Lockhart renegade semi auto conversion

The thing is that they do have skin in the game. They're trying to bring their own straight pull bolt action AR style rifle to market, the Conspiracy straight pull. They just announced it last Thursday, the 28th. And that rifle is priced at the same price bracket as the MRA, and has a lot of the same features.

So not only do they have skin in the game, they stand to benefit if the Mounties ban the Renegade because of Lockhart's modifications.
Which Im sure he just copied the PAR or Renegade. Why is he modding someone elses design. Not his own? Guess you haven't been on this site long. Nobody wants to be the next JR cox or EPPS.
 
I really like mine - a small fun rifle, even enjoy the manual action of it.
I got the 12” and I’m going to keep it lightweight. Something I can take on my tractor easy enough.

The other day I had big black bear come sniffing around. Beautiful animal and he ran away when I whistled at him a few times. I have no intention of harming him, but I’m not sure what his intentions are.
 
I was neither for or against this conversion as I see it as no different than adding 3rd party performance parts to an engine to achieve your desires. However, insulting people after chaos erupts is probably not the best approach.

"To those absolute CLOWNS online suggesting we’re out to sabotage MRA or get rifles pulled from the market... Seriously? Get a handle on reality. Competition is what pushes innovation forward, benefits shooters, and strengthens the industry as a whole. We want to add legal capabilities, not subtract.

MRA’s straight-pull is welcome "competition" to our upcoming Conspiracy."
 

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I got the 12” and I’m going to keep it lightweight. Something I can take on my tractor easy enough.

The other day I had big black bear come sniffing around. Beautiful animal and he ran away when I whistled at him a few times. I have no intention of harming him, but I’m not sure what his intentions are.
I have the 12" as well with an LPVO - probably going to get the 300 Black out barrel to be able to swap around.
 
How is this possibly legal?
Because there is nothing in the law that prohibits converting a manual action rifle into a semi-auto one. Full auto is out of bounds, but semi is still legal (for now).

Likely because nothing specifically says it’s illegal…
That is how our law works. All is permitted that is not expressly prohibited.

im getting so tired of these grifter companies , working up barely legal frankenstein rifles, and charging people insane money for something they will likely lose to government.
Is there a definition for 'barely legal' as opposed to 'completely legal'? Legal is legal, period.

Insane money is very subjective and you don't sound like you know what machine time costs these days.

Blame the government for stealing this gun, not the people who created it.

Why are people upset that Canadians are finding a way to adapt and overcome.

THIS IS GREAT NEWS!

Will it get banned? Oh yeah! But who cares.

Liberals hate freedom but sometimes it just can’t be stopped.
We need far more officers like yourself.

How would you charge the bolt? Do side charging handles fit on standard ar15 bcg? If so what would you need
Since the receiver has a slot for the charging handle it should be a simple matter to add one to the AR bolt carrier to suit.

Would be a real shame if it drags down all the other renegades and mavericks to prohibited.
Since people here are freaking out about getting the MRA rifles banned for a semi-auto conversion, you guys need to realize the MRA rifles are likely already considered semi-auto under the definitions passed in C-21. From the current version of the Criminal Code:

semi-automatic, in respect of a firearm, means that the firearm that is equipped with a mechanism that, following the discharge of a cartridge, automatically operates to complete any part of the reloading cycle necessary to prepare for the discharge of the next cartridge; (semi-automatique)

I wouldn't be surprised if the feds consider the bolt return spring a 'mechanism that automatically operates to complete any part of the reloading cycle'.

Should not be screwing around with someone else product. My 2 cents.
This is the only legitimate objection I have seen in this thread.


Mark
 
I was neither for or against this conversion as I see it as no different than adding 3rd party performance parts to an engine to achieve your desires. However, insulting people after chaos erupts is probably not the best approach.

"To those absolute CLOWNS online suggesting we’re out to sabotage MRA or get rifles pulled from the market... Seriously? Get a handle on reality. Competition is what pushes innovation forward, benefits shooters, and strengthens the industry as a whole. We want to add legal capabilities, not subtract.

MRA’s straight-pull is welcome "competition" to our upcoming Conspiracy."
He should put his own straight pull on the block then.
 
