Lockhart renegade semi auto conversion

Hoppka47 said:
Yes the definition of barely legal is loopholes. Look the government sucks but they have made it very clear they do not want Semi Auto tactical (buttstock, pistol grip, mlock, detachable magazine) firearms available to consumers.

So it started with bringing back old 180 designes as if they were just AR 15s, then i was just creating frankenstein ARs like crusader, then crusader made a cheap plastic mold to put on some turkish hunting rifle and now this.

All im saying is how far down the hole of potential legal issues and wasted money are you willing to go to get something that makes you feel like a special ops person. stop the cope

if you really like sport shooting then learn a different platform, and if you are prepper consider the cringe of actually thinking having a tactical 2000$ rifle is actually going to make your life anymore safe or enjoyable.


How about save up a buy a house or start a family
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"how do you do, fellow sport shooters! Geez we shouldn't do anything to inconvenience the government, after all they dont like semi auto guns. Oh boy i guess we should all learn a different shooting discipline, right guys? Semi autos are weapons of war, what do you want to be special ops haha? Join the army if you want a semi auto! You dont need a gun to defend yourself"
Bro i have no clue how but you somehow rolled every single liberal talking point on why guns should be banned into one insufferable comment lmao.
 
Hoppka47 said:
if you really like sport shooting then learn a different platform, and if you are prepper consider the cringe of actually thinking having a tactical 2000$ rifle is actually going to make your life anymore safe or enenjoyable.
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What happens when all the platforms are gone?

Not all people are "preppers". They just want to use the tools they bought... Be it for sport, hunting, defence etc. Semi-Auto happens to be one of the most efficient and enjoyable platforms for most uses.
Hoppka47 said:
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Totally unrelated to anything. How do you even connect the two subjects? LOL.
 
Hoppka47 said:
Yes the definition of barely legal is loopholes. Look the government sucks but they have made it very clear they do not want Semi Auto tactical (buttstock, pistol grip, mlock, detachable magazine) firearms available to consumers.

So it started with bringing back old 180 designes as if they were just AR 15s, then i was just creating frankenstein ARs like crusader, then crusader made a cheap plastic mold to put on some turkish hunting rifle and now this.

All im saying is how far down the hole of potential legal issues and wasted money are you willing to go to get something that makes you feel like a special ops person. stop the cope

if you really like sport shooting then learn a different platform, and if you are prepper consider the cringe of actually thinking having a tactical 2000$ rifle is actually going to make your life anymore safe or enjoyable.


How about save up a buy a house or start a family
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Who CARES what a Lieberal government wants?!? Last I checked, those corrupt fvckers work for us, not the other way around.

Perhaps it has nothing whatsoever to do with coping, prepping, or dressing up and feeling like a "special ops person". Maybe instead it is a scholarly interest in the small arms currently used within conflict zones around the world. Not everyone is interested in turning their clocks back to the 1800s in order to find "acceptable" firearms designs to study.

Why should I learn a different platform from the one that I already know (and shoot) the best? What makes my preferred style of semi-automatic firearm so much more dangerous or socially unacceptable than a pump-action shotgun or a straight-pull carbine? The answer is nothing whatsoever! It is all meaningless, made-up semantics ("assault-style firearm") designed to spin a specific narrative, villify gun owners and propagandize the gullible Canadian public.

How about save up to buy a house, start a family, AND build an awesome gun collection? With some careful planning and a bit of luck all three goals are still attainable....
 
HeadDamage said:
I didn't want to think this but the more I consider it the more I'm wondering if Lockhart trying to get the Renegade band so their new strait pull rifle doesn't have competition?
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I know what your saying and I’ve mulled over the same idea.

I don’t think it’s the case.

It wouldn’t be easy to do the conversion - it’d require machining skills, and tooling that would allow you to build a firearm from the ground up anyways.

The Mossberg .22 plinkster in a plastic clam shell got banned as an AR variant. So it doesn’t make a difference what we do to comply. Nothing appeases a bully.

There isn’t any sanity to it. It’s all based on polling and votes. If enough people think your firearm is scary, it’s gone. It’s mob rule, and media lies.

Without a constitution, the uber left out east will pass laws, that they can’t enforce, on the entire country.

Could they ban machining tools. Almost certainly.
 
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It was an act of parliament that declared canadian civilians should be proficient with military arms in the event they should be called up for war to defend the nation. Wanting to use and become proficient with viable semi automatic rifles is not extreme, the ones wanting to ban firearms are the extremists, never forget that if you live to be 100. Never give them an inch or do their work for them. If someone wants to legally modify their gun to be semi auto (semi auto guns are not illegal in this country) they should be free to do so. If said gun was then deemed prohibited by a tyrannical govt, any anger expressed towards anyone other than said government would be grossly misdirected. Implying this is all being done with the sole intent of rendering the rifle in question prohibited is the type of fear mongering finger pointing that leads to the zealous self policing and infighting the govt wants us all engaged in while they continue to systemically dismantle our once great nation brick by brick.
 
Hoppka47 said:
Yes the definition of barely legal is loopholes. Look the government sucks but they have made it very clear they do not want Semi Auto tactical (buttstock, pistol grip, mlock, detachable magazine) firearms available to consumers.

So it started with bringing back old 180 designes as if they were just AR 15s, then i was just creating frankenstein ARs like crusader, then crusader made a cheap plastic mold to put on some turkish hunting rifle and now this.

All im saying is how far down the hole of potential legal issues and wasted money are you willing to go to get something that makes you feel like a special ops person. stop the cope

if you really like sport shooting then learn a different platform, and if you are prepper consider the cringe of actually thinking having a tactical 2000$ rifle is actually going to make your life anymore safe or enjoyable.


How about save up a buy a house or start a family
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Please answer this question for me...

