Josh Bowmar SPEARS GIANT BEAR On The Ground - Alberta Canada

Ardent said:
How about a collection of pics of your harvested game there boss man, that'll shut up the naysayers and prove your hunting prowess like nothing else. Coyotes and grouse don't count to be clear.
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Okay, there it is...proof! I've begun to think that we were all arguing with a 12-year-old girl ("OMG Seriously?"), because in my experience there is nothing quite so exasperating as a 12-year-old girl. But this proves it. Ardent...who has always seemed to me to be one of the most easy-going guys on here, with a fuse a mile long...Ardent...who in the past has posted on threads similar to this in the most polite, patient, non-condescending manner imaginable, while I am ready to throw my computer through a window...ARDENT...seems to have a little edge of impatience in the tone of his reply here!

I'm not sure if I should be amused, disappointed, or relieved! :)
 
Based on the condition that bear was found in it could have possibly been dead before it hit the ground. That's assuming no one was telling fibs about where & how they found it...
 
Seems pretty obvious that spear hunting is human heritage. Not everyone has to agree with every type of hunting. Hunters who shame this guy and agree to ban spear hunting, shouldn't be surprised when there standing alone when they go after bows or firearms and hunting in general. All hunters should stick together, as oppose to judging spear hunters or bow hunters the same way many people view hunting in general.
 
Ardent said:
How about a collection of pics of your harvested game there boss man, that'll shut up the naysayers and prove your hunting prowess like nothing else. Coyotes and grouse don't count to be clear.
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I'd actually take a grouse or yote at this point.......

In his defense, if he is a hunter which I doubt, I had some similar views when I first joined the forum 5 years ago...... It took the time to read member posts, see what had been done and the work that went into it to truly understand the principles...... My bow sits idle because I don't have the time to practice and make what I consider an ethical kill.....

That being said, anyone who thinks the right thing to do after shooting a big game animal is to simply walk up to it and finish it off with a follow up is either inexperienced or is preaching from their posterior......
 
It was legal so it was his right to hunt in this manner, but it would be helpful to all hunters if we as hunters would stop posting this #### on youtube
 
DANCESWITHEMPTIES said:
Agreed. Not trying to come to any hard conclusion. And as mentioned before by another poster, not sure if the guy in the vid has a clue or not. But I am starting to question if rigor can set in and diminish that quickly? IMO: It looked like a quick kill & with penetration as deep as claimed it would support that, even if the shot was aft of a 'boiler room' shot.

Any idea what the average temps would be in the Swan Hills area that time of year?
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No, I have no idea. I would be reluctant to believe it died in the late evening daylight, rigor set in over 3-4 hours and then disappeared in less than 12 hours(or before morning) but I am out on a limb here as I have no specific temperatures, times, etc.

So I guess in fairness and sportsmanship I have to go with his statement.

I have seen photos that were supposedely taken soon after a yote was taken by rifle that had a serious case or rigor that made me wonder about the accuracy of the story but what the heck.....
 
MikeinCalgary said:
According to the news I just read, he found it the next day.
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Yep that's what story said, but that doesn't mean it did or didn't die before it dropped. Only that they looked for it the next morning. And I have been involved in that kind of situation before as well. Of course I wasn't the shooter, as that moose would have had the sense enough to die in the back of my pick up... (Best Barney Fife swagger & smile I can come up with!)
 
So if the government decides to ban spear hunting in Alberta, who does the ban apply to? Would an aboriginal person lose the right to traditionally hunt with a spear in Alberta?
 
Heck, you gotta hunt with me.

Once they hear me coming to my area they typically just wait in front of the blind/stand in a praying position and just let me do my thing, they know they don't have a chance. ;)

On a more serious note.Less internet/TV/Social media , more shooting and hunting.That is the problem with anti,anti , anti type, too much time on their hands.

jjohnwm said:
Of course you take a finishing shot, or two or more, if the animal goes down on the spot. This one...like many...did not. It ran off into the bush and was lost to sight almost immediately, so the ethical thing to do is to wait, as has been explained so patiently, so many times now.

