Let's see your Dangerous Game Rifles.

DGY said:
Yeah we have really tiny grizzlies, and hat makes them friendlier too….
And we don’t have any salmon anymore and don’t have huckleberries so I guess soon we will be out of grizzlies too!
Anyway, I carry bear spray when I’m picking berries! The world would be a safer place if I could carry my 44mag everywhere but I can’t so why even mention it…
I lived here 26 years so far, spent more time in the wilderness than a lot of people here and never had to use a gun or bear spray so far! A few times I was as close as 25’ from bears and didn’t #### my pants yet or panicked and decided to shoot!
I have friends that died from bear attack and none of them would be here to tell the story gun or no gun, when a bear get on you from 5-10 feet away from behind or your side at 30+km/h there is nothing you can do trust me! People think bear will attack you head on walking slowly from 100m away hahaha fools!
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So, which are your salmon streams left ? Is it catch and release or do keep the fish ?
 
riversrest said:
So, which are your salmon streams left ? Is it catch and release or do keep the fish ?
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Everything that is connected to the Yukon River watershed, then there is the Alsek river and everything that flows into it
These two watershed include 100s of river and creeks! Unfortunately we are not allowed to fish for salmon in the Yukon unless you are First Nation!

One fall I was hunting from McNeil lake all the way down to Nisutlin put in, going down the McNeil to moss lake, then down the upper nisutlin and we saw salmon carcasses at moss lake, that is one of not the longest migration in the world going up the Yukon river then up the Teslin river and up the nisutlin river and the upper nisutlin and up the McNeil! That has to be close to 3000km!!
Amazing, that said the numbers are really low! So that is why we are not allowed to fish for salmon up here, it’s been like that for the las 18-20 years, but I had the chance to catch my first salmon at dalton post on the Tat!
 
Mik123 said:
There's a couple of nice looking Ruger Safari Mangums on consigment at Prophet River, in case anyone is looking.
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I have one of those in .375 H&H

Absolutely beautifully made firearms with metal and wood fit and finish really top quality.
 
OP, What would constitute a dangerous game rifle ?

If I'm about to arm a .375... on whatever at 300 m. It's not really dangerous to me at that distance. ?
 
Thanks Twan, it turned out particularly well, and shoots wonderfully. I’ve decided I’m going to part with it eventually to standardize on the .375 HH which has been my steady go to for almost twenty years. But it’s not an easy call, I’m in a simplification phase and that rifle’s not appropriate as an HH or I’d convert it. Would ruin everything that’s wonderful about it, and not really fit. I’m trying to slowly whittle down to .308 & .375 HH though which means compromises, but that’s another discussion.
 
riversrest said:
OP, What would constitute a dangerous game rifle ?

If I'm about to arm a .375... on whatever at 300 m. It's not really dangerous to me at that distance. ?
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Dangerous game rifles quite simply mean a rifle well suited to stopping game that has a chance or predisposition, even if largely imagined, of getting its teeth, claws, horns, tusks or hooves on you. That becomes a lot more likely when you’re killing them, but that doesn’t diminish the rifles in general. The guns themselves, they’re quick pointing rifles in chamberings offering more than several thousand ft-lbs of energy and a bullet that penetrates reliably. Experts have proven less is suitable, long as the penetration isn’t traded off; that’s the one required constant that links them all lest for my last thought at the end.

Some are better all rounders than others, like the .375, it both works in close and reaches afar equally well, compared to say a .500 Nitro Express or .458 Win. The answer on range should be obvious, a dangerous game rifle can shoot far, but is optimized for shooting close. .375s also the usual African Big Five minimum, though some countries make exceptions. Some do it all, like the .458 Lott, but only Doglegs and other likeable masochists shoot them for full days. The last thing that links them? They put a sideways smile on your face. A sense of adventure when one is in your hands, whether that’s at home in winter daydreaming, or on your shoulder salmon fishing or taking wildlife photos. Or berry picking for that matter as recently established.

They’re tools of a wilder, mostly lost world, and a fondness of them is something I’ve been unable to shake even as I pack the camera now rather than the rifle chasing the allegedly highly dangerous game. There’s some creatures the concern’s less to make light of, and has a less imagined component, but they live on another continent I’ll look forward to returning to soon again. And you bet a .375 will be on my shoulder again, and that it will feel like life being lived… with a little sideways smile just the camera or berry basket doesn’t quite bring. I hope you can see the fun in this and these rifles riverrest, you’ve seemed an irritable soul in many directions through recent years. Quality time with a dangerous game rifle is a well known prescription for that.

Northern and his constant big bore threads and questions has the bug, and hell I can’t blame him. I get it, fondle then, carry them, use them… and smile. Try it… even you might smile.
 
Ardent said:
Dangerous game rifles quite simply mean a rifle well suited to stopping game that has a chance or predisposition, even if largely imagined, of getting its teeth, claws, horns, tusks or hooves on you. That becomes a lot more likely when you’re killing them, but that doesn’t diminish the rifles in general. The guns themselves, they’re quick pointing rifles in chamberings offering more than several thousand ft-lbs of energy and a bullet that penetrates reliably. Experts have proven less is suitable, long as the penetration isn’t traded off; that’s the one required constant that links them all lest for my last thought at the end.

Some are better all rounders than others, like the .375, it both works in close and reaches afar equally well, compared to say a .500 Nitro Express or .458 Win. The answer on range should be obvious, a dangerous game rifle can shoot far, but is optimized for shooting close. .375s also the usual African Big Five minimum, though some countries make exceptions. Some do it all, like the .458 Lott, but only Doglegs and other likeable masochists shoot them for full days. The last thing that links them? They put a sideways smile on your face. A sense of adventure when one is in your hands, whether that’s at home in winter daydreaming, or on your shoulder salmon fishing or taking wildlife photos. Or berry picking for that matter as recently established.

They’re tools of a wilder, mostly lost world, and a fondness of them is something I’ve been unable to shake even as I pack the camera now rather than the rifle chasing the allegedly highly dangerous game. There’s some creatures the concern’s less to make light of, and has a less imagined component, but they live on another continent I’ll look forward to returning to soon again. And you bet a .375 will be on my shoulder again, and that it will feel like life being lived… with a little sideways smile just the camera or berry basket doesn’t quite bring. I hope you can see the fun in this and these rifles riverrest, you’ve seemed an irritable soul in many directions through recent years. Quality time with a dangerous game rifle is a well known prescription for that.

Northern and his constant big bore threads and questions has the bug, and hell I can’t blame him. I get it, fondle then, carry them, use them… and smile. Try it… even you might smile.
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The bug has bit me bad. I'm pretty sure at this point taking up opioids would be a cheaper alternative than feeding my big bore addiction. The 416 Rigby was my latest addition and it's not exactly cheap to feed, however I still enjoy shooting it far more than all of my "lesser" cartridges.

Always appreciate your posts and insights on the matter. A brown bear hunt is in my future and I'll be bringing one of the above.
 
Twan said:
Not my original posts on the Africa Hunting Forum but I now own this .458 Lott, built by AHR on a left handed CZ magnum action. Currently sports a peep sight from NECG, but I've got a Recknagel 1 standing/1 folding rear sight to file in and fit to the quarter rib.

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Currently building a second "express" game rifle - the quarter rib is of my own design, all hand finished/fit to a barrel profile I've designed (based off a 1930s H&H .300 Super barrel).

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I'd like to see what that peep sight looks like up close on your 458, nice and low profile.

-Peter
 
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