KAC SR-15 or DD M4?

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Picking up an AR in the near future, and I just can't seem to choose between these two. Originally had my heart set on the KAC, but the DD actually made me question that as it's $1400 cheaper, a little lighter, and the specs are on par. I don't expect the SR-15 to perform better than the DD in any way...so could you justify $1400 for a proprietary/improved bolt, and "the name"? I keep flip flopping on this one, need CGNers input!

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I just recently bought the new DDM4V7 with the lightweight barrel, and I own the older model too. I love both my rifles. The new V7 I have is lighter than my older model V7 even with the full length hand guard. It balances very nicely.
The way I see it, if you have the budget to buy a KAC, you can buy the DD M4V7 and still have the money that would make up the difference to spend on accessories or an optic or another gun you've got your eyes on.
 
The KAC has a proprietory bolt design, has a 2 stage slightly lighten trigger and is ambi from the get go.
It's also a KAC!!
KAC and Noveske are at the top echelon of direct impingement ARs.
DD, LMT, VLTOR and Colt would be the next level.
If you decide the difference is worth $1400, get the KAC. If not, absolutely nothing wrong with a DD!

Be glad you have this option! And not another Norinco vs Hi Standard vs NEA thing again!
 
What's your intended purpose for this rifle? Games gun? SERIOUS training? What's going to be your average round count per year?

If it's going to be a once a month range gun, that sees less than 3000-5000 rounds a year, or something you're going to use for 3 gun, you'd probably be suited for the DD as its lighter, and will do just fine in every aspect. It'll be just as fine if your plan on shooting more than that.

If you're going to be putting 15000 rounds down range a year, going to training classes, essentially gettin down and dirty with the gun and getting it all kinds of Canadian f**cked up, go with the KAC. The SR-15, in my opinion, only shines when you use it as it was intended. As a tool.

The SR-15 is worth the additional 1400 in every aspect, if you need it or require it, but it will not make you a better shooter. Although you might get some brownie points for range cool, or on Instagram (if that's your gig). I would spend some time and clarify what you plan on doing with this rifle. All look-cool-factor, and "proprietary designs" aside, what you want to do with it will dictate which rifle you should purchase far more efficiently than most anyone's opinions.
 
if you have the funds SR15 would be my choice, barrels, ambi controls, 2 stage trigger and Knights impecable QC. yeah the DD is not bad as well for the buck but like I said if you have the $$$$ Knights would be the choice. I used to own a Knights still regret selling it even though its not as cool as current Knights but its one of teh best I've owned
 
First, you've made it clear it clear both rifles will suit your level of shooting. So to me, it comes down to pricing. Save cash and but accessories for an already kick ass rifle (DD). or tie up an extra $1400 in a rifle you are only buying for the brand name (because any difference between the two is negligible to you).

Second, when you ask opinions such as this (And I mean no insult to others) look at who actually owns the rifle rather than listen to what people think because of marketing.

Daniel Defense suits me just fine. It's a proven top tier rifle. Is at a reasonable price point, and the quality is astounding.

I've actually been to the DD plant in Black Creek. The effort of their team shows how much pride they have for their rifle.

Marty Daniel also does not allow imperfections, blemishes, or out of spec "seconds" in the market so that anyone who buys DD buys only their quality.

To me, that means a lot and why I have three DDM4's

hope that helps.
 
Personally, I would go with the DD. Not because there is anything wrong with the KAC, but you save $1400. With that $1400, you could get a Geissele G2S trigger (same as the SSA, but cheaper), Magpul BUIS pro and still have roughly $1k left over for additional accessories, optics and ammo. Plus at that point, your rifle would essentially be equal to the KAC at that point minus the ambi controls.

Furthermore, because the DD is mil-spec, any aftermarket accessories will work, should you want to change the barrel or BCG in the future.
 
I got my KAC for 2000 USD when the dollars were at parity. It is an awesome rifle but I would not pay 3000 for one like they are going for now.

It started life as a SR-15 Mod 1.

 
I own an SR-15 and an SR-25.
Unless you need the ambi controls or have money burning a hole in your pocket, go with the Danial Defence - regardless of use, competition, round count, etc.
 
colt canada for accuracy or kac for extreme satisfaction, or even get a kac with a stainless barrel for the best of everything!

(I really like the kac sopmod stock)
 
You might also want to look at LMT rifles. I believe Questar has a bunch in stock last time I looked at their site. Probably a step closer to KAC quality. Can probably find one with the 2 stage match trigger and then all that is left is the hand guard to upgrade.
 
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You might also want to look at LMT rifles. I believe Questar has a bunch in stock last time I looked at their site. Probably a step closer to KAC quality. Can probably find one with the 2 stage match trigger and then all that is left is the hand guard to upgrade.
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Yeah LMT always gets overlooked this days.
 
Thanks for all the replies so far. Being ambidextrous is not a make/break thing for me, but it's a bonus. My intended use is a typical restricted range gun. That said, regardless of what gun I am considering, I have no problem paying for quality, and generally own the top quality guns I can afford, as opposed to owning more guns of a lower quality. The DD is ~$2200 out the door, and the KAC is around $3700 all-in at this time. For $1500 difference, I can add a T2, furniture to my taste, and even have a look at aftermarket triggers for the DD. This is compounded by the fact that DD uses nothing but top shelf materials (7075 upper, lower, buffer tube) which give nothing away to KAC in metallurgy...and may even surpass them in certain areas.

However, like a Ferrari 458 vs Nissan GTR head-to-head, value per dollar alone doesn't decide a winner. Which one would you rather have in your driveway...
 
I have been very pleased with my DDM4 V4 SBR 11.5 for all except one thing: The A2 grip appears to be out of line with the upper receivers by a few milliliters and the aftermarket grips I have tried were a real pain to fit and then would leave a gap between the grip and the trigger guard. I have researched the issue and it appears to have been out of spec grip holes in the lower and DD fixed the issue on newer models (my DD is a 2013 production). That being said, I did install a URX rail on it...
 
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