Importing Restricted Weapons From The USA

Importation Headaches

DOn't do it... if the gun is worth more then $200 then Questar is your answer...


There is a load of paperwork, there are some fees involved there will be courier and postage charges....

I have the process somewhere and It was posted on the board... But really unless you wanna spend six months banging your head against a wall your far better off putting it in someone elses hands...


bear.23, Thanks for your warning. At this point, I don't believe that I want to tackle this myself, and the charges to have someone else do it makes the purchase that I had in mind unreasonable.

Take Care
 
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CFC will tell you all you need to know about importing yourself, and send you relevant forms. BUT...the effort, time and confusion is enormous. I looked into it and quickly turned to Questar. They cost a lot, but if the gun is unobtainable in Canada, and you don't have the time (and, believe me, it's a lot), Questar is the way to go. I've done this with Mark, and it works well, if expensively. Most of the expense is in duty and tax coming into Canada. If the gun is expensive, using Questar is probably the best way to go. And all the delays and difficulty I've experienced (through Questar) have been because of difficulty on the US side.


MTF, Thanks for your reply. I now know what you mean. The value of the two guns that I was looking at does not warrant using Questar.
 
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Is there a dollar value for a firearm that justifies bringing it in? Obviously a $200 pistol isn't worth it, but if you wanted to bring a collectable in worth a couple thou then it should be, correct?...


bbartsch, The purchase that I had in mind does not warrant the cost. Thanks for your input.
 
My only reason for gettin' a gun in the US was because what noone here could get me what I wanted within a reasonable time. 'Not their fault I'm sure. I assume Canadian dealers are way down at the bottom of the distribution priority list. Sure they's take a deposit, but without a concrete delivery date... I'll shop elsewhere.


337, Thanks for your reply. I know what you mean.
 
It has to do with educating the layperson. The term weapon conjures negative images to the layperson, whereas firearm is a nuetral term. If we want to gain acceptance as a sport we need to use terminology that is not threatening.

Just remember that the anti's like it when we use words that support their cause. Weapons = killing = bad = ban.


Mr AR15, I think that you are selling the anti's short. Using your name as an example, if you show them a photo of your AR15, you can call it whatever you want, they will call it an assault rifle, thus weopon. I believe that every time that we try to pull the wool over their eyes, we are removing all possibility of gaining their acceptance.

By the way, I have never owned an AR15, but I would like one.

Take Care
 
Just seems reasonable to me that in this day and age, the way things are in relation to people and their distorted views on guns/pistols/rifles etc.., that understanding why using the term "Firearm" instead of " Weapon" would make perfect sense. Its not an issue on how we gun enthusiasts feel about it, its more of an issue of how other people like anti-gun politcians who would love to twist and distort things interpret it. Whether your 18 or 80, it really has no relevance on the fact that by using the term "Weapons" when describing your firearms, your indirectly giving these anti's the kind of crap they like to use to sway and pollute the minds of people who are not familiar with our passions with firearms. There are many people on these forums who right now are fighting diligently to make sure the government does not take away more of our gun ownership rights as well as trying to get some that have already been taken away which is why you'll find many people here sensitive to the way firearms are referred to. As much as you can argue that calling firearms "weapons" in this arena should not be a problem, it in fact is because this is a very popular and closely looked at forum in which not only Gun Nuts come in to read. And if everyone here was referring to their firearms as weapons, I can tell you right now that the government would have an easier time banning our firearms. Weapons are things perceived as items uses by people engaged in some for of combat. Not by people enjoying plinking, or competive target shooting, or hunting, or personal defence etc... Perception is a very powerful thing, and one thing is for dam sure, I definatly want to government to understand that my firearms are perceived as pistols and rifles that are used for recreational and passive purposes as opposed to thinking that I own firearms in which i perceive them as weapons.
As being a gun owner for 58 years, you must understand why its important to keep these kind of perceptions seperate, especially in forums like these in which people can and will take your words literaly even though most of us know that when you use the term "weapon" that your using it without ill intention. It sucks that we cant put our guard down and expect everyone reading to know what we mean without prejudice, however there are people here who read for the sole purpose to try and pick up things that they can twist to their benefit to feed to the mass public that guns are nothing more then " weapons" and that we gunowners are somehow responsible for their failed attempts to rid the streets of Canada of crime and violence.


Lots of ignorant people out there. Thats unfortunatly the cold hard truth.


RDevigne, Thanks for your statements. I respect your right to your beliefs, however, a few things come to my mind while reading them.

First, in Winnipeg, do you really feel that you could use ANY of you FIREARMS for personnal defence?

Second, I can understand your thinking, but I truly believe that you are on the wrong track. I'm sitting here right now with the TV on and they, on the National, are discussing the the guy who did the last school shootings/killings at Dawson College. Tomorrow night, they will be talking to the victoms.

I don't believe for a minute that the viewers out there will care what we call our guns. They will look at this guy as a GUN NUT. Even though this guy demonstrated many warning signs, no one did anything to stop his rampage.

Today, in Toronto, a young lad was stabbed to death. Do you really think that people will challenge people's rights to own knives? Of course not. It will, however give them cause to rehash all of the Toronto gang shootings.

Admittedly, I don't know how to change the public's perspective on guns when the media, with help from some nut cases and from the gangs in Toronto, keep them in the forefront.

What I do know is that the anti's won't like us to treat them as stupid. This will come back to haunt us. Mark my words.

Thirdly, This is not why I joined this forum. I joined to ask questions and to share my knowledge where possible. If members of this forum would rather fight with me instead of finding out what I can offer, I won't be here long. Are those cheers that I here?

Fourth, Since good old Allan Rock walked over all of our gun rights, just what has anyone got back for us. There was a time that I could sell collectable guns, using reputable dealers who charged 10% and make some good profits. Now, if they want your guns at all, they charge you 20% just to sell them. Of the last ten that I sold, I lost over $200.00/gun on eight of them, if you don't count tax, I broke even on one and I made $13.00 on the tenth one. These particular guns were all brand name, brand new, unfired, with boxes and all paperwork. I now own very few. Yes, we are hanging on, but don't decieve yourself into thinking that we are making any gains.

Take Care
 
I have brought in firearms from the states myself...

Don't be afraid of the paper work it isn't that hard to do patience is your best friend though...


One other thing as a Canadian citizen you own firearms not weapons...

My firearms are only firearms and my knives are only knives...

Funny how you decided to not comment on my advise to import firearms into Canada but instead tried to start a fight because I corrected you on your choice of the word weapons.

You could have asked how did you do it?

How much did it cost?

How much time was involved?

I would have shared in great detail to help a fellow firearms owner in Canada.

I have never used the ignore feature in this forum before so let me congratulate you on being the first...
 
Funny how you decided to not comment on my advise to import firearms into Canada but instead tried to start a fight because I corrected you on your choice of the word weapons.

You could have asked how did you do it?

How much did it cost?

How much time was involved?

I would have shared in great detail to help a fellow firearms owner in Canada.

I have never used the ignore feature in this forum before so let me congratulate you on being the first...


Camp Cook,

Just what is it that you want? You obviously have a large chip on your shoulder. If you look back, you will see that I did send a general thank you to those who responded to me. In that response, I questioned the concern about the word "weapon". Is that picking a fight to you? After going through the responses and checking out various documentation fees, etc., I knew that this was a road that I did not wish to travel.

If it makes you feel better, PLEASE provide me with your expertise. You know, the expertise that you could have just offered to the new guy. Hell, I will even apologize for not asking you directly. We both know, however, that you just have to be the big shot who has all of the answers.

I'll tell you, if you are a sample of what we have fighting for our gun rights, we are all in deep ####.

If you do not want to respond to me or hear what I say, don't respond to my posts. It is as easy as that.

Now, get your mommy to give you a glass of milk, kiss your forehead, and tuck you safely in bed. You pompuus ass.
 
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I don't know if you have an issue with your pride or if you really don't understand what people are trying to tell you. No one is trying to fight you. People are trying to correct you. Whether you understand it or not, referring to our firearms as "Weapons" isn't the right frame or context to put it in. As you said you just joined this forums a few days ago and i'm sure that you'll find lots of info as well as provide info. As you noticed, there are many poeple if not the majority who beleive that using the term weapon when describing our firearms is a false representation of what they are and as such prefer that people use the proper terminolgy. A simple "oops ya i guess that does make firearms sound harsh" or " Yeah, sorry I didn't realise that these kind of things are important in these kind of public forum venues" would have been the end of it. Instead you chose to pull this "freedom pf speech" card balony and list off a whole bunch of irrelevant things that have nothing to do with what people were trying to tell you about using the term weapon. If you can't understand or chose not to then this might not be the best forum for you as you'll encounter lots of people who take this kind of thing very seriously. Do what you want, it really doesn't make a difference to me either way. You will however enjoy these forums a hell of alot better if you respect the general views of its 25,000 members.

Have a good one.

RDevigne, Thanks for your statements. I respect your right to your beliefs, however, a few things come to my mind while reading them.

First, in Winnipeg, do you really feel that you could use ANY of you FIREARMS for personnal defence?

Second, I can understand your thinking, but I truly believe that you are on the wrong track. I'm sitting here right now with the TV on and they, on the National, are discussing the the guy who did the last school shootings/killings at Dawson College. Tomorrow night, they will be talking to the victoms.

I don't believe for a minute that the viewers out there will care what we call our guns. They will look at this guy as a GUN NUT. Even though this guy demonstrated many warning signs, no one did anything to stop his rampage.

Today, in Toronto, a young lad was stabbed to death. Do you really think that people will challenge people's rights to own knives? Of course not. It will, however give them cause to rehash all of the Toronto gang shootings.

Admittedly, I don't know how to change the public's perspective on guns when the media, with help from some nut cases and from the gangs in Toronto, keep them in the forefront.

What I do know is that the anti's won't like us to treat them as stupid. This will come back to haunt us. Mark my words.

Thirdly, This is not why I joined this forum. I joined to ask questions and to share my knowledge where possible. If members of this forum would rather fight with me instead of finding out what I can offer, I won't be here long. Are those cheers that I here?

Fourth, Since good old Allan Rock walked over all of our gun rights, just what has anyone got back for us. There was a time that I could sell collectable guns, using reputable dealers who charged 10% and make some good profits. Now, if they want your guns at all, they charge you 20% just to sell them. Of the last ten that I sold, I lost over $200.00/gun on eight of them, if you don't count tax, I broke even on one and I made $13.00 on the tenth one. These particular guns were all brand name, brand new, unfired, with boxes and all paperwork. I now own very few. Yes, we are hanging on, but don't decieve yourself into thinking that we are making any gains.

Take Care
 
I don't know if you have an issue with your pride or if you really don't understand what people are trying to tell you. No one is trying to fight you. People are trying to correct you. Whether you understand it or not, referring to our firearms as "Weapons" isn't the right frame or context to put it in. As you said you just joined this forums a few days ago and i'm sure that you'll find lots of info as well as provide info. As you noticed, there are many poeple if not the majority who beleive that using the term weapon when describing our firearms is a false representation of what they are and as such prefer that people use the proper terminolgy. A simple "oops ya i guess that does make firearms sound harsh" or " Yeah, sorry I didn't realise that these kind of things are important in these kind of public forum venues" would have been the end of it. Instead you chose to pull this "freedom pf speech" card balony and list off a whole bunch of irrelevant things that have nothing to do with what people were trying to tell you about using the term weapon. If you can't understand or chose not to then this might not be the best forum for you as you'll encounter lots of people who take this kind of thing very seriously. Do what you want, it really doesn't make a difference to me either way. You will however enjoy these forums a hell of alot better if you respect the general views of its 25,000 members.

Have a good one.

Again, I respect your belief's, but I feel that you are deceiving yourself if you truly believe that this word distinction will have any positive bearing on us maintaining our gun rights. I could offer you a number of examples, but these examples would be irrelevant too. Have you even considered that I may be right? I have given a lot of thought to what I have heard here.

Whatever our beliefs, we all still want to retain, and hopefully increase, our gun rights. I wish you success with your fight. My fight will take a slightly different course.

I did notice that some members did choose to respond to the question asked and to those member, I offer my sincere thanks. I don't believe that you were one of them.

You do not need to respond to this post. I will no longer be checking in. This forum is far to political for my tastes.

Have a great day!
 
It has to do with educating the layperson. The term weapon conjures negative images to the layperson, whereas firearm is a nuetral term. If we want to gain acceptance as a sport we need to use terminology that is not threatening.

This is totally off-topic, but this is one of my pet peeves.

What you suggest is a lovely theory but it is impossible in practice. Guns are weapons. They're defined in law as weapons. The dictionary says they are weapons. People who are not into shooting sports will always see them as weapons because of TV etc. You're banging your head against a brick wall believing otherwise.

When people think of a sword they don't think of modern fencing.

The total failure of trying to pretend handguns are sporting devices was seen in the handgun ban in GB in 1997, public just didn't buy it, and they won't after a massacre. Trying to convince the public that a 9mm Browning is not a "weapon" is a farce.

The better argument is to convince the public that it's okay for people to own weapons, which is why the NRA in the US is so successful.
 
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