Let's see some pic's of your SxS's & O/U's

OK, that's all I needed. Bourne is a market town in the South Kesteven district of Lincolnshire, England. FJ Clarke was a general merchant there. The following information was published in The Local newspaper (in Bourne) on 24th March 2017, article by Rex Needle:

One of the busiest shops in past times was that which sold household necessities, the everyday items required for domestic efficiency, and here in Bourne during the early years of the 20th century we had Johnson Brothers who occupied the premises at the corner of West Street and South Street, dealing in hardware, ironmongery and agricultural implements.

Staff would arrive early in the morning to create an impressive display of goods on offer across the frontage of the building which was soon adorned with samples of their pots and pans, basins and bowls, cutlery and crockery, brushes, forks and spades, everything required for the smooth running of house and garden and as a result, business was always brisk with a steady stream of customers most days.

The shop was originally owned during the 19th century by Henry Osborn and later by F J Clarke whose stock was so extensive that he also sold ploughs, guns, iron bedsteads and kitchen ranges. By 1905, the business was being run by Johnson Brothers and the now familiar firm of Harrison & Dunn took over from them in 1945 and remained in occupation until 2012 when they moved to their present location in North Street and the building is now occupied by a carpet retailer, having been used as a hardware shop for more than 160 years.


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The photo dates from 1920.

I don't think the Henry Osborn mentioned is one of the gunmaking Osborn family. Now you know where your gun was sold!
 
I wonder who made the Gun?

Could be made at any one of literally hundreds of Birmingham work benches by craftsmen producing for 'the trade,' or from a larger-volume maker, or from one of several cooperatives of gunmakers, set up to produce guns in quantity for sale by general merchants. Unless there are other marks, initials etc in addition to the proofs, it is not possible to work out its origins (and even with such marks, one has to be very lucky to decipher them). Pre-1905 gunmaking in Britain was very de-centralized. The name on the rib or lock plate was only occasionally the person who made the gun! More often than not, guns passed through quite a few hands before ending up at a gunmaker's shop or other retail establishment.

At least you now have a specific geographic point that your gun passed through, and rough dates. How it got from there to your hands could be quite a tale...
 
Nice old double. I have a single shot underlever 12 gauge. It has Clarke on the lock. The top of the breech is marked Clarke and an address I can't make out. It has Birmingham proofs. No initials in front of the name Clarke. Maybe the same retailer?
 
Nice old double. I have a single shot underlever 12 gauge. It has Clarke on the lock. The top of the breech is marked Clarke and an address I can't make out. It has Birmingham proofs. No initials in front of the name Clarke. Maybe the same retailer?

There were several known gunmakers named Clarke (just no FJ). Even a partial address might be enough to narrow it down.
 
One of the joys of having a gun collection is to pick one up and be reminded of how remarkable gunmaking can be, especially in guns made under conditions and with tools we would regard today as woefully inadequate and primitive. No CNC machines, well-lighted and ventilated workspaces, or instruction manuals! Just skilled hands, hammers, chisels and files, and experience.

A while back, I wrote about the forgotten 'Parker,' not the fabled American maker, but the English firm of Parker, Field & Sons. Looking up the name Clarke for a fellow CGNer reminded me there were quite a few gunmakers with that name, including one William Clarke of Duke Street, Portland Place (in the Marylebone District of London), who had an early collaboration with John Field. The story is worth re-posting with better pictures. Those who attended the 6th Double Gun Classic in Oshawa might have noticed this gun. This is about as fine as it got in mid-Victorian Britain!

Name and address are two of the most highly valued points of reference in British gunmaking. While a little-known maker operating in a distant town could, and did, produce guns of the highest order when commissioned to do so, most of the top-tier makers in mid-Victorian Britain, with names known by all the keen sportsmen of the day, had London addresses. The name Purdey is synonymous today with the finest guns; in the 1860s, James Purdey was just one of several London makers with equally well-earned reputations. These included James Woodward, Thomas Boss, Harris Holland, John Blanch, Edward Reilly, and Joseph Lang, but there were others.

At the beginning of the pin-fire era in the 1850s and early 1860s, simply offering high-quality breech-loading guns placed gunmakers in the forefront of their field. After some time, this distinction would have lost its novelty, and gunmakers needed other means to remain competitive. Inventing and building proprietary patents attracted the attention of sportsmen and raised the estimation of the maker's wares above others until something better came along. A long and storied history would also be helpful regarding reputation, and a prestigious London address would provide access to well-heeled patrons. Claiming the custom of important persons was one of the most powerful tools in advertising (equally so today), better still if there was a royal connection. One would think that a firm encompassing all of these traits would be among the best known today, yet, surprisingly, little is known or has been written about Parker, Field & Sons, and even less on their sporting guns. Surviving pieces show off the high quality of their flint and percussion pistols and sporting guns, but very little is known of their pin-fire game guns.

The origins of the business started with John Field, who had been a goldsmith, sword cutler and gun maker at 233 High Holborn from 1783 to 1791 (the street is so named for being the highest point in the City of London). He traded under his name and also as Field & Co and Field & Clarke (William Clarke, mentioned earlier). When John died in 1791, William Parker partnered with John's widow and traded as Field & Parker. In 1814, William's daughter, Mary, married John Field Junior. William became gun maker to Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn (the future Queen Victoria's father), then to King William IV.

When William died in 1841, John Field Junior and his sons John William Parker Field and William Shakespeare Field started trading as Parker, Field & Sons. In 1850 John Field Junior died, and his sons took over the business. At some point, Parker, Field & Sons received the greatest accolade, becoming gunmaker to Her Majesty Queen Victoria, a recognition the firm made good use of in their case labels and advertisements. JWP Field was also an accomplished rifle shooter; he was Instructor to the Honourable Artillery Company from 1866 to 1879 and Captain of the English Twenty shooting team. JWP Field lived with his wife, Frances, next door to the gun shop at 234 High Holborn. As to the address, High Holborn street was central and very well located; Charles Dickens lived on High Holborn for a while, as did William Morris, the influential designer and promoter of the Arts and Crafts movement.

William Shakespeare Field died in 1875, and in 1876 the business moved from 233 High Holborn to 122 Leman Street, near the Tower of London in the East End. John William Parker Field continued running the firm until he died in 1879. The firm ceased business in 1886 after over 100 years in the trade.

Though it produced martial, trade, and sporting arms, the firm of Parker, Field & Sons is probably best known for its military contracts. It supplied arms to the Honourable East India Company, trade guns to the Hudson's Bay and North West Companies, and military Enfield muskets to both sides in the American Civil War. The firm also provided police forces with pistols, truncheons, tipstaffs, cutlasses, handcuffs, wrist shackles, leg irons, and "all articles used by police." Parker, Field & Sons exhibited their guns and assorted wares at the Great Exhibition in London in 1851, where Casimir Lefaucheux first demonstrated his pin-fire invention to the British public.

At least three types of pin-fire game guns are known to have been made by Parker, Field & Sons: the Joseph Lang-type forward-underlever with a single bite and a rising stud for assisted opening; a similar single-bite action but with a rear-facing underlever; and an elegant bar-in-wood partial snap-action gun, the firm's 'best.' The latter is shown here, a lovely gun amongst the first to exhibit the bar-in-wood construction in an attempt to hide the hinge or at least minimize the visual differences between muzzle-loaders and the early breech-loaders. It is a 12-bore, with the serial number 10567. The top rib is signed 'Parker Field & Sons Makers to her Majesty 233 Holborn London' in cursive and 'Field's Patent' within a decorative scroll. The same 'Field's Patent' marking is on the sculpted underlever. The 30" damascus barrels have London proofs and bear the Field stamp and the barrel maker's mark' R.W.,' possibly Robert Wall of 9 Little Compton St., Soho (1864-65). The single-bite partial snap-action rotary underlever action is John William Parker Field's patent No. 3485 of December 1862. The action looks like the ubiquitous 'Jones underlever,' but it is quite different. It is a partial snap-action, with the underlever under spring tension. It is only partial, though; the last part of the lever's swing must be closed by hand.

The slender bar action locks are signed 'Parker Field & Sons.' The rounded hammers have dolphin-headed noses, and the thin percussion fences are decorated with acanthus spray engraving. The figured stock has drop points, a feature not commonly found at the time. The foliate scroll engraving is typical, and the vacant monogram escutcheon on the top wrist is gold, befitting a 'best' gun. The gun weighs a tidy 6 lb 15 oz., and the bores are still mirror-bright. The gun still has its original leather-covered case, though it is in poor condition, and the label is darkly stained.

No Parker, Field & Sons records survive, so it is impossible to date the gun precisely, nor is it possible to know who commissioned it, though the case carries the initials' C. J. D.'. Still, from known serial numbers, the patent date, and the barrel maker's mark, one can reasonably assume a build date somewhere around 1865. From surviving guns, it seems that the firm of Parker, Field & Sons was still making percussion guns and even flintlocks at that time, confirming that a maker would make anything the client desired.

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Here is the gun in its tired case with cleaning rod and label, together with my Great-Grandfather's Parker Field & Sons truncheon, from when he was a police officer in Victoria's England.

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One of the joys of having a gun collection is to pick one up and be reminded of how remarkable gunmaking can be, especially in guns made under conditions and with tools we would regard today as woefully inadequate and primitive. No CNC machines, well-lighted and ventilated workspaces, or instruction manuals! Just skilled hands, hammers, chisels and files, and experience.

A while back, I wrote about the forgotten 'Parker,' not the fabled American maker, but the English firm of Parker, Field & Sons. Looking up the name Clarke for a fellow CGNer reminded me there were quite a few gunmakers with that name, including one William Clarke of Duke Street, Portland Place (in the Marylebone District of London), who had an early collaboration with John Field. The story is worth re-posting with better pictures. Those who attended the 6th Double Gun Classic in Oshawa might have noticed this gun. This is about as fine as it got in mid-Victorian Britain!

Name and address are two of the most highly valued points of reference in British gunmaking. While a little-known maker operating in a distant town could, and did, produce guns of the highest order when commissioned to do so, most of the top-tier makers in mid-Victorian Britain, with names known by all the keen sportsmen of the day, had London addresses. The name Purdey is synonymous today with the finest guns; in the 1860s, James Purdey was just one of several London makers with equally well-earned reputations. These included James Woodward, Thomas Boss, Harris Holland, John Blanch, Edward Reilly, and Joseph Lang, but there were others.

At the beginning of the pin-fire era in the 1850s and early 1860s, simply offering high-quality breech-loading guns placed gunmakers in the forefront of their field. After some time, this distinction would have lost its novelty, and gunmakers needed other means to remain competitive. Inventing and building proprietary patents attracted the attention of sportsmen and raised the estimation of the maker's wares above others until something better came along. A long and storied history would also be helpful regarding reputation, and a prestigious London address would provide access to well-heeled patrons. Claiming the custom of important persons was one of the most powerful tools in advertising (equally so today), better still if there was a royal connection. One would think that a firm encompassing all of these traits would be among the best known today, yet, surprisingly, little is known or has been written about Parker, Field & Sons, and even less on their sporting guns. Surviving pieces show off the high quality of their flint and percussion pistols and sporting guns, but very little is known of their pin-fire game guns.

The origins of the business started with John Field, who had been a goldsmith, sword cutler and gun maker at 233 High Holborn from 1783 to 1791 (the street is so named for being the highest point in the City of London). He traded under his name and also as Field & Co and Field & Clarke (William Clarke, mentioned earlier). When John died in 1791, William Parker partnered with John's widow and traded as Field & Parker. In 1814, William's daughter, Mary, married John Field Junior. William became gun maker to Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn (the future Queen Victoria's father), then to King William IV.

When William died in 1841, John Field Junior and his sons John William Parker Field and William Shakespeare Field started trading as Parker, Field & Sons. In 1850 John Field Junior died, and his sons took over the business. At some point, Parker, Field & Sons received the greatest accolade, becoming gunmaker to Her Majesty Queen Victoria, a recognition the firm made good use of in their case labels and advertisements. JWP Field was also an accomplished rifle shooter; he was Instructor to the Honourable Artillery Company from 1866 to 1879 and Captain of the English Twenty shooting team. JWP Field lived with his wife, Frances, next door to the gun shop at 234 High Holborn. As to the address, High Holborn street was central and very well located; Charles Dickens lived on High Holborn for a while, as did William Morris, the influential designer and promoter of the Arts and Crafts movement.

William Shakespeare Field died in 1875, and in 1876 the business moved from 233 High Holborn to 122 Leman Street, near the Tower of London in the East End. John William Parker Field continued running the firm until he died in 1879. The firm ceased business in 1886 after over 100 years in the trade.

Though it produced martial, trade, and sporting arms, the firm of Parker, Field & Sons is probably best known for its military contracts. It supplied arms to the Honourable East India Company, trade guns to the Hudson's Bay and North West Companies, and military Enfield muskets to both sides in the American Civil War. The firm also provided police forces with pistols, truncheons, tipstaffs, cutlasses, handcuffs, wrist shackles, leg irons, and "all articles used by police." Parker, Field & Sons exhibited their guns and assorted wares at the Great Exhibition in London in 1851, where Casimir Lefaucheux first demonstrated his pin-fire invention to the British public.

At least three types of pin-fire game guns are known to have been made by Parker, Field & Sons: the Joseph Lang-type forward-underlever with a single bite and a rising stud for assisted opening; a similar single-bite action but with a rear-facing underlever; and an elegant bar-in-wood partial snap-action gun, the firm's 'best.' The latter is shown here, a lovely gun amongst the first to exhibit the bar-in-wood construction in an attempt to hide the hinge or at least minimize the visual differences between muzzle-loaders and the early breech-loaders. It is a 12-bore, with the serial number 10567. The top rib is signed 'Parker Field & Sons Makers to her Majesty 233 Holborn London' in cursive and 'Field's Patent' within a decorative scroll. The same 'Field's Patent' marking is on the sculpted underlever. The 30" damascus barrels have London proofs and bear the Field stamp and the barrel maker's mark' R.W.,' possibly Robert Wall of 9 Little Compton St., Soho (1864-65). The single-bite partial snap-action rotary underlever action is John William Parker Field's patent No. 3485 of December 1862. The action looks like the ubiquitous 'Jones underlever,' but it is quite different. It is a partial snap-action, with the underlever under spring tension. It is only partial, though; the last part of the lever's swing must be closed by hand.

The slender bar action locks are signed 'Parker Field & Sons.' The rounded hammers have dolphin-headed noses, and the thin percussion fences are decorated with acanthus spray engraving. The figured stock has drop points, a feature not commonly found at the time. The foliate scroll engraving is typical, and the vacant monogram escutcheon on the top wrist is gold, befitting a 'best' gun. The gun weighs a tidy 6 lb 15 oz., and the bores are still mirror-bright. The gun still has its original leather-covered case, though it is in poor condition, and the label is darkly stained.

No Parker, Field & Sons records survive, so it is impossible to date the gun precisely, nor is it possible to know who commissioned it, though the case carries the initials' C. J. D.'. Still, from known serial numbers, the patent date, and the barrel maker's mark, one can reasonably assume a build date somewhere around 1865. From surviving guns, it seems that the firm of Parker, Field & Sons was still making percussion guns and even flintlocks at that time, confirming that a maker would make anything the client desired.

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Here is the gun in its tired case with cleaning rod and label, together with my Great-Grandfather's Parker Field & Sons truncheon, from when he was a police officer in Victoria's England.

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That is surely the most overtly patriotic truncheon I've ever laid eyes on a photo of. Must have been intended exclusively for use on members of the House Of Lords.
 
That is surely the most overtly patriotic truncheon I've ever laid eyes on a photo of. Must have been intended exclusively for use on members of the House Of Lords.

Although it would have been handy if required in a tussle, the Victorian policeman’s truncheon, duly marked with the Queen’s cipher, was like presenting a badge, or today in the UK, one’s warrant card. Ceremonial and denoting one’s authority, but hard as a rock if the criminal did not come quietly!
 
Although it would have been handy if required in a tussle, the Victorian policeman’s truncheon, duly marked with the Queen’s cipher, was like presenting a badge, or today in the UK, one’s warrant card. Ceremonial and denoting one’s authority, but hard as a rock if the criminal did not come quietly!

I guess that tradition does explain why, in what seem to be the more authentic British crime dramas, the plainclothes officer often shows the criminal a little folded piece of cardboard instead of something more resembling a badge.
 
Had this posted in the engraving sticky but a few pics prior to getting sent off to Stillwater Restoration/ Chris Dawe to have the finish redone.

Picked this up a week ago and a bit more I’ve found. Only marking on the gun other than the gauge is “ Fabrique Nationale Herstal”. Action is same as a Browning Superposed long tang with highly engraved side plates. The serial number ends with S4 with the engraving very similar to a Presentation 4 Superposed.

The S4 suffix follows the Browning numbering and places the gun at 1964 production. Should make a nice Sporting fine weather gun weighing in a 8.2 lbs.

Barrels are 28” choked full & mod. Will likely have the full choke dropped down to IC while away for the stock refinish.

Had been fired and I put a few shells through it on the weekend at Sporting. Stock finish is flaking at edges hence the restore job.

Stock disc marked “ Donated by Nan & Frank Pachmayr To Wetlands For Iowa”. No engraver name that I can find but my short research shows the Pachmayr shop turned out some exceptional guns and well regarded engravers doing the work. Some interesting posts online on the Pachmayr guns and his personal collection on a YouTube video.

https://youtu.be/3wgXKLkr7Ac


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I've never been a fan of gold inlays and false side plates, but I have to admit it works very well on this gun. The ducks are particularly well done. Stunning! The engraving style, with the deep floral etching, works very well on the Superposed. Lovely wood and chequering.
 
Time to bump this thread. Another wayward child comes home - a nicely restored Westley Richards percussion 16 gauge side by side. Lightly frosted bores (in proof!), no pitting, no dents, rebrowned barrels, properly recheckered stocks, wood refinished, original ebony ramrod, new nipples and crisp locks - grouse season isn’t over yet! I haven’t been able to date this yet, WR records are spread through many books and they usually used several books concurrently for different types or classes of guns or rifles. I’ve had two guns so far that they couldn’t trace so their records, although massive, aren’t complete. I’m guessing 1830 - 1860 but it could easily be older or newer. So, a nice usable high quality muzzle loading double by a renowned maker, but it’s screaming ( genteelly) for a suitable case. Any assistance here would be greatly appreciated.
 

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