) and economy of scale (a newly manufactured sks would probably be a pretty niche item so whoever made them probably wouldn't be able to sell enough to bring the cost per unit down to a reasonable price)
 
I've learned to just not trust anything on Gun broker. My american friends are always talking about how it's just full of scam sellers and bot bidders. The 800$ sks' here don't sell either. 450 is honestly where they cap out - you can buy a dozen of them instantly for that price from one of the vendors.

I bought and sold on gunbroker, never had a bad experience. Just check out their feedback as usual. I think I have a plus 60 feedback score but not doing it anymore. I usually had the item shipped to a place close to the border, picked it up and cleared customs myself. But that's not possible right now.
 
A friend sent me a list of classic car prices and how they are going crazy too.

Take care of what you have and if it isn’t made anymore, it seems like it’ll go up in value. I won’t be surprised if SKS prices start at $600 in 5 weeks.


fixed it for you. prices have been really crazy over the past while, have you noticed the 1500$ prices on enfields over the last few weeks.....
 
A friend sent me a list of classic car prices and how they are going crazy too.

Take care of what you have and if it isn’t made anymore, it seems like it’ll go up in value. I won’t be surprised if SKS prices start at $600 in 5 years.

I find the exact opposite.

Boomers are dying off and their kids think they can make a buck. It will hit rock bottom within the next few years. There aren't enough people buying any more to justify it, last hurrah of the boomer mobile. I'm already seeing it effecting cars like the Corvette, those things are flat lining right now.
 
I can always find a deal on cars, just keep looking. Some people are trying to sell a car (mostly SUV) for 10K while you can find it for 5K with a little searching. BS argument chip shortage, yes there is a shortage, production problems but this will be resolved eventually.
 
I bought and sold on gunbroker, never had a bad experience. Just check out their feedback as usual. I think I have a plus 60 feedback score but not doing it anymore. I usually had the item shipped to a place close to the border, picked it up and cleared customs myself. But that's not possible right now.

Feedback doesn't mean much anymore. Sounds like a real mess down there

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I would suspect lack of demand. Real SKSs can demand a premium due to scarcity and historical/collector value, but a newly manufactured one doesn't have that appeal and would be directly competing with AKs. Given the choice, I think most people would pick the AK with its reputation for incredible reliability and detachable 20-30+ round mags, especially considering I would suspect a low to mid tier AK to be cheaper than a newly built sks due to differences in manufacturing (milled vs stamped receivers) and economy of scale (a newly manufactured sks would probably be a pretty niche item so whoever made them probably wouldn't be able to sell enough to bring the cost per unit down to a reasonable price)

You’re likely right, but there could be demand in restricted states like California where I understand people can’t own an ak, but can own an sks. Perhaps new manufacturing processes could offer alternatives to milling an sks? People like all sorts of different kinds of guns just to be different from the pack ... an sks-d clone for non-restricted states and something capacity limited for restricted states ... maybe in a different caliber .. anything is possible, if they could get a cheaper manufacturing process .. maybe they could cast some parts or 3D print parts? 5.56 anyone? It’s not an AR and in some places, that’s important.
 
I would suspect lack of demand. Real SKSs can demand a premium due to scarcity and historical/collector value, but a newly manufactured one doesn't have that appeal and would be directly competing with AKs. Given the choice, I think most people would pick the AK with its reputation for incredible reliability and detachable 20-30+ round mags, especially considering I would suspect a low to mid tier AK to be cheaper than a newly built sks due to differences in manufacturing (milled vs stamped receivers) and economy of scale (a newly manufactured sks would probably be a pretty niche item so whoever made them probably wouldn't be able to sell enough to bring the cost per unit down to a reasonable price)


I've spoken with a lot of US shooters that would much prefer an SKS over an AK. Especially those that have had an opportunity to use one under stressful conditions and compare it to the other.

IMHO, there is enough of a demand to build a fully US made SKS to make it quite profitable, especially if one were produced in 5.56Nato, 6.5 Grendel, 7.62 Blackout etc.

I believe it's a niche market being completely overlooked, because of fear of the Chinese monster factories being allowed to inundate the US markets with their warehouses full of surplus SKS rifles.

I've been hoping for a long time now that some US manufacturer would produce a civilian version of the SKS in 5.56Nato, so that I don't have to build one for myself.

All of those cheap Mini 14 and AR magazines will need to be put to some useful purpose and what better than to modify a beater SKS to accept them and shoot the ammo they were designed for.

Don't go pulling the excessive pressure on me either. They built AKs into 5.56Nato capable rifles by converting existing rifles and producing accompanying magazines.

All they did, was open the gas ports on the prototypes to blow off the excess gas/pressure on the return spring and piston. The receiver is plenty strong enough as a single shot.

Modern grades of steel would quickly overcome any other fears and with the modifications available today, those rifles would work almost as well as AR type rifles for a lot of competitive situations in Canada.

I guess I need to get in touch with Lever Arms and pick up a decent receiver and other parts to complete the rifle I want to build.

Bolt face and extractor, as well as a stronger recoil/return spring are going to be the biggest obstacles.

Fitting a removable magazine will be tricky as well. Otherwise, I can modify the existing magazine to accept and load the 5.56 rounds butttttt?
 
I've spoken with a lot of US shooters that would much prefer an SKS over an AK. Especially those that have had an opportunity to use one under stressful conditions and compare it to the other.
Interesting... I've always found the SKS to be inferior, particularly in terms of precision. Many (not all) are minute of pie plate for precision. The AK platform isn't great, but it's better than that.

As for reliability, that isn't really a huge problem with AKs.
Weight? AK is lighter by over a pound.
Ease of cleaning? Meh.. no major hiccups with either.

I'm curious what's driving these statements that SKS is a more preferred rifle. <totally confused>
 
Geez, why so hostile ? clearly he was addressing Gunbroker as a whole. He didnt even type the word "you".

You clearly know what you are talking about.


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You’re likely right, but there could be demand in restricted states like California where I understand people can’t own an ak, but can own an sks. Perhaps new manufacturing processes could offer alternatives to milling an sks? People like all sorts of different kinds of guns just to be different from the pack ... an sks-d clone for non-restricted states and something capacity limited for restricted states ... maybe in a different caliber .. anything is possible, if they could get a cheaper manufacturing process .. maybe they could cast some parts or 3D print parts? 5.56 anyone? It’s not an AR and in some places, that’s important.

The original AK prototype had a stamped instead of milled receiver, but the Soviets couldn't get stamping the receiver right at the time of adoption of the AK. The AKM (approved in 56-57 IIRC), on the other hand, is nothing more than a stamped AK-47, so the Soviets were able to get the stamping issues they had under control.

There's no reason a SKS receiver couldn't be made from stampings. Whether that can be done efficiently and economically remains to be seen.
 
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