K98 Sniper Clone, Looking for build advice!

Here's my clone.
It is a CE44 that was already drilled and tapped for the LSR mount and luckily the repro mount fitted with no drama apart for a very small amount of wood that needed shaving off!
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The scope is a 50's Hensoldt Wetzler Dialytan 4 power from the chap that was mentioned earlier in the thread (Germansniper) and it is a cracking bit of kit for the money. I had to remove the inbuilt dovetail from the underside of the scope and bore out the rings to suit the oversize scope body but I am pleased with the results. It gets regular outings at my local range and against figure 11 pop-up targets out to 1000 yards on our local military training area. Also had to replace the lazy mainspring for a wolf spring as the Yugo 55 surplus that I have loads of often needed a couple of taps to go off but have kept the original spring. I now reload for the rifle and it can be surprisingly accurate when I do my bit!
Sorry for the rubbish pic but it was from my old phone.
 
Silfield - Nice Rifle.

When you meant the rifle was pre-drilled/tapped for the LSR - was it an original LSR receiver with the mount/scope missing? Or did someone else restore it?

Easy way to know is was the left side flat/thickwalled or was it rounded?

Regards
 
gaff said:
the chance of getting a Original military scope for a good price is slim . there are lots of German 1930's and 40's hunting scopes for very good prices.
Czech and Austrian scopes are also good.
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There was a Zeiss Zeilvier on the EE a few weeks back for $400. with a SN in the WWII military range, IRRC.
 
bnzmauser said:
Silfield - Nice Rifle.

When you meant the rifle was pre-drilled/tapped for the LSR - was it an original LSR receiver with the mount/scope missing? Or did someone else restore it?

Easy way to know is was the left side flat/thickwalled or was it rounded?

Regards
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Hello bnz,
That is the $64,000 question! The CE44 was already drilled and tapped when I brought it and it looked like it had just come out of the Russian storage as it was thick with cosmoline (so much so that the bore was solid and the action would not operate as it was so thickly caked on) but it has the standard wall thickness on the action! I have no idea when the LSR mount was originally fitted but just thankful that the holes on the repro mount lined up.
 
RRCo. said:
There was a Zeiss Zeilvier on the EE a few weeks back for $400. with a SN in the WWII military range, IRRC.
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I actually just scored a mint Zeiss Zeilvier from "Germansniper1". The serial is dated from the late 30s (40,000). Perfect for my Ordinance assembled low turret clone. I payed a bit over $400, but is has no solder, rings, or rails on it what so ever.

All I need now is low turret mounts, a repo 1000m BDC dial, and a bubba'd or sporterized pre-1941 rifle from any manufacturer.
 
Silfield said:
Hello bnz,
That is the $64,000 question! The CE44 was already drilled and tapped when I brought it and it looked like it had just come out of the Russian storage as it was thick with cosmoline (so much so that the bore was solid and the action would not operate as it was so thickly caked on) but it has the standard wall thickness on the action! I have no idea when the LSR mount was originally fitted but just thankful that the holes on the repro mount lined up.
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Most likely a SSR. They made them till the end of the war and the hole pattern in the same on both the SSR and LSR.
 
Very cool rifle nevertheless.

I know there have been a few legit zf41 Russian Captured K98's appear here in Canada. So it would make sense that other types of snipers would show up as well.

I know that agentcq has VOPO bcd4 that was originally a unfinished LSR sniper or the scope base/mount was lost, and his SSR (CE) was an import out of the Middle East to the USA and it still had the mount base.

So legit snipers do turn up in captured weapons piles.
 
BeaverMeat said:
I actually just scored a mint Zeiss Zeilvier from "Germansniper1". The serial is dated from the late 30s (40,000). Perfect for my Ordinance assembled low turret clone. I payed a bit over $400, but is has no solder, rings, or rails on it what so ever.

All I need now is low turret mounts, a repo 1000m BDC dial, and a bubba'd or sporterized pre-1941 rifle from any manufacturer.
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Hahaha probably ended up bidding on the same item!
 
I know the low turret mounts are the most correct for my 1939 code 42 rifle. However I'm not sure about going the closed ring route. In the split rings it's mostly the high turrets available. Sarco does have a split ring low turret but these look more cast then the Accumounts set.
 
CanukMauser said:
I know the low turret mounts are the most correct for my 1939 code 42 rifle. However I'm not sure about going the closed ring route. In the split rings it's mostly the high turrets available. Sarco does have a split ring low turret but these look more cast then the Accumounts set.
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Short side rails are also correct.

The only exact replicas of low turret mounts I have been able to find are located in France... Might be the ones made in Austria. The price is the same at $500.

Going with split ring is half-assign it IMHO. It makes it a bubba, not a clone. Yes, I'm that kind of guy. All or nothing :)

Your K98 will go good with my Zeilvier... want to make some money? Lol
 
Robert Spielauer in Austria could make you a set as back in 1995-98 (Just when the internet was kind of starting up, I might even have a pic of the Sarco ad on their website saved), I believe he was making all the high quality German repro WW2 mounts for Sarco in New Jersey at the time.
They (LT, HT) even sold for $600-700 USD back then when the exchange on the dollar was about 1.38, so add that on too!
Sarco sold every type of mount for the K98 and G43, even the swept back mount. Every type of Claw mount, SSR, LSR, etc....

CanukMauser said:
I know the low turret mounts are the most correct for my 1939 code 42 rifle. However I'm not sure about going the closed ring route. In the split rings it's mostly the high turrets available. Sarco does have a split ring low turret but these look more cast then the Accumounts set.
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I did e-mail Robert but have had no answer yet.

I already have a Zielvier myself that I picked up online. Got the focus to work on it nicely now so we are all set. My k98 is a total mix master of parts. Only the barrel and receiver match numbers but she shoots good so I've always wanted a proper sniper rig.

I wasn't sure about the SSR. I couldn't find the production history for them. My scope is a late 20's from what I read on serial numbers so it should be pretty accurate for correctness.

Anyone have good info on the SSR I can read?
 
Senich has a good book called "German Sniper" with a entire chapter on the SSR.\
Law also discusses them in Vol II in his sniper book.\
Robert also has a Vol II but his book is mostly pics of about 3-5 SSR rifles.\
Some examples and info on k98kforum. I am sure their second book will have a discussion on the SSR, Kriegsmodel had a very fine look at the LSR with detailed colour pics.
 
I also see their are 2 versions of the SSE. The earlier type 2 and the type 3. Looks like the type 3 has a wing nu to help lock things up?

Not sure if this mean anything problematic for the type 2?
 
CanukMauser said:
I did e-mail Robert but have had no answer yet.
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How long ago was that? I purchased something on his website and sent emails and messages to his eBay account. All in a two week duration and no answer.

As for the SSR... the screws losen over time with 8x57 recoil. AFAIK they work fine on 6.5x55 and 7x57 chambered rifles.
 
I know the one company on EBay from China that sells a decent soldered set of turret mounts will solder a scope that you send.
I don't know if I would trust a dealer that much but if it worked it would be much cheaper.
 
Meh... I don't like to do things "cheap", because you get what you pay for. Buy cheap, buy twice. And I don't want to treat my German K98 with Chinese optics. If there is anything worth doing, it's worth doing right.
 
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