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There are often posts asking about getting a lathe. There is an interesting one on Kijiji which might be excellent for home workshop use.
It is an Austrian made Maximat 10. It incorporates a vertical mill - but is quite a different machine than the current Oriental import combis.
Not cheap - $3995. In Ottawa.
 
Sounds like it is new?!?

Kinda small isn't it for a good gunsmith lathe??


This made me laugh

" These are at our 2005 purchase prices after the machine was bought and put in storage when prototyping and building plans changed and the machine went right into storage without use. We have no interest in a lower offer to save yourself the trip out to inspect. We have to spell this out as we have been “haunted” by teenage boys playing on the family computer in their underwear in their parents basement. If you cannot afford it, then go ask your parents! :eek:). Seriously, if you can get a better price elsewhere, then you clearly don't need us."
 
The Maxximat is a trifle small for doing barrel work out between centers even for the version with the longer bed. And the thru hole in the headstock doesn't look all that large but the size isn't leaping out at me.

So all in all a decent machine for smaller work but it would be limited or not able to do a full scope of barrel work.
 
Yes, a little small for a lot of barrel work. Still, a Maximat is a serious smaller lathe.
My Standard Modern is 13x40, and it is good for most barrel work, although its spindle bore is just shy of 1 1/2". There have been times when larger would have been better.
 
If you're patient you can get awesome deals, but you have to be quick.

I bought my 13x40 last year with all the tooling, in good condition for $1600. When I called the guy I had 2 questions and after he told me all about the lathe I told him I was taking it I was gonna EMT the money right away without seeing the lathe in person. It was on Kijiji for about an hour and already over 40 replies.

Keep an eye open
 
I'll be buying a lathe, and most likely a knee mill in a few weeks to a month or so. Tooling it comes with will decide on the amount I am willing to spend as I don't want to drop $10K on a machine or two, then have to spend that much again on tooling because the machine came bare. It's the accessories and tooling that will run you into the red real quick, lol.

Hoping to find a good deal on a heavy 14"-16" 40-50" c2c lathe that can do both SAE and metric. No benchtop hobby type stuff.

This maximat is just a tad too small and light for my needs.
 
Cleftwynd, I hope the market for used machines is better in Ontario than it is out west. Out this way there seems to be way more old retired guys looking for machines than those that are selling such things. When such machines do come up for sale locally they don't stay for sale long at all if the price is at all attractive.

But with you being in a province with a larger manufacturing base it may prove to be easier to find a machine and tooling for a lower cost. Best of luck with the hunting.
 
Thanks BCRider, however I am closer to Calgary than I am to Toronto.... Winnipeg is 4 hours away, Calgary about 18, TO is about 21 lol.
 
Really good deals can be had though. I picked up a 1939 Clausing Dual 12x36 on kijiji last September for $1100. It came with almost all of the factory accessories and options including threading dial, auto cross feed, steady rest, 3&4 jaw chucks, spindle drill chuck, tail stock tools of all kinds, boring bars, knurling tools, cut off tools, cabinets, bench grinder/wire wheel, spare set of cross feed gears, full set of change gears, and at least a few thousand dollars in Starrett tools. It also came with a pile of vintage cutting tools, holders and blanks. The ways have no appreciable wear(hand scraping marks still clearly visible) and the paint is original and like new. The only downsides are the 0.90" spindle bore and the single leg banjo (can't compound the gears to get the 3tpi thread I need to re barrel Rosses on 1905 actions). So keep your eyes open, the deals are out there.
 
Cleftwynd said:
I'll be buying a lathe, and most likely a knee mill in a few weeks to a month or so. Tooling it comes with will decide on the amount I am willing to spend as I don't want to drop $10K on a machine or two, then have to spend that much again on tooling because the machine came bare. It's the accessories and tooling that will run you into the red real quick, lol.

Hoping to find a good deal on a heavy 14"-16" 40-50" c2c lathe that can do both SAE and metric. No benchtop hobby type stuff.

This maximat is just a tad too small and light for my needs.
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You are shopping in a size range that is too heavy for most hobby guys, and that drives the price down a bit.

I would suggest that you keep an eye out south of the Border. Price differences that I have seen, have been such that trucking, taxes, brokerage, etc., all still add up to a better buy than buying locally, at times.

