Looking for a more expensive type of gun

Blackcloud said:
I had a go with a Sauer 202 in 300 WM (Stainless/Synthetic) and a Kimber 8400 Montana in 300 WM (Kevlar stock/Stainless). For the money, the Kimber is the nicer of the two rifles. It sells retail for almost $1000 less and shoots like a dream for an off the shelf rifle. One of my biggest surprizes was the trigger. Its THE best I've tried on a stock rifle. I have to give it to Kimber here, they really did their homework. Only complaints are that the mag is a blind mag with no floor plate and the gun is very light for a Magnum caliber. Other than that, It is as functional as the Sauer 202, a very nice rifle, and just a smooth.

For a gun I'm hauling through the bush, good enough.

Topped it off with a Leupold VXIII 3.5-10x40 and a way we go!!

Gun loves Swift A-Frames, even better.
I doubt the kimber could compare to the set trigger on the sauer. I have a sauer 202 outback in 9.3x62 with the set trigger and for a production rifle is very good. The ability to be able to change calibers in a matter of min is an added feature. Zeiss also makes makes scopes with special mounts that do not use rings for the sauer which is also an added feature.
 
cosmic said:
Cereal - Six months ago you couldnt afford spending a few hundred bucks to join a range. Que pasa? Not sure if you've even managed to go hunting for big game yet - you really havent had enough experience to establish what you truly want in a hunting rifle.
In the meantime, I suggest you invest any surplus funds you have on women and beer, assuming you're of age.

my point exactly.
I'd look for Marstar's next shipment if I were you.
 
Why not stick with your original idea, only upgrade ie: Kreighoff, Heym, Sauer, etc. make beautifull combo guns, with 12ga. X9.3X74 barrels, or a Kreighoff drilling(2-12ga. barrels on top and say a 7X65 rifle barrel) some are made so that when you move the selector button to the shotgun barrels the rifle sights disappear into the rib.
 
A custom gun does not have to be a fancy gun that you are afraid to hunt with.It can be a stainless synthetic rifle but with high quality components that provide top level accuracy and reliability.
 
Hey all,

Thanks for all these great replies. First off I should say I don't have to spend the full amount I stated up there but that was the limit. If Sako or Kimber are like BMW's of guns then that is fine and basically what I am looking for. For this hunting rig, I won't be scared to take it into the bush and accually use it. I just want a nice rifle as they are usually better.

I am not really into the idea of a custom gun as I don't even know what to do look for and what parts to ask for. I am also not into driving all around my area to get one built. A factory made gun is more then good enough.

For scopes, I didn't really want to bring it up too much but I was looking at a US Optics or Nightforce or even a Swarovski, just basically a really good scope.

I haven't done too much looking around yet but I did look on a few websites and I haven't seen any Kimber guns for sale but I have seen Sako there. I have shot a Tikka T3 and yes it's a nice gun but I want a nicer gun.

Thanks again
 
SIR mailorder has Kimbers for sale now... 999 to 1300..

I have both a Kimber and Sako, both are a huge step up from the Savages I owned.
 
I was just looking at SIR. They have a synthetic one that seems good enough. Under $1500 with tax I think and thats way below budget so I could probably also buy a nice rangefinder, spotting scope and some decent binoculars.

I also looked at Lebarons and they have a Sako 75 Stainless synthetic and a Sako 75 which have caught my eye.

Hopefully this will be a decnet jump in quality when I accually do buy one as I would like to last a long time with proper care for it ofcourse
 
Lebaron has some of their model 75 Sako's on special for around 1300 and change. The Sako's are heavier than the Kimbers, it all depends what you want and in which caliber. Both are solid choices.
 
I have a couple sakos and a kimber you wont go wrong with either
my OPINION is if your going to buy binos scopes range finder etc
buy a good scope (leupold or even an elite 4200) and put the money into amazing binos (lieca, swarovski or ziess) you will look for hours and days and weeks through these where as a scope is a 30 sec deal
 
I don't know about Kimber going or almost going bankrupt.

I have both a Kimber and a Sauer. The Sauer from P&D is a good price, however they would be just as hard or worse to find a part for. As for operation, I paid 1199$ for the Kimber new in box. For the price of one rifle to the other there is not a huge difference. Certainly not worth the retail to retail diff between the two. Both equally as accurate, Kimber is lighter and thus bucks a little more but if your playing in the Magnum calibers one should be able to deal with that. I like the trigger and the stock better on the Kimber than I do the Sauer. Performance is same, price will be a factor.

As for having parts interchangeable, there is little to no supply of those parts around Canada, and the cost is ski high!!