I was neither for or against this conversion as I see it as no different than adding 3rd party performance parts to an engine to achieve your desires. However, insulting people after chaos erupts is probably not the best approach.

"To those absolute CLOWNS online suggesting we’re out to sabotage MRA or get rifles pulled from the market... Seriously? Get a handle on reality. Competition is what pushes innovation forward, benefits shooters, and strengthens the industry as a whole. We want to add legal capabilities, not subtract.

MRA’s straight-pull is welcome "competition" to our upcoming Conspiracy."
Seems normal for Samuel. Customer service has never been his strong suit.
 
I'd pass if I had one of these mostly because I'm done dropping money on gats for the time being. But if I was hard up for a semi auto, it's nice to have options. And it makes the govts gun control look ridiculous, particularly at a time when they're starting to take heat over self defense issues. More companies should offer the service.
 
Either way, I think when we're looking back we'll have nothing or we'll be back to pre-OIC and have a hearty guffaw.

Also, if I can see a potential opportunity for the "gun lobby" to go after the gov over this. People are getting executed in their homes and charged by the police for defending themselves and the gov is wasting time and money going after boutique makes and models.
 
Because there is nothing in the law that prohibits converting a manual action rifle into a semi-auto one. Full auto is out of bounds, but semi is still legal (for now).


That is how our law works. All is permitted that is not expressly prohibited.


Is there a definition for 'barely legal' as opposed to 'completely legal'? Legal is legal, period.

Insane money is very subjective and you don't sound like you know what machine time costs these days.

Blame the government for stealing this gun, not the people who created it.


We need far more officers like yourself.


Since the receiver has a slot for the charging handle it should be a simple matter to add one to the AR bolt carrier to suit.


Since people here are freaking out about getting the MRA rifles banned for a semi-auto conversion, you guys need to realize the MRA rifles are likely already considered semi-auto under the definitions passed in C-21. From the current version of the Criminal Code:



I wouldn't be surprised if the feds consider the bolt return spring a 'mechanism that automatically operates to complete any part of the reloading cycle'.


This is the only legitimate objection I have seen in this thread.


Mark
Yes the definition of barely legal is loopholes. Look the government sucks but they have made it very clear they do not want Semi Auto tactical (buttstock, pistol grip, mlock, detachable magazine) firearms available to consumers.

So it started with bringing back old 180 designes as if they were just AR 15s, then i was just creating frankenstein ARs like crusader, then crusader made a cheap plastic mold to put on some turkish hunting rifle and now this.

All im saying is how far down the hole of potential legal issues and wasted money are you willing to go to get something that makes you feel like a special ops person. stop the cope

if you really like sport shooting then learn a different platform, and if you are prepper consider the cringe of actually thinking having a tactical 2000$ rifle is actually going to make your life anymore safe or enjoyable.


How about save up a buy a house or start a family
 
Yes the definition of barely legal is loopholes.
What loophole is this one in? The law is silent on semi-auto conversion. That isn't a loophole, it's just the law. I can take my motorcycle on a track and legally go far in excess of any posted speed limit because the law is silent on that. Is that also a loophole? Or is that just the law?

stop the cope
Fair enough, but this is how capitalism works. Lockhart spends their own money to develop a product that they think consumers want. If they're right people buy and Lockhart makes money. If they're wrong, no one buys it and they lose money. Just don't buy it if you're not interested.


Mark
 
Yes the definition of barely legal is loopholes. Look the government sucks but they have made it very clear they do not want Semi Auto tactical (buttstock, pistol grip, mlock, detachable magazine) firearms available to consumers.

So it started with bringing back old 180 designes as if they were just AR 15s, then i was just creating frankenstein ARs like crusader, then crusader made a cheap plastic mold to put on some turkish hunting rifle and now this.

All im saying is how far down the hole of potential legal issues and wasted money are you willing to go to get something that makes you feel like a special ops person. stop the cope

if you really like sport shooting then learn a different platform, and if you are prepper consider the cringe of actually thinking having a tactical 2000$ rifle is actually going to make your life anymore safe or enjoyable.


How about save up a buy a house or start a family
Mocking people for the tools they own, yep every time, location checks out.
 
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