You've been watching too much TV. Critters (including people) rarely just flop over dead the instant a bullet strikes. It does happen, and it is greatly to be appreciated and hoped for, but it's not usually the case.
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as a hunter I support this guy. Is this my preferred weapon of dropping game? No, but he hasn't done anything wrong just upset people, likely 75% of the people who are upset about this didn't even know this was going on until now, and besides I doubt anyone on this forum would have the same skill level and experience as this guy did.
 
I don't know, Angus...I can't see this working out for you. You hire him now, you expect to utilize his knowledge and experience during the upcoming hunting season...and then next month school starts up and he becomes unavailable.
 
I just don't get why so much attention is given to a bear when we have the issues going on in this country that we do.

That being said, I will start a gofundme page for the bears family to cover hibernation costs and introduce more berries for the spring time thaw to increase food supply.

Murders, stabbing, crime, theft , all local news.One guy kills a bear it makes National news.

How about the poor wildlife hit by vehicles, if we all walked this would not happen.

Ok, I want to go back to my cave now.
 
"When hunting big game an ethical hunter will always attempt to get close enough to his quarry to ensure a quick, clean kill." - The kill was quick and clean

"He realizes that in doing so , his quarry may discover him and escape before he has the chance to take the shot. But he always gives his quarry a sporting chance" - He was 10 feet away with a spear...doesn't get more sporting than that.

"Through considerable practice before a hunt, he will learn the distance at which he can be most confident of killing game cleanly" - He must have practiced a lot, as the kill was clean.

"Once afield, he will expend extraordinary effort to retrieve and dispatch wounded game- even if it means interrupting his hunting to help another hunter locate a wounded animal" - It's a very good thing that he did retrieve his game.

"An ethical hunter shows as much respect for his game after it is taken as before he shoots it" - Didn't see any disrespect. Maybe if he'd desecrated the body or something...

"To ensure game is killed quickly and humanely, every hunter must know the vital areas of his quarry. He must develop the skills necessary to ensure his shot hits one of these areas:Heart,blood vessels, spine, brain, lungs" - Must have hit something vital, as the bear only went 60 yards :)

So please try to post something that supports your position and negates our claims if you're going to argue with us Mr. Big Boss Man.
 
rem31 said:
You would think that the immediate negative reaction from over 200,000 members of the general public would be a wake up call to this supposed hunter and the knuckle draggers who support him. Most hunters are not thrill seekers out to prove something and those of us who have worked hard to promote safe, ethical and humane hunting practices are just as appalled by such stunts as the non hunting public. Tell this jackass and like minded individuals to go get a job in a slaughterhouse to get their kicks and come back if and when they ever grow up.
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rem31 said:
All Muslims aren't terrorists, all priests aren't pedophiles and all hunters aren't sociopaths who get their jollies trying to prove something by selfish and inhumane acts.
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hoytcanon said:
How do you "hunt???"

What do you hunt???

What is your weapon of choice???
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rem31... I noticed that you have avoided answering these questions...
 
TDizzle said:
"When hunting big game an ethical hunter will always attempt to get close enough to his quarry to ensure a quick, clean kill." - The kill was quick and clean

"He realizes that in doing so , his quarry may discover him and escape before he has the chance to take the shot. But he always gives his quarry a sporting chance" - He was 10 feet away with a spear...doesn't get more sporting than that.

"Through considerable practice before a hunt, he will learn the distance at which he can be most confident of killing game cleanly" - He must have practiced a lot, as the kill was clean.

"Once afield, he will expend extraordinary effort to retrieve and dispatch wounded game- even if it means interrupting his hunting to help another hunter locate a wounded animal" - It's a very good thing that he did retrieve his game.

"An ethical hunter shows as much respect for his game after it is taken as before he shoots it" - Didn't see any disrespect. Maybe if he'd desecrated the body or something...

"To ensure game is killed quickly and humanely, every hunter must know the vital areas of his quarry. He must develop the skills necessary to ensure his shot hits one of these areas:Heart,blood vessels, spine, brain, lungs" - Must have hit something vital, as the bear only went 60 yards :)

So please try to post something that supports your position and negates our claims if you're going to argue with us Mr. Big Boss Man.
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THIS! Well said.
 
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