Importing Restricted Weapons From The USA

Thank you for your input in regard to the word "weapon". I wasn't aware that things in Canada had slipped so far that terms that have been used for decades/centuries were being sensored by individuals who share common passions.

Just so that my opinion is known, I have, for the better part of my life, owned items that can be looked at as weapons. I've owned hunting knives, bows and arrows, rifles, shotguns, handguns, etc. In all cases, I was taught to respect the particular "tool" that I was using and to use it responsibly and for its intended purpose. Learning to respect these potentially deadly tools is, to me, far more important than what they are called. I can assure you that the deer, the moose, the rabbits, etc. that are taken in yearly hunts would consider the firearms used to end their lives to be weapons. Even so, tool used to take their lives was "in most cases' used for its legal purpose.

I joined this forum to have fun, to acquire information and to pass on knowledge where I can. I've only been here a couple of days and I already have some individuals who are trying to sensor me when they know nothing about me.

To mudgunner49, thanks for your rant. It was thoroughly enjoyed. To Camp Cook, take a look in the mirror and see if there is any way you can improve who you are. I've been trying to improve myself for more than 58 years, and I'm still a work in process. Also, at 58, I am no longer a deadly "WEAPON".
 
Wheelgunner... Weapons are bad things.. Pick up any newspaper and read where johnny pointed his chicken finger at a classmate like a gun.. He and the weapon where expelled.....


I classify my firearms as tools... As you say tools can be used as weapons... but why you would open yourself to issues is beyond me...
 
Foks,

Give this new member a break! I am sure at 58, after a lifetime of hard work, he deserves it. Be happy he is still one of us, plinking away, etc. and not voting Liberal to sweeten his old days.
 
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bear.23 said:
Wheelgunner... Weapons are bad things.. Pick up any newspaper and read where johnny pointed his chicken finger at a classmate like a gun.. He and the weapon where expelled.....


I classify my firearms as tools... As you say tools can be used as weapons... but why you would open yourself to issues is beyond me...
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If you track this issue from the beginning, you will see that I merely used the word "weapon". I did not know that I was opening myself up to anything.

I can respect, although not agree with, your view of the word "weapon". In grade school, my first wife used to stab me in the back with a straight pen, was the pen a weapon? As things turned out, she was far more dangerous then the pen.

You do realize that we are having this discussion on a forum called Canadian Gunnutz, don't you? What do you think that says to the anti gunners?

Have a great day!
 
Thanks For Your Input

target221 said:
Foks,

Give this new member a break! I am sure at 58, after a lifetime of hard work, he deserves it. Be happy he is still one of us, plinking away, etc. and not voting Liberal to sweeten his old days.
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Thanks target221, I have, and always will, support the right of gun owners to pursue their passions. My guns have given me years of enjoyment.

Have a great day and enjoy your passion.
 
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Wheelgunner said:
Thanks target221, I have, and always will, support the right of gun owners to pursue their passions. My guns have givern me years of enjoyment.

Have a great day and enjoy your passion.
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Wheelgunner,

I apologize if you thought that my rant was aimed at you in any way, as that was absolutely not the case. It just happened to be where I came into the thread.

While I haven't been enjoying my "tools" as long as you have, I have been at this awhile. Long enough to see it morph from the sport that everyone around me took part in and enjoyed, to the thing that apparently needs to be (almost, but not quite) hidden.

When I went to HS, we took our shotguns to school, signed a canoe out from the rec centre at lunch and went out onto the North Channel to shoot ducks - tell me that wouldn't land you in jail now...

Keep enjoying...


blake
 
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mudgunner49 said:
Wheelgunner,

I apologize if you thought that my rant was aimed at you in any way, as that was absolutely not the case. It just happened to be where I came into the thread.

While I haven't been enjoying my "tools" as long as you have, I have been at this awhile. Long enough to see it morph from the sport that everyone around me took part in and enjoyed, to the thing that apparently needs to be (almost, but not quite) hidden.

When I went to HS, we took our shotguns to school, signed a canoe out from the rec centre at lunch and went out onto the North Channel to shoot ducks - tell me that wouldn't land you in jail now...

Keep enjoying...


blake
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Blake, I enjoyed reading your rant and it pleases me that you have been able to enjoy something that has brought me many years of pleasure.

When I stated wanting firearms, I did not have to worry about what I called them. As kids we could play shoot it up with our toy guns and immitate our TV heros. I could be Gene Autry, Roy Rogers, The Lone Ranger, Josh Randall, Marshall Dillon, etc., etc. I have never had a gun, or finger, confiscated. We played and faught until we couldn't play anymore. Funny though, none of us has grown up to be a serial killer, bank robber, etc. We just had some good old clean Canadian fun.

I will admit that my passion is now kept quite hidden. In fact, I don't even buy my collectibles in my own community. Sad, isn't it?

Today, we have children that can't fill their time with productive activities, so they turn to things like drugs, alcohol, crime, etc. A little duck hunting would do them a lot of good.

