LNL AP major problems now: UPDATED

acrashb said:
On reviewing the video, that looks like it might be the issue. I'd still like to know how deep your spring groove is.

Having a few cases tip / stick is normal with range brass (the rims are dinged up, would be an issue on any press), but "nine out of ten" is not normal.
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I did take a measurement but discarded it as soon as I realized its deeper than the spring width...I'll take another for interest sake though
 
HKMark23 said:
Onagoth, If I understand your problem correctly, your brass is "tripping" over the retention spring as it is pushed into the shell plate by the shuttle. At initial setup, mine did this too. Here is the fix.

With no brass in your shell plate, place your left index finger in top of the spring where it is exposed under the shell plate shell holder location just ahead of the shuttle position, (the location foremost on the still video picture you've posted above). Press gently down on the spring.

As you slowly cycle your press with your right hand, follow the shell holder location with your left index finger keeping light downward pressure on the spring. This will guide the spring to its correct position "under" the shell plate as the plate location approaches the shuttle. This is subtle but you will notice the spring "drop" into its correct position as your finger approaches the shuttle. Remove your left index finger at this point and cycle your press past the shuttle location a time or two. The spring will now continue to follow in its correct track(under the shell plate) as it passes the shuttle location and your brass should stop tripping.

Hope this does it for you.
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I was hoping this would work, but it didn't...
 
I don't use a Hornady...so sorry if this is a stupid question...but even on your first attempt in that video (when it cycled through) the case still tipped forward. Is that normal?

Is it possible that the base of the case feed mechanism is too high in relation to the sub plate? I've seen quite a few other videos where they seem to be flush...yours look a bit higher...
 
Mine don't tip like that...It maybe time to get togeather and start swaping parts from mine to yours and get this sorted out...Let me know I will make the time to get it done...

I hate to see any one have this much trouble when I am sure we could figure it out with extra parts and by compairing them....
 
JOJOPINTO said:
Mine don't tip like that...It maybe time to get togeather and start swaping parts from mine to yours and get this sorted out...Let me know I will make the time to get it done...

I hate to see any one have this much trouble when I am sure we could figure it out with extra parts and by compairing them....
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Its too bad your so far away, I could probably bring some on March 6th, unfortunately, carting around a whole press isn't really gonna work :(
 
Hoser-eh said:
Have you sent the video to Hornady and spoken with anyone there?
They should be able to diagnose the problem right away.
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I've called them twice about this....each time getting new parts.

I was gonna call them today and offer the video, but didn't get around to it....Tomorrow or Monday I guess.
 
Why not temporarily remove that retention spring...then see if the cases will feed properly into that first station.

I understand that you need that spring in place in order to actually load...but at least this may help narrow down the problem (or eliminate it as a suspect)
 
Onagoth said:
Its too bad your so far away, I could probably bring some on March 6th, unfortunately, carting around a whole press isn't really gonna work :(
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Brantford is not to far away, I will make the drive to you if you want to give it a try, maybe I can combine the trip with something else i need to do, say the word and will make trip...

I have my press bolted to laminated boards so if you have a couple of c-clamps at home we can set them side by side on your bench and compare the two, I have a few spare parts and can bring some different brass...If you were thinking about loading .223 I can bring that stuff too and you can see how you like it...:D
 
Quigley said:
Why not temporarily remove that retention spring...then see if the cases will feed properly into that first station.

I understand that you need that spring in place in order to actually load...but at least this may help narrow down the problem (or eliminate it as a suspect)
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Did that...and they do.

I also tried with .223 cases since they use the same shellplate....they rocked the same way, but never got jammed in the shellplate.
 
JOJOPINTO said:
Brantford is not to far away, I will make the drive to you if you want to give it a try, maybe I can combine the trip with something else i need to do, say the word and will make trip...

I have my press bolted to laminated boards so if you have a couple of c-clamps at home we can set them side by side on your bench and compare the two, I have a few spare parts and can bring some different brass...If you were thinking about loading .223 I can bring that stuff too and you can see how you like it...:D
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That'd be great if you found yourself in this area. Let me know your availability.
 
So Onagoth... Did you get the problems fixed??? I have a LnL on order and was wondering if your problesm were repaired yet...

Hawkoon
 
Nope, cases still tilt going over the spring, partly a function of the casings being so light and partly a function of primers protruding from the primer pockets.

Heavier casings work no problem, but 9mm seems to jam like no ones business.
 
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Onagoth said:
Did that...and they do.

I also tried with .223 cases since they use the same shell-plate....they rocked the same way, but never got jammed in the shell-plate.
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Just a thought, are you using shell plate #8 or #16? You mentioned that .223 and 9mm use the same shell plate, but that is not the case.

I own a LNL AP as well, and I reload 9mm and .223 rem. I do not have a case feeder, but I use #8 for 9mm and #16 for .223 rem. I don't think 9mm will fit in the shell-plate for .223, but I know .223 fits loosely in the 9mm plate.

Have you had any luck with your press yet?

Mike
 
The press is working fine but cases still jam in the shellplate.

I've spent hours and hours trying to clear up this issue, and I've ruled out it being a problem with the casings. The retention springs I think sits high in the groove by a couple thou.

Apply a little bit of downward pressure on the case as it passes over this spring completely solves the issue, but thats a PITA.

Right now, I'm just fixing the jams as I place the bullets....doesn't really affect my reloading speed too much, just a small annoyance.

I checked out the article on the high road, but that relates to cases tilting as they go into station 5, as opposed to cases tilting as they go over the spring.

I may contact Hornady soon to see if they will send me a new sub plate.
 
acrashb said:
....c) out of the frying pan, into the fire. You'll most likely have a better experience, not because the dillon is made or designed better, but because it's a different press from the one you have now....I
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Lets see if I have this right....Buying a Dillon is jumping, "into the fire", in others words, a bad thing?...:rolleyes:.....Also, you`ll have a better, (Read: trouble free) experience...And it`s not because a Dillon is a better design/made....But because it`s just, well "different" (as in better designed/made?)....Really:rolleyes:....I would agree that Onagoth may have a lemon on his hands...Perhaps just packing it up and sending it back to Hornady is called for......
 
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