I have a 13x40 Colchester in the shed that I am working towards reactivating, switching out the 550v motor for a 220, and adding a VFD to control the speed. Will have to sort out the coolant pump too, eventually. That is about as big a lathe as I am looking for. I have an 11x20 or so Emco Super 11 that will take 1 3/8' through the spindle bore, as well as my Myford Super 7 with it's little bitty 5/8" spindle....and a WW pattern watchmakers lathe...<sigh> My name is Trevor, and I have a lathe problem....:)

Take a good look at the Mazak manual lathes. I think they would be right about what you are looking for. IIRC, there was a licensed copy made in Korea that is every bit as good and durable, as well as at least one outfit in the US (I think, Summit tools) selling a bunch of really well made clones. Worth digging around a bit on Practicalmachinist, among other places. Thing to know is that most folks don't recognize the name or associate it with a decent quality machine, so the demand is lower. Sometimes...:)

Have seen far better deals on manual mills south of the line too.

I have watched the stuff in Ontario come and go on Kijiji and craigslist over the years and there have been some pretty decent machines listed off and on. Try using Searchtempest to search through the craigslist entries over a wider area. Kijiji at least lets you search an entire province's listings at one go.

Cheers
Trev
 
Don't waste your time converting to single phase , lathe won't have any balls. Get phase converter and don't look back.
 
Cleftwynd said:
I'll be buying a lathe, and most likely a knee mill in a few weeks to a month or so. Tooling it comes with will decide on the amount I am willing to spend as I don't want to drop $10K on a machine or two, then have to spend that much again on tooling because the machine came bare. It's the accessories and tooling that will run you into the red real quick, lol.

Hoping to find a good deal on a heavy 14"-16" 40-50" c2c lathe that can do both SAE and metric. No benchtop hobby type stuff.

This maximat is just a tad too small and light for my needs.
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Cleftwynd, getting a decent lathe isn't that difficult if you have the money. What is difficult is having a good place to set the lathe and milling machine on. A good concrete floor is a must. My original lathe was in my old shop and I had built a special laminated floor out of Oak 2x6 boards I had salvaged from machinery pallets. They were all 14 footers and luckily bone dry. They sat around a warehouse on racks for over five years until I was told to take them out and burn them. I cheated and after getting a pass signed took them home. There were close to a hundred of them and they were all White Oak. Enough for a decent floor for the lathe and a decent work bench. The boards were glued and clamped together then had a couple of pieces of one inch Marine Birch plywood screwed/glued onto them for a flat smooth surface. As good as this sounds, it wasn't as good as concrete. There was a 2 inch Fir floor on top of 2x12 Fir floor joists on 12 inch centers under the laminated floor the lathe sat on. It was OK but there was still vibration and it caused the lathe to move a bit. Not much but enough to screw up the level a bit. Never seemed to cause an accuracy issue but it was irritating.
 
Cleftwynd said:
Thanks BCRider, however I am closer to Calgary than I am to Toronto.... Winnipeg is 4 hours away, Calgary about 18, TO is about 21 lol.
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Back in 2009 when I was looking for my second lathe and milling machine, Calgary was a hot spot for really nice used machines that had been put through a thorough repair. I can't remember the name of the outfit but they specialize in machinist equipment from small to huge. With the oil patch being sluggish they likely have plenty of decent units in the sizes that are best for you.

I would definitely recommend a lathe with at least a 1 3/4 or better yet a 2 in spindle hole. Also one with the outside end threaded for a spider assembly to true up long pieces that you will be clamping in the chuck but not centering on the tail stock. A nice long bed is nice for turning between centers as mentioned. My bigger lathe has a 42in bed and at least six more inches would be better. especially if you want to make up a 30in match barrel.
 
No worries about the shop floor, when I poured it I went WAY overkill on thickness, rebar, and concrete grade.

If you think of the name of that dealer send me a note!!!
 
Thanks Mr YogiStalker!!

I have had their site saved for a few years, talked to them a while back on a graziano but it was sold by the time I called. I'll keep an eye open.
 
I've had a really great experience with the Southbend lathes. My "go to" lathe is a 1941 Southbend 9A in 3 phase.

The only issue is that I often have to thread out by the tailstock as my spindle hole is smaller than I'd like (7/8").

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If I was buying another lathe, I'd look for a nice SB 10L as they are small enough for hobbyist use, large enough to most gunsmithing jobs, and they have a 1,3/8" spindle bore, which is plenty.

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