IPSC Oversight
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nice turn around
so can anyone help USP with his question
I suppose it is like the punch line of an old Italian joke referring to the Pope: "se non giocate il gioco non fate le regole". Loosely translated: " you no playa the game, you no makea the rules.
Don't forget this 35 page IDPA/CDPA/somethingDPA #####ing thread:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161375&page=34
We both have the same problems and attract similar personalities.
Fortunately, we have a majority of good people to put them in their place.
Opinions should be limited to those who believe the same as the [entitled] elite.
Anyone who has a dissenting opinion is by definition a low life who is not entitled.
Such persons should be barred from disseminating their contrary opinions so as to protect the innocent.
Sure. I really suck at it though.Hey, relliott, I love golf too! We should get together sometime after a match and go hit the links.
Vicious slice......
Well then let's try and be more accurate...
No one has ever been cast out...so wouldn't that make them "drop outs"
Let me put it this way:
I have in the past managed to hit a moving car, a non-moving house, myself in the thigh after hitting a tree on the fareway, torn the head clean off a 3 wood on a par 3 drive (divot created a momentary total eclipse), and "accidentally" hit an unexpectedly decent shot which landed INSIDE a guys golf bag while he was playing the green. I never in a million years expected it to go that far. Never got that ball back either.
Stil wanna play? Wear a helmet.......
I'm not sure if this really needs to be written because I'm not so sure that some of you will listen but.... then again, maybe some of you are the jerks that you are referring to.. a true jerk is the last one to know they are a jerk.
At a time like this when gun grabbing is the intent of our prov. gov't, does anyone think it is a good idea to run down or complain about any one particular discipline and push away potentially new shooters who read this thread but do not post in it? Oh and yes, I shoot IPSC and IDPA and CDP and I've shot PPC and I've shot skeet, trap, 3 gun, benchrest etc...
Is the current IPSC BB system perfect? NOPE. A returning shooter should be able to return after any number of years and shoot without the hassle of re-certifying, just produce a VALID Black Badge number and you should be GTG. The BB is proof of safety training, it is not proof of shooting ability. He/she should be scrutinized like all other shooters at a match and DQ'ed if necessary. Wathc him like he is a provisional shooter..then again, watch all shooters like they are provisional and we will be safe!
Do any of you have an idea of how we ensure that members shoot a required number of matches per year? How do we address this if the shooter lives in an area with a very limited number of matches or where distance to the nearest match is a factor?
I've had members of the Executive (past and present) piss me off too through some completely silly behaviours but in the end, the job got done and I, and others, were satisfied. No matter what discipline you are in, there will be politics (yes, even hockey, curling, marathon running). I just ignore the politics now and enjoy shooting and teaching.
Does Bud shoot? Who cares? Does he make sure that admin work gets done? Yes. The only issue I see is arbitrary decision making on HIS part at times and that is not cool. Anyone want to volunteer to do his job? NOT ME!!!
We could actually have a non-shooter perform many of the same functions that he does with the exception of NROI.
At a time like this when gun grabbing is the intent of our prov. gov't, does anyone think it is a good idea to run down or complain about any one particular discipline and push away potentially new shooters who read this thread but do not post in it? Oh and yes, I shoot IPSC and IDPA and CDP and I've shot PPC and I've shot skeet, trap, 3 gun, benchrest etc...
Is the current IPSC BB system perfect? NOPE. A returning shooter should be able to return after any number of years and shoot without the hassle of re-certifying, just produce a VALID Black Badge number and you should be GTG. The BB is proof of safety training, it is not proof of shooting ability. He/she should be scrutinized like all other shooters at a match and DQ'ed if necessary. Wathc him like he is a provisional shooter..then again, watch all shooters like they are provisional and we will be safe!
Do any of you have an idea of how we ensure that members shoot a required number of matches per year? How do we address this if the shooter lives in an area with a very limited number of matches or where distance to the nearest match is a factor?
I've had members of the Executive (past and present) piss me off too through some completely silly behaviours but in the end, the job got done and I, and others, were satisfied. No matter what discipline you are in, there will be politics (yes, even hockey, curling, marathon running). I just ignore the politics now and enjoy shooting and teaching.
Does Bud shoot? Who cares? Does he make sure that admin work gets done? Yes. The only issue I see is arbitrary decision making on HIS part at times and that is not cool. Anyone want to volunteer to do his job? NOT ME!!!
We could actually have a non-shooter perform many of the same functions that he does with the exception of NROI.
That my friend, is precisely the point. It's also a non-elected position, appointed by the RD. When the head of NROI can't be bothered to show up at the Nationals for years now, we have a problem.
Wow! I must have had a lucid moment...bring on the beer!
Alex, you make a good point about the Nationals. The head of NROI should be there if not in an official capacity, at least out of respect for the officials due to the office that he holds. I believe that a reasonable response to this is to ask him why he didn't go in order to determine his reasons which may have been very credible (i.e. his health, finances, other commitments, etc).
I've had my differences with him in the past too but I will say this... a couple of years ago I was ready to totally give up IPSC due to politics and I sent Bud and Quigley an email to that effect. They did all that they could to determine what the problem was AND to keep me in the sport. The only reason they did it was because they were aware that I was unhappy as a shooter.
I do believe that we need to have a back up in place regarding NROI and IPSC Ontario's admininstrative issues because, let's face it, he isn't going to be around forever (no one is). This could best be served with a volunteer and that volunteer does not actually need to be a competitor. Teh wuestion is: who has the time and desire to do it?
Alex, you make a good point about the Nationals. The head of NROI should be there if not in an official capacity, at least out of respect for the officials due to the office that he holds. I believe that a reasonable response to this is to ask him why he didn't go in order to determine his reasons which may have been very credible (i.e. his health, finances, other commitments, etc).
I've had my differences with him in the past too but I will say this... a couple of years ago I was ready to totally give up IPSC due to politics and I sent Bud and Quigley an email to that effect. They did all that they could to determine what the problem was AND to keep me in the sport. The only reason they did it was because they were aware that I was unhappy as a shooter.
I do believe that we need to have a back up in place regarding NROI and IPSC Ontario's admininstrative issues because, let's face it, he isn't going to be around forever (no one is). This could best be served with a volunteer and that volunteer does not actually need to be a competitor. Teh wuestion is: who has the time and desire to do it?
fack, Irritable People Squabbling Constantly.
As for golf, I play once a year and feel a golf course is a good rifle range ruined. I've broken a few clubs, sunk a golf cart in a pond, lost a ton of balls, hit people with my balls, wiped out a 6 pack in another squads golf cart off the T, and got nailed in the kidney from about 40 ft away by a buddy T'ing off. Pissed blood for 4 days after that one. IPSC is a far safer sport in my opinion! and more fun too (again my opinion).
As for golf, I play once a year and feel a golf course is a good rifle range ruined. I've broken a few clubs, sunk a golf cart in a pond, lost a ton of balls, hit people with my balls, wiped out a 6 pack in another squads golf cart off the T, and got nailed in the kidney from about 40 ft away by a buddy T'ing off. Pissed blood for 4 days after that one. IPSC is a far safer sport in my opinion! and more fun too (again my opinion).
Steve David
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Oshawa, Ontario
I agree, Golf sucks............!
Yeah, x2 what he said......