We are not going to convert the anti-gunners by choosing particular words for our "tools". They don't like our tools. We need to interest as many as possible into trying what we enjoy. Challenge them to try. The ones with closed minds will never change, but others will give it a go.

The new laws for guns, firearms, tools or weapons have cost me a lot of money and my collection is greatly reduced in size. Even so, I am glad that I was able to enjoy many years of pleasure in my hobby/activity. I'm please that you have enjoyed some of the same.

Have a great evening!
 
This terminology debate is funny. What can't guns be called guns? I would never call any of my guns a "tool" but then again I've never tried to build a birdhouse with any of them either...
 
To Camp Cook, take a look in the mirror and see if there is any way you can improve who you are. I've been trying to improve myself for more than 58 years, and I'm still a work in process. Also, at 58, I am no longer a deadly "WEAPON".
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But in your case you are making your firearms to be percieved as deadly weapons.

Because I have an issue with anyone that is not an enforcement officer or military feeding the anti firearms crowd by calling a firearm a weapon I need to look into a mirror to see how I can improve myself...

You must be a very perceptive person... :D

Heres some background for you I have been and still am intimately involved in the fight to keep our yes that includes even your rights to own firearms legally in this country so when I see someone feeding the anti crowd by calling a firearm a weapon I will always inform that person of the politically correct way of discussing firearms.

If you have an issue with that then it is your problem not mine.
 
Camp Cook said:
But in your case you are making your firearms to be percieved as deadly weapons.

Because I have an issue with anyone that is not an enforcement officer or military feeding the anti firearms crowd by calling a firearm a weapon I need to look into a mirror to see how I can improve myself...

You must be a very perceptive person... :D

Heres some background for you I have been and still am intimately involved in the fight to keep our yes that includes even your rights to own firearms legally in this country so when I see someone feeding the anti crowd by calling a firearm a weapon I will always inform that person of the politically correct way of discussing firearms.

If you have an issue with that then it is your problem not mine.
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Camp Cook, I respect your right to your opinion, but if you think that changing the name of something is going to change the opposition's feeling about it, you are sadly mistaken, my friend.

I believe in sites like the one we are on. I do not know how long it has been in existance, but I'm certain that those concerned with defeating our right to own and use our arms, guns, firearms, smoke sticks, weapons, etc. would be more concerned about us being gunnutz then they are about the use of the word weapon. What do YOU think about that? Do you think that a name change is warranted here? Of course not. When are we going to stop jumping through hoops and show that the vast majority of us are merely responsible gun owners?

Using your termonology, a 1911, a Luger, a Mauser or Beretta, that was used as a combat weapon, becomes something totally different when it comes up for sale on the civilian market. Do you really think that word use will sway the anti gunner's opinion in this area? If we treat them as stupid, they will, in the end, show us who the stupid ones are.

Rest assured that you are not the only one who has fought for our gun rights.

Like many of you, I used to be able to store my unloaded guns in an open display case. My single action hung, in its western belt/holster, on a wooden peg at one end of the display case. When I entered the room, I was proud of my collection and it gave me a sence of security to know that they were there. Those days are gone, now, we have our prized possessions locked away in our vaults where they cannot be enjoyed the same and even routine maintenance becomes a lot more difficult. Do you think that I like that?

I don't know what type of guns you own, but for those owning restricted/prohibited copies, there is something changing out there. Registrations that used to take minutes or hours, now take weeks due to the backlog. Does this mean that we, as a group, are buying more? I'm not, I only have a small number left. Or, does it mean that more people want to have a firearm in their home. I guess that it could mean that the gangs now want to use registered "weapons". Yes, I know, that was sarcastic.

Well, I'm starting to ramble so I had better stop.

Have a good day, Camp Cook
 
Max Owner said:
Same here.

Firearm, not weapon.

What was the original thread about?

(went back and checked................)
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Max Owner,

The original post was as follows:

"Do any of you have experience importing restricted weapons from the USA to Canada? If yes, please provide details."

You responded twice with no comment about terminology.


Have a good day
 
Let me try doing this differently for you by starting over.

Wheelgunner welcome to Canadian Gun Nutz it is a great site that many of us use to further our firearms knowledge and to fight for our firearms rights here in Canada.

I hope that in the future that you continue to return and be part of this great firearms community.

You will also find that due to the amount of volunteer work done fighting for our firearms rights by many on this site that we will make comments like the ones I have made to you into pointing out the incorrect terminology that you used.

I will also say that in the last several years there is not less but far more firearms in my home, I am the director of communication for BC's largest and fastest growing gun club and a vice president of BC's largest electoral district association for the CPC's.

Yes I am involved very involved in the fight for firearms rights in Canada.

I have no personal use for restricted black or green firearms but bought a cheap non-restricted SKS just to have a semi-auto rifle. I own both semi-auto and revolver handguns all of which I legally carry into remote wilderness areas for protection of my life and the life of others. I own bolt action, lever action, a 7400 semi auto and single shot hunting rifles that I use for hunting and defense against wild animals. My shotguns are single shot, sxs and pumps that I use for duck hunting, defense and competitions.

