Interac EMT's now flagging firearms sales.

frontier firearms said:
just when we thought everything was going smooth, interac has decided to flag email addresses that contains the word firearms, and will not allow payments to process. This not only includes email addresses with the name in it, but also the email address on your banks profile that the confirmations get sent back to.
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and why the f..k would you use firearms words in email transfer. Sometimes stupid is stupid.
 
This could be as simple as Interac's firewalls / web content filters filtering for "weapons, firearms, guns" like many organizations do with websites related to gambling, ####, weapons, etc. when censoring its users web browsing. Whether it's deliberate or poorly configured firewall rules is anyone's guess at this point.

The only way to find out (besides the dude that apparently knows the CEO) is to have enough people complain and see if they do anything about it. This should start with all affected dealers and us supporting one another.
 
Frontier Firearms said:
This was first noticed when someone was sending a deposit for a puppy that we were selling. Their EMT would not deposit. The reason was that the confirmation email for EMTs deposited into my personal bank account gets sent to my store email. That is how far they have taken it.
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Not to be a #### but it sounds like you've been flagged. Business EMT's must be deposited to the same account associated with the EMT email address.
So if someone sends you an EMT to your business email and you deposit it to your personal account or vice versa that has a different email attached to it then you will be flagged. Especially if it's happened more then once.
Ask me how I know this.

I will also bet it was C**C that has done this. Either way. Do yourself a favour and open another business account somewhere else. My guess is whichever bank this is will can your ass. You will get a letter stating the bank ending it's relationship with you and they will give you 60 days to make up any arrears. In the event that you have a personal account with the same bank and even worse Credit Cards they will all have to be paid off within 60 days or they go to creditors.
Ask me how I know this.

Regards
Kingpin
$21,000 lighter since February due to the above
 
King_Pin said:
Not to be a #### but it sounds like you've been flagged. Business EMT's must be deposited to the same account associated with the EMT email address.
So if someone sends you an EMT to your business email and you deposit it to your personal account or vice versa that has a different email attached to it then you will be flagged. Especially if it's happened more then once.
Ask me how I know this.

I will also bet it was C**C that has done this. Either way. Do yourself a favour and open another business account somewhere else. My guess is whichever bank this is will can your ass. You will get a letter stating the bank ending it's relationship with you and they will give you 60 days to make up any arrears. In the event that you have a personal account with the same bank and even worse Credit Cards they will all have to be paid off within 60 days or they go to creditors.
Ask me how I know this.

Regards
Kingpin
$21,000 lighter since February due to the above
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Yah, two or three letter banks only for me. Mainly cause I've never had a good experience with the other two.

Alternatively though , the banks are going through an Interac mandated upgrade to the iEMT system , which means changes at all the banks AND Interac, so if some poor outsourced programmer screwed up somewhere, that could have cause the issue also (banks are rolling these changes out over the next two months).
 
Gun religion is way overdue... Why some can carry knife and we cannot? The Supreme Court of Canada stated that personal believes are the key, not common ideology, e.g. you cannot use "expert" on religion to fight personal believe...
 
Frontier Firearms said:
This was first noticed when someone was sending a deposit for a puppy that we were selling. Their EMT would not deposit. The reason was that the confirmation email for EMTs deposited into my personal bank account gets sent to my store email. That is how far they have taken it.
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So sad... a lonely puppy needs a home... brings tears to my eyes...

Wait, are you talking about a real puppy? I was envisioning a new code word for guns.
 
Im going to go with that there is more to the story that Frontier might not know about. Everytime I've sent an EMT as payment for a firearm I write exactly what the payment is for in the note section. No problems with that.

And we accepted three EMT payments yesterday and out business has the word "gun" in it and they went through fine.

I'm going to call this an isolated incident....
 
While we're on the topic, I don't put any notes in the emt, just a separate email with the password. If it's a business, then I refer to the invoice number only. I agree this is most likely an isolated incident.
 
Im going to go with that there is more to the story that Frontier might not know about. Everytime I've sent an EMT as payment for a firearm I write exactly what the payment is for in the note section. No problems with that.

And we accepted three EMT payments yesterday and out business has the word "gun" in it and they went through fine.

I'm going to call this an isolated incident....
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I think this is about the forth or fifth time we have stated this so far. The EMTs were flagged because they were sent to an email address that contained "firearms" in it. When it would not allow us to deposit the money, we canceled the EMTs. The customers could not take the EMTs back because they were flagged by Interac.

At least 4 people (different banks different parts of the country) have been told by their banks they have to investigate for 48 hours before depositing their money back. The reason? The email address they sent the money to (and or the email we have on file with our EMT set up) contains the words FIREARMS! 4 out of 4 people telling us the same story and the same reason given.

It is all about the emails used, not the message given in the EMT.
 
ot to be a #### but it sounds like you've been flagged. Business EMT's must be deposited to the same account associated with the EMT email address.
So if someone sends you an EMT to your business email and you deposit it to your personal account or vice versa that has a different email attached to it then you will be flagged. Especially if it's happened more then once.
Ask me how I know this.

I will also bet it was C**C that has done this. Either way. Do yourself a favour and open another business account somewhere else. My guess is whichever bank this is will can your ass. You will get a letter stating the bank ending it's relationship with you and they will give you 60 days to make up any arrears. In the event that you have a personal account with the same bank and even worse Credit Cards they will all have to be paid off within 60 days or they go to creditors.
Ask me how I know this.
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You can use the same email for business and personal accounts. Does not make a difference. Our receiving Credit union is not the problem.
 
We were given confirmation today that the name firearms in our email is the source of the problem, right now no one can determine if it is the banks, Interac, or a combination. It is built in internally somewhere, we are just waiting for the parties to figure out where. The institutions have gone paranoid in the last years over terrorism/money laundering/trafficking, that we will see more of this.
 
Frontier Firearms said:
We were given confirmation today that the name firearms in our email is the source of the problem, right now no one can determine if it is the banks, Interac, or a combination. It is built in internally somewhere, we are just waiting for the parties to figure out where. The institutions have gone paranoid in the last years over terrorism/money laundering/trafficking, that we will see more of this.
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There is a thread discussing this issue on reddit's Canadaguns sub, and user https://www.reddit.com/user/HapGil has stated that his is one of the rejected transfers. According to this user, his bank has indicated that Interac is responsible for the rejection.


See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns..._emt_blocking_firearms_related_email/dmoq7xs/
 
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