Liberals plan to ''End Gun Violence''

As bitterly disappointed as I am by O'Toole's flip flop, I'm still voting CPC.
Why?
Because my feelings don't matter. O'Toole remains the best practical choice for firearms owners and the only viable candidate that can unseat Trudeau.
And Canada doesn't need any more Trudeau.
 
If you're thinking about voting PPC, you might as well vote Purple People Eater Party.... your vote carries about the same weight.
 
Just like the Electoral College south of the border, regardless if you get more votes, the # of seats dictates the majority. I don't have an idea as to how to move to popular vote as a gauge to majority as this will skew the # of seats gained by any party. Our discussions here will achieve nothing if we do not agree to a single party. NO OFFENSE MEANT, as we are free to post our opinions. We will never know as to who you voted anyway. O Toole's flip flop to the OIC is frustrating. But if CPC can get a majority, or a minority, at least, negating OIC is a done deal. The Libs will just jump up and down just the way we are into right now. Next immediate step is to RE-CLASSIFY our firearms as soon as OIC is cancelled. Then, a total REVAMP of the Criminal Justice system for crimes involving firearms. Crimes involving kids and firearms should be treated as case involving adult. Bail and Parole system for offenders related to firearms needs serious review. No mercy for crimes involving firearms. I might be too harsh as this does not provide a 2nd chance to young offenders, but this is the only way we can show the world that Canada, as a country will not tolerate gun related crimes and not the way Billie da Kid projects it as: " Numbers does not tell the whole story". When asked on TV over the weekend, he never answered the question. But instead, tell stories barely related to the question. My questions to him still are: Then, what are these numbers for? Where are you getting your facts? He knows the problem, HE IS NOW AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE PROBLEM.

EVERY VOTE COUNT. VOTE EARLY, AND VOTE WISELY.


Thunderhog said:
Don’t forget fraud, lying, cheating and the Dominion ballot counters that can rigged to a select winner.

Remember Biden, 81 million votes, that’s more than Obama!…….:(

The turd will cheat his way to victory if necessary.
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Steve_B said:
As bitterly disappointed as I am by O'Toole's flip flop, I'm still voting CPC.
Why?
Because my feelings don't matter. O'Toole remains the best practical choice for firearms owners and the only viable candidate that can unseat Trudeau.
And Canada doesn't need any more Trudeau.
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As mentioned previously, this is a strategic move, and it's not just his - it's his advisors'. The only angle of attack is his early opinion on firearms. He is level-headed, his policies follow societal norms, and he advocates for full class spectrum. Combined with actual political experience, I would argue that he is the best man for the job once you strip away all personal nuance. Now that he has tried to nullify the firearm argument, the Liberals can only beat a dead horse...and beat they are.

If I were hiring a CEO for a company, I wouldn't hire the guy who's dad was once a CEO. That would be bad business.

Vote for Bobby Fischer - he's not playing with your freedoms.
 
Personally I would rather chance O’toole doing absolutely nothing with firearms, good or bad, than the turd getting in. Once he gets in if he doesn’t get his majority he going to held up by the dippers and bloc, and he’s said we’ll be back to the polls soon after so he can keep working on getting his majority. I fear once he gets his majority we may never see another election in Canada. There’s something bigger at play and you can already see the wheels in motion in Australia. Now I could be completely wrong and O’toole could end up caving to poly and ban more guns but he’d be shooting his party in the foot as I doubt you’d ever see another gun vote come their way. Right now we need to unseat the turd. That’s it plain and simple and we need to vote for the party that has the best chance at doing it. As much as I agree with the ppc platform they can’t form government. And we can’t have a minority win. It’s majority cpc or we will have a coalition government. They will vote down the thrown speech and the cpc will lose confidence and the turd will get to lead again. We saw it in BC and now we’re suffering. We need to vote strategically this time. I know it may suck but we need to look at the bigger picture. Cpc we will probably keep what we can currently use. Libs and it’s all done, hunting included.
 
Shorerider said:
Personally I would rather chance O’toole doing absolutely nothing with firearms, good or bad, than the turd getting in. Once he gets in if he doesn’t get his majority he going to held up by the dippers and bloc, and he’s said we’ll be back to the polls soon after so he can keep working on getting his majority. I fear once he gets his majority we may never see another election in Canada. There’s something bigger at play and you can already see the wheels in motion in Australia. Now I could be completely wrong and O’toole could end up caving to poly and ban more guns but he’d be shooting his party in the foot as I doubt you’d ever see another gun vote come their way. Right now we need to unseat the turd. That’s it plain and simple and we need to vote for the party that has the best chance at doing it. As much as I agree with the ppc platform they can’t form government. And we can’t have a minority win. It’s majority cpc or we will have a coalition government. They will vote down the thrown speech and the cpc will lose confidence and the turd will get to lead again. We saw it in BC and now we’re suffering. We need to vote strategically this time. I know it may suck but we need to look at the bigger picture. Cpc we will probably keep what we can currently use. Libs and it’s all done, hunting included.
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Here here, well spoken.
 
Shorerider said:
Personally I would rather chance O’toole doing absolutely nothing with firearms, good or bad, than the turd getting in. Once he gets in if he doesn’t get his majority he going to held up by the dippers and bloc, and he’s said we’ll be back to the polls soon after so he can keep working on getting his majority. I fear once he gets his majority we may never see another election in Canada. There’s something bigger at play and you can already see the wheels in motion in Australia. Now I could be completely wrong and O’toole could end up caving to poly and ban more guns but he’d be shooting his party in the foot as I doubt you’d ever see another gun vote come their way. Right now we need to unseat the turd. That’s it plain and simple and we need to vote for the party that has the best chance at doing it. As much as I agree with the ppc platform they can’t form government. And we can’t have a minority win. It’s majority cpc or we will have a coalition government. They will vote down the thrown speech and the cpc will lose confidence and the turd will get to lead again. We saw it in BC and now we’re suffering. We need to vote strategically this time. I know it may suck but we need to look at the bigger picture. Cpc we will probably keep what we can currently use. Libs and it’s all done, hunting included.
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Exactly.

