MauserMike
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Gives me shivers every time I burn film with it LOL
Japanese rifles!
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Oh, please.
What a ridiculous post. Are you implying that civilian ownership of Arisakas will suddenly pave the way for a new rape of Nanking, this time in Canadian cities? Do you think that certain rifles turn people into murderous psychopaths whenever they pick them up? If so, I believe that Wendy Cukier would love to call you an ally. Be careful, though! She probably won't ban the Arisaka, at least at first. As for the "grow a pair" comment, what does this even mean? It sounds like you're calling anyone who owns an axis firearm less of a man. Absolutely asinine.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with owning firearms, be they Lee Enfields, Arisakas, or fricking Hi-Points. A firearm, which is an inanimate object, has no will. If we need to blame people for doing atrocious things, which the Japanese certainly made a habit of doing wherever they went, then perhaps we should lay the blame where it belongs - on the people.
I don't even own an Arisaka, or any axis rifles for that matter, but seriously. I have absolutely no problem with people who don't feel comfortable owning a Japanese or German rifle, but give the holier than thou "less of a man" crap a rest.
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Your blaming the people of Japan? That's a little racist. So your using the cheech & Chong theory.
"Guns don't kill people, cops kill people" quoting Sleepy Rodriguez from "still smokin"
That is idiotic. The Japanese designed there weapons and decorated them in a way to make their soldiers turn into savages. They succeeded in every way. They made the rifles extra long like spears and put an extra long toad sticker on them. They would rather stick someone than shoot them. What other country ran around with samurai swords. I didn't see England dragging broad swords around. The point is the good guys are not into cutting off heads like the evil empire of Japan.
These CHNers are right.
Uh... EVERY major WW1 and WW2 combatant issued bayonets with their infantry rifles. The Ariska Type 99 with bayonet is about 1cm longer than an SMLE with a bayonet attached. No significant length difference. Also, ALL major armies, to this day, still use swords for various things. The British, in WW1, still issued them to officers and NCOs for combat purposes - though many ditched them as the war progressed as not being practical in a trench.
The mum was not intended to turn anyone savage - it's an imperial ownership marking, nothing more. No more so than the Royal Ciper on an SMLE.
That's exactly my point. How much of human suffering today is a result of something that someone's grand daddy did to someone else's grand daddy? Take it as a metaphor, or literally. It's being displayed right here. None of you were at Nanking or Hong Kong, or where ever, and yet post rubbish towards anyone who doesn't support your jaded world view. Lovely.
Break the cycle or get trapped by it.
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MauserMike
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These GIs must have turned coats to the Japanese side LOL
Please re-read my post.
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HUH?
I think we've strayed a bit here. If you fellas don't want to own arisakas, don't buy any. Problem solved! Personally, I find war trophies fascinating and will continue to seek them out. And no, I'm no a Japanophile or whatever the term was. Though I did try Sake once.
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You know what? There's [at least] three ways to collect historical weapons. One is neutral: I have this gun and it's a gun like any other gun, except it has certain features which make it unique. One is glorifying: what a perfect specimen of the deadly arts; we shall rise again. Last is demoralizing: this is the weapon of a defeated enemy; we won, suckers.
For instance, not everyone who collects Hackenkreuzen is an avowed Fourth Reicher. Frankly the only ones of that ilk which *I* would buy are those which have been purposely defaced as trophies from a fallen enemy.
I'm very surprised nobody has turned pink with some of the statements being tossed around. The brutality and lack of individual thought in the Japanese Empire is documented, but some have been pretty rude.
For instance, not everyone who collects Hackenkreuzen is an avowed Fourth Reicher. Frankly the only ones of that ilk which *I* would buy are those which have been purposely defaced as trophies from a fallen enemy.
I'm very surprised nobody has turned pink with some of the statements being tossed around. The brutality and lack of individual thought in the Japanese Empire is documented, but some have been pretty rude.
Quoted from this thread: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/958274-If-it-was-1914/page2
Seems more appropriate here.
Seems more appropriate here.
What a fail thread, started by someone I still maintain ought to be banned as a troll. As if the Japanese are the only ones to ever commit atrocities in combat, and that the actions and emotion of humans somehow imparts an incorporeal malevolence on the tools used. Please.
AK: It's not a "malevolence". I think most of us are sufficiently intelligent to understand that firearms are simply tools; they have no volition of their own whatsoever, no malevolence, no benevolence either.
They simply ARE.
At one time or another, I have owned more than 400 firearms. I have handled many times that. I have encountered only THREE which were distasteful to handle, of which I own two.
HUMANS are thinking and feeling mechanisms..... and the thinking and feeling is electronic in nature. Iron is very sensitive to magnetic fields.
You need to sit down and talk with a REAL psychic, not one of the sideshow variety.
Or a priest. They know a lot about these things, too. Remember, even Jesus cast out evil.
I say no more.
They simply ARE.
At one time or another, I have owned more than 400 firearms. I have handled many times that. I have encountered only THREE which were distasteful to handle, of which I own two.
HUMANS are thinking and feeling mechanisms..... and the thinking and feeling is electronic in nature. Iron is very sensitive to magnetic fields.
You need to sit down and talk with a REAL psychic, not one of the sideshow variety.
Or a priest. They know a lot about these things, too. Remember, even Jesus cast out evil.
I say no more.
Well said Smellie.
Samurai swords used by the Japanese Imperial forces just creep the sh1t out of me. I will not have one in my house, and not because I think it "haunted" by the souls of the vanquished or anything close to that train of thought. It would simply creep me out.
When I hold my No1MkIII, I think to myself did it kill? When I fix the bayonet, I think to myself did a young lad trembling with fear fix this bayonet to this rifle before the order to "go over the top" was sounded? Did he kill with this 100 years ago? This rifle doesn't give me the creeps in the slightest though, I oil and wax it often...This was a tool for the defence of "King and Country" and if it killed, it did so humanely and out of necessity.{in my mind anyhow...only gawd knows for sure}
The Samurai sword is different {again, in my mind}. Did it kill? Check, most certainly. How many times? Several, most certainly. Humanely? out of necessity? Most likely not. Out of perversion? Quite possibly=creepy as creepy gets, which ='s get it away from me. I want no part of it.
That's just me, I don't/won't collect Nazi stuff for similar reasons. I would never criticize someone who does because I understand the milsurp bug, just something's aren't my cup of tea...and then there's others that I find creepy.
Samurai swords used by the Japanese Imperial forces just creep the sh1t out of me. I will not have one in my house, and not because I think it "haunted" by the souls of the vanquished or anything close to that train of thought. It would simply creep me out.
When I hold my No1MkIII, I think to myself did it kill? When I fix the bayonet, I think to myself did a young lad trembling with fear fix this bayonet to this rifle before the order to "go over the top" was sounded? Did he kill with this 100 years ago? This rifle doesn't give me the creeps in the slightest though, I oil and wax it often...This was a tool for the defence of "King and Country" and if it killed, it did so humanely and out of necessity.{in my mind anyhow...only gawd knows for sure}
The Samurai sword is different {again, in my mind}. Did it kill? Check, most certainly. How many times? Several, most certainly. Humanely? out of necessity? Most likely not. Out of perversion? Quite possibly=creepy as creepy gets, which ='s get it away from me. I want no part of it.
That's just me, I don't/won't collect Nazi stuff for similar reasons. I would never criticize someone who does because I understand the milsurp bug, just something's aren't my cup of tea...and then there's others that I find creepy.