I certainly don't disagree that the Sauer is a very well made gun, its top notch for sure and I love it. Unless you get a screaming deal on one, I would suggest a strong look a the Kimber.

Whatever floats a guys boat right!

Good luck finding a new bang stick!!
 
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cosmic said:
Cereal - Six months ago you couldnt afford spending a few hundred bucks to join a range. Que pasa? Not sure if you've even managed to go hunting for big game yet - you really havent had enough experience to establish what you truly want in a hunting rifle.
In the meantime, I suggest you invest any surplus funds you have on women and beer, assuming you're of age.

I agree. Something is not right here. I remember a lot of debate, lack of funds and cereal purchasing the savage combo rifle. Something doesn't add up. Cereal either inherited a pile of money, won the lotto or got a damn sweet job within 5 months.

You would be better off saving up the money and putting it towards a vehicle,quad, or throwing it into a GIC or mutual Fund.

the word "fishy" comes to mind...
 
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cosmic said:
Cereal - Six months ago you couldnt afford spending a few hundred bucks to join a range. Que pasa? Not sure if you've even managed to go hunting for big game yet - you really havent had enough experience to establish what you truly want in a hunting rifle.
In the meantime, I suggest you invest any surplus funds you have on women and beer, assuming you're of age.


I have the money to join sharon, I just choose not to spend $1000 to join a range. I have the money to do alot, I just have other stuff I would rather spend the money on.

I am looking for a nice rifle so I have a decent rifle/scope combo so I go out into the field with all the advangtes that are available to me.

I haven't gone big game hunting yet and I am not 100% sure what I want in a gun but I know what I want now and if it changes, I can always sell the gun and buy a new one.

I just haven't been in the sport long enough to spend as much money as some of you do.
 
powder burner said:
I agree. Something is not right here. I remember a lot of debate, lack of funds and cereal purchasing the savage combo rifle. Something doesn't add up. Cereal either inherited a pile of money, won the lotto or got a damn sweet job within 5 months.

You would be better off saving up the money and putting it towards a vehicle,quad, or throwing it into a GIC or mutual Fund.

the word "fishy" comes to mind...


I will try to clear it up for you. I never saw the reason to spend that much on stuff before. Instead of me wasting my money buying cheap stuff, I just want to get the good stuff and be done with it. I have lots of GIC and mutal funds along with Canadian Savings bonds and lots of other investment so I don't think I need any more of those right now. I still at the same job but recently got a raise.

So to break it down, I basically want good stuff and instead of buying crap and later accually spending the money I will just spend the money now. Before I never wanted to spend more then I had to but to buy a $500 computer monitor, well I wouldn't even think of it and I accually bought 3 of them for $1500 but my views have now changed.

Not too many people I know get into a new sport and throw all the $$ they can into it unless they see a reason too and I never really saw one before a few days ago.
 
cereal83 said:
I haven't gone big game hunting yet and I am not 100% sure what I want in a gun but I know what I want now and if it changes, I can always sell the gun and buy a new one.

I just haven't been in the sport long enough to spend as much money as some of you do.

I doubt many people have $6000 to spend on a rifle/scope combo.

The problem with buying a high end rifle is that you will not get your money out of it if you don't like it. You will lose lots of money, so why not buy something cheaper like a T3 and then step up if you like the sport.
 
Don't buy a high end rifle and scope just for the "snob factor" either. Too many armchair hunters dressed in Realtree, playing with their rifles in the house, afraid to take them into the real trees.
 
I agree 100% with 1899 and gunrunner100, don't run out and grab an expensive piece of kit because it catchs your eye. Try some different rifle/caliber combos. Go to shops and some gun shows and try some rifles on for size and meet the reps from the manufactures or builder. Then look at the ones that fit very well and are built rock solid.

Really go into this knowing exactly what you want/need out of your purchase before you part with your hard earned money, there are lots of people out there who would gladly take your $6000 or so and sell you whatever. However, there are also some that will really go the extra mile to ensure you walk away with what you need. Make sure you buy from that person!

If your looking at a custom rifle, look no further than some of Canada's fines rifle builders, there are plenty. Should have no problems sourcing many of them off this board. I suggest getting together with some, looking at their wears, even try some if they can arrange that. If you decide to do business with one, make a list of what you want, parts, etc. Discuss a time frame to complete the project, put your deposit down, then sit and wait for a beutifull rifle you should own for the rest of your life!

Good luck!
 
1899, The kimber you were thinking of did go bankrupt. They built horrible rifles, both in quality and accuracy. The kimber most speak of here is a new company and has none of the problems the origional company had.
 
cereal83 said:
Hey all,

. If Sako or Kimber are like BMW's of guns then that is fine and basically what I am looking for.