I will end my comments to you by stating that a military weapon of any sort becomes just a plain old firearm when a civilian owns it.

Welcome again to CGNTZ... :D
 
Camp Cook said:
Let me try doing this differently for you by starting over.

Wheelgunner welcome to Canadian Gun Nutz it is a great site that many of us use to further our firearms knowledge and to fight for our firearms rights here in Canada.

I hope that in the future that you continue to return and be part of this great firearms community.

You will also find that due to the amount of volunteer work done fighting for our firearms rights by many on this site that we will make comments like the ones I have made to you into pointing out the incorrect terminology that you used.

I will also say that in the last several years there is not less but far more firearms in my home, I am the director of communication for BC's largest and fastest growing gun club and a vice president of BC's largest electoral district association for the CPC's.

Yes I am involved very involved in the fight for firearms rights in Canada.

I have no personal use for restricted black or green firearms but bought a cheap non-restricted SKS just to have a semi-auto rifle. I own both semi-auto and revolver handguns all of which I legally carry into remote wilderness areas for protection of my life and the life of others. I own bolt action, lever action, a 7400 semi auto and single shot hunting rifles that I use for hunting and defense against wild animals. My shotguns are single shot, sxs and pumps that I use for duck hunting, defense and competitions.

I will end my comments to you by stating that a military weapon of any sort becomes just a plain old firearm when a civilian owns it.

Welcome again to CGNTZ... :D
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Camp Cook, Thank you for your welcome. I joined this forum to learn and to share. I hope to do both. As for the word "weapon", let's just agree to disagree.

Just for the record, you or anyone else can try to choose the words that I write, but that is, however, a form of censorship. As you have found out, I meet things head on and I will express my so called "freedom of speech".

I have owned, or do own, semi-auto rifles, bolt action rifles, lever action rifles, pump action shot guns, single and double action revolvers and semi-auto handguns (restricted and prohibited). I have enjoyed them all and I will fight for our right to own them.

Sometime, you can share with me, how you got legal permission to carry a handgun, I assume as a backup, while hunting. I tried to get permission to do this years ago and was flatly turned down. That was back when things were handled by our provincial police department.

Have a Great Day
 
SCULLY said:
Yes, its very very simple, i recommend using "Questar" , they are a site sponsor and have a banner up top of page. All they do is import/export for people, ive used Mark twice for some high end 1911's only available in the U.S, very knowledgeable and great service.
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SCULLY, I posted this as a general comment, but some may have missed it. Please note that I was looking at a couple of used revolvers in the $500.00 each range.

"Thanks to all. My question should have been how can I import restricted weapons from the US to Canada in a way that won't double the cost of the weapon/weapons?

Have a great day!"
 
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Travis said:
Importing firearms from the USA is pretty straightforward. On the other hand, exporting firearms out of the US is a royal pain. Service providers like Questar are well worth their $200+ fee.

Here is some great info...

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51554
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Travis, I was just re-reading all of the posts here and I realized that I had totally missed the link that you had provided. There was a good deal of valuable information there.

Thanks for your help.
 
Just seems reasonable to me that in this day and age, the way things are in relation to people and their distorted views on guns/pistols/rifles etc.., that understanding why using the term "Firearm" instead of " Weapon" would make perfect sense. Its not an issue on how we gun enthusiasts feel about it, its more of an issue of how other people like anti-gun politcians who would love to twist and distort things interpret it. Whether your 18 or 80, it really has no relevance on the fact that by using the term "Weapons" when describing your firearms, your indirectly giving these anti's the kind of crap they like to use to sway and pollute the minds of people who are not familiar with our passions with firearms. There are many people on these forums who right now are fighting diligently to make sure the government does not take away more of our gun ownership rights as well as trying to get some that have already been taken away which is why you'll find many people here sensitive to the way firearms are referred to. As much as you can argue that calling firearms "weapons" in this arena should not be a problem, it in fact is because this is a very popular and closely looked at forum in which not only Gun Nuts come in to read. And if everyone here was referring to their firearms as weapons, I can tell you right now that the government would have an easier time banning our firearms. Weapons are things perceived as items uses by people engaged in some for of combat. Not by people enjoying plinking, or competive target shooting, or hunting, or personal defence etc... Perception is a very powerful thing, and one thing is for dam sure, I definatly want to government to understand that my firearms are perceived as pistols and rifles that are used for recreational and passive purposes as opposed to thinking that I own firearms in which i perceive them as weapons.
As being a gun owner for 58 years, you must understand why its important to keep these kind of perceptions seperate, especially in forums like these in which people can and will take your words literaly even though most of us know that when you use the term "weapon" that your using it without ill intention. It sucks that we cant put our guard down and expect everyone reading to know what we mean without prejudice, however there are people here who read for the sole purpose to try and pick up things that they can twist to their benefit to feed to the mass public that guns are nothing more then " weapons" and that we gunowners are somehow responsible for their failed attempts to rid the streets of Canada of crime and violence.

Lots of ignorant people out there. Thats unfortunatly the cold hard truth.
 
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