Do you think all the 22 LR's they banned were banned because they are a danger to society? Or weapons of mass destruction?

I mean... maybe if you can get a bunch of squirrels to group together....?

The answer is obvious... They aren't using logic or knowledge when making these decisions.

Their actions are not based in REALITY but IDEOLOGY.
 
Hoppka47 said:
Yes the definition of barely legal is loopholes. Look the government sucks but they have made it very clear they do not want Semi Auto tactical (buttstock, pistol grip, mlock, detachable magazine) firearms available to consumers.

So it started with bringing back old 180 designes as if they were just AR 15s, then i was just creating frankenstein ARs like crusader, then crusader made a cheap plastic mold to put on some turkish hunting rifle and now this.

All im saying is how far down the hole of potential legal issues and wasted money are you willing to go to get something that makes you feel like a special ops person. stop the cope

if you really like sport shooting then learn a different platform, and if you are prepper consider the cringe of actually thinking having a tactical 2000$ rifle is actually going to make your life anymore safe or enjoyable.


How about save up a buy a house or start a family
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Elbows up!
 
Dexter Morgan said:
But if you make this particular rifle into a semi-auto;
The RCMP will simply reclassify it as an AR-15, and it will be gone.
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Which would open the door to MRA suing the RCMP for reclassifying its product because a third party was modifying it in a manner entirely compliant with the law.

Best of all, it doesn't even matter if the suit were successful - the mere prospect of discovery publicly showing "how the sausage is made" when it comes to classification is likely enough deterrence to make the RCMP not want to open that can of worms.
 
Hoppka47 said:
Yes the definition of barely legal is loopholes. Look the government sucks but they have made it very clear they do not want Semi Auto tactical (buttstock, pistol grip, mlock, detachable magazine) firearms available to consumers.

So it started with bringing back old 180 designes as if they were just AR 15s, then i was just creating frankenstein ARs like crusader, then crusader made a cheap plastic mold to put on some turkish hunting rifle and now this.

All im saying is how far down the hole of potential legal issues and wasted money are you willing to go to get something that makes you feel like a special ops person. stop the cope

if you really like sport shooting then learn a different platform, and if you are prepper consider the cringe of actually thinking having a tactical 2000$ rifle is actually going to make your life anymore safe or enjoyable.


How about save up a buy a house or start a family
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“How about save up a buy a house or start a family”


You realize this site is called canadiangunnutz 😂
 
True Shadows said:
Please answer this question for me...

Do you think all the 22 LR's they banned were banned because they are a danger to society? Or weapons of mass destruction?

I mean... maybe if you can get a bunch of squirrels to group together....?

The answer is obvious... They aren't using logic or knowledge when making these decisions.

Their actions are not based in REALITY but IDEOLOGY.
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I think they were banned for appearance. The law is about stopping a culture of people building a hobby around assault style rifles. They dont want it to be normal and accepted in canadian society.

respect the state!
 
Deathrawt said:
This might be a viable idea if we didn’t have such an aggressive corrupt govt hell bent on disarming everyone and trying to destroy our country
I like the idea but like was said it will cause it to get banned plus probably every other pump/straight pull tactical rifle out there like the taipan because they will all be considered “variants”
For those who think it can’t be considered a variant remember they banned a plastic 22 that had a screw together clamshell cover that looked like a toy gun
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Technically all firearms are a variant of each other, they all go bang and launch a projectile, but I get what you’re saying, the problem is that the term “Variant” is too vaguely worded which allows them to interpret it however they want to, we need definitions in our laws that are clear and unmistakable, that way they can’t just make up their own reasoning for what is legal and not, while also not being able to abuse their power to arbitrarily ban anything solely on the basis of their opinion or “Public safety” and whatever firearms they think are reasonable or not to own, which is what they’ve been doing, there needs to be evidence and facts and a threshold that must be met, they shouldn’t be allowed to ban them by OIC either which isn’t what OIC’s are meant to be used for, it’s all bull####.
 
Hoppka47 said:
Yes the definition of barely legal is loopholes. Look the government sucks but they have made it very clear they do not want Semi Auto tactical (buttstock, pistol grip, mlock, detachable magazine) firearms available to consumers.

So it started with bringing back old 180 designes as if they were just AR 15s, then i was just creating frankenstein ARs like crusader, then crusader made a cheap plastic mold to put on some turkish hunting rifle and now this.

All im saying is how far down the hole of potential legal issues and wasted money are you willing to go to get something that makes you feel like a special ops person. stop the cope

if you really like sport shooting then learn a different platform, and if you are prepper consider the cringe of actually thinking having a tactical 2000$ rifle is actually going to make your life anymore safe or enjoyable.


How about save up a buy a house or start a family
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There is no such thing as loopholes, something that’s barely legal or a workaround, it’s either legal or not, the left loves to use these words and imply that we’re circumventing the law when firearms manufacturers make a new firearm that meets legal requirements for being restricted or non restricted but the problem is that our government likes to wrongly interpret the law to screw us over.
 
Hoppka47 said:
I think they were banned for appearance. The law is about stopping a culture of people building a hobby around assault style rifles. They dont want it to be normal and accepted in canadian society.

respect the state!
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They also don't want it to be normal and accepted in society to drive a car, eat meat, defend yourself, get news from un-approved sources, reject experimental medical interventions.... Paying attention?
 
dfritter1 said:
Which would open the door to MRA suing the RCMP for reclassifying its product because a third party was modifying it in a manner entirely compliant with the law.

Best of all, it doesn't even matter if the suit were successful - the mere prospect of discovery publicly showing "how the sausage is made" when it comes to classification is likely enough deterrence to make the RCMP not want to open that can of worms.
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This is a very good point.
 
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