IN-STOCK: All-New TYPE 81 SR

bigmouth said:
Sheet metal, rivets, stock surgery, "Srew Required, drilling receiver, mediocre at best scope, >$2k. Why anyone would choose this over a $400 sks in the same caliber still baffles me.
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According to the CBC news earlier, SKS is to be added to Ottawa's military-style assault weapons ban.
No more SKS?
 
There are hundreds of thousands of them in Canada and they were not restricted. Good luck taking them away, when most people have long ago sold or destroyed theirs.
 
JasonLiu said:
According to the CBC news earlier, SKS is to be added to Ottawa's military-style assault weapons ban.
No more SKS?
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Any list the SKS is on, I'd expect the Type 81 to be on as well. Then trench 'type' sweepers (shotguns). Then sniper 'type' rifles (hunting rifles). Then anything that launches a projectile.
 
JasonLiu said:
According to the CBC news earlier, SKS is to be added to Ottawa's military-style assault weapons ban.
No more SKS?
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This is not very likely, as it might backfire on them.

1)This might upset the Liberal voting FUDDS, as nearly everybody and their brother owns one, which means that for the very first time this segment of gun owners would actually be affected by any of the bans.

2) The only SKS rifles they could hope to be collected, would be anything bought from a retailer post may 18-th, which represent only a tiny fraction of what is already out there.

3) They could now be actually used as intended (conditions permitting of course), as most people would do away with the rivots, since the charge would be the same if caught.
 
Emshey said:
Is there a rough torque spec for the mounting plate? I believe this was stated before in another area but I can’t seem to find it.
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its not much torque. I didn't use a torque spec but tightened until the plate sat flat and used loctite.
 
volkov956 said:
Below is a link to my stocks cracking new out of box

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Thanks for sharing. Definitely helped us understand the issue and weak points better.

JeffMan said:
That is the first stock I've seen cracked at the lower and upper pins - this leads me to think that reinforcing with a screw at the top wont work over the long term.
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You're right, seems the top screw fix isn't going to last long, the bottem need to be reinforced too. Or better fix is to add a metal plate on both side of the wood tenon.
 
Even though my stock havn't cracked yet, I figured I'll address it before it happens.. I ended up making metal side plates to reinforce the pin area. Worked great, so far feels very sturdy. After testing it by applying weight from all sides, it held up well. There is some more info on it in the Red Rifle forum, " type 81 SR modifications ideas"

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medvedqc said:
seems a perfect solution. hope ti will approve and you start the production ... watch out you may receive a lot of requests ... thank you so much.
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That is a great solution.
But it is very likely that the only way this would work with TI would be, if they sent out brand new stocks with the brackets already installed (I can't see that one happening).

I know next to nothing about wood working, but it appears, that Dimitri did some precision wood carving to accomodate those brackets (possibly done by a machine?).

This looks to be deffinielly above and beyond most people's available skill/tool set, so sending out just the brackets wouldn't likely solve the issue.
 
Relatively easy for TI to sort out.The customer sends in stock for repair ( not hard to make a jig ) and TI routers out space for new repair bracket ( stainless steel )
and then sends back or TI can get the ball rolling and send new rear stock with upgrade.A Canadian solution.I have full confidence TI will sort it out .
 
johnny the boy said:
Relatively easy for TI to sort out.The customer sends in stock for repair ( not hard to make a jig ) and TI routers out space for new repair bracket ( stainless steel )
and then sends back or TI can get the ball rolling and send new rear stock with upgrade.A Canadian solution.I have full confidence TI will sort it out .
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How long till it all gets sorted out is my concern. Not like we have ample amount of range time on the clock anymore
 
Excellent attention to detail with the wood in-letting Dmitri, great work all around, you've offered a very practical compliment to the solutions offered for this poorly engineered design flaw. So much stress on the grain pattern to begin with and no reason that more material couldn't have been left to fill the cavity....even with pre-drilling and plating, the major concern remains with splitting and tear out because of the inherit failure potential of the grain pattern orientation and the hardware affixed in line with one another. While the, now, four points of contact is the saving grace, I wonder if a slight off set of drilling to avoid the grain run would further mitigate potential splits. Again, just constructive brainstorming to further refine on your excellent idea.
 
Excellent work and photos, Dmitri.

The connection is much improved.

The fundamental problem is that the geometry of the stock/receiver interface is poorly designed. Consider the load applied to those two closely spaced pins when force is applied at the buttplate end of the stock.
In comparison, a Lee Enfield butt is secured in a closely fitted socket with a 7/16" diameter bolt.
 
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