There are many threads on CGN about being upset with O'Toole. I am not the happiest about the flip flop either. But my focus is the liberals being gone for many reasons. To have that happen we need 100% CPC votes. Get involved, help out, donate, join the CPC and change it from the inside. The PPC is not viable right now. Maybe down the road, but let's get real. Those votes to PPC may help Turd get back in and we all know what that means.

If we do not stick together on this, this web site will be gone, businesses and shooting sports will be history. They have already being dropping hints on why does anyone need to hunt anymore. You know where that leads.

Not just a firearms issue. There are many things we will regret if the Turd and his pack of liars get in for another term.

P.
 
Shorerider said:
Personally I would rather chance O’toole doing absolutely nothing with firearms, good or bad, than the turd getting in. Once he gets in if he doesn’t get his majority he going to held up by the dippers and bloc, and he’s said we’ll be back to the polls soon after so he can keep working on getting his majority. I fear once he gets his majority we may never see another election in Canada. There’s something bigger at play and you can already see the wheels in motion in Australia. Now I could be completely wrong and O’toole could end up caving to poly and ban more guns but he’d be shooting his party in the foot as I doubt you’d ever see another gun vote come their way. Right now we need to unseat the turd. That’s it plain and simple and we need to vote for the party that has the best chance at doing it. As much as I agree with the ppc platform they can’t form government. And we can’t have a minority win. It’s majority cpc or we will have a coalition government. They will vote down the thrown speech and the cpc will lose confidence and the turd will get to lead again. We saw it in BC and now we’re suffering. We need to vote strategically this time. I know it may suck but we need to look at the bigger picture. Cpc we will probably keep what we can currently use. Libs and it’s all done, hunting included.
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Well said. Thank you.

I could not believe my eyes when I saw footage of Australia lately. Just horrible.

Regardless of political preferences, Bill C-10 that the Libs tried to shove down our throats is extremely dangerous. It's amazing the number of people I speak to have no idea.

Hunters are definitely next on the Lib's list for their guns given the opportunity... I always notice they test the waters/try to sway public opinion first by putting out opinion pieces in the CBC, Global, CTV, etc titled something like " Hunting in 202X. Is it needed?" to plant the opinion seed in the public's mind.

So when the time comes to take action, the public is aware & are fine with it. It's been working for them and will continue given the Canadian public is gullible & uninformed.

A vote for PPC will give the turd another 4 years. We can't let that happen.
 
Sylvertiger said:
There quite a few good points mentioned here. I would like to know a little bit more on these high capacity magazines; like where do they come from, how easily they can be obtained, how much they cost etc.

Jokes aside, how is Trudeau even able to make such financial commitments. Only way to offset decline of the dollar with such economic policies is through mass immigration (referring to short term, quick solutions). Maybe we just need to let him Venezuela this country?
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When it comes to taking your guns, money is no object to these people.
 
And if the loss of guns won’t convince you to vote CPC the liberals finally admitted they are going to tax the sale of your home. And if it looks anything like what they introduced years back you will lose more than half of the equity you’ve built in your single largest investment. So if you were counting on your home to help your retirement your vote will cause your retirement to be pushed out probably to the point where it won’t matter cause you’ll be going into a nursing home not enjoying retirement. And you can be guaranteed the NDP support it whole heartedly. In fact they will probably want it to be taxed higher. So between that and the rent to own thing they’re proposing kiss any real estate investment plans goodbye. This election is so important and guns are so far down the list. We are looking at the absolute loss of our country as we know it.
 
I guess it's time to sell right now.
can't take a gamble that the little prick will manage to stay on his throne
even thought about majorly downsizing into a diesel powered "tiny home" ..... semi luxury RV.
The wife is 10 years out from retirement and just got offered a 20K signing bonus to leave interior health for northern health ..... closer to alaska where i hope to retire.

gonna take this news from the CPC email that I also received that it is time to sell now.
 
Yeah unfortunately I’m a little too far from retirement just yet. Need the kids to graduate high school first then I can sell. But at that point I don’t know if I’ll bother. The whole idea was to downsize here and buy a place down south with the equity. Looks like I’ll just have to buy the place down south without it.
 
I am voting CPC but there are things I will not accept easily as a Quebec resident. I do not want Quebec to have any more "autonomy', it already has more than it needs. I do not accept O'Tooles acceptance of Quebec as a "Nation". I do not accept O'Toole's support for increased french language in federal charted companies.
But as most politicians never keep their promises for whatever reasons, I am quite confident that these are just vote getting smoke signals that will never see the light of day. We have seen this for the last 6 years and my betting is that it will continue whatever the party in power.
As most have repeated here the goal is to get rid of the Turd so I will hold my nose and vote accordingly.
 
CommonCents said:
The best way to help the CPC is to vote for whoever has the best chance of beating the liberals in your riding, and spread that word far and wide. Look up the history and local polls and use that as your guide. The CPC wins this by bleeding as many votes away from the liberals in Quebec as they can, and snapping up a riding here or there if they can.

It's a dirty tactic, but Justin's a dirty boy.
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Problem with that in this election is the other parties have said they will prop up a liberal minority. We need as many seats as possible for the CPC to get them the majority. That’s the only way we stand a chance.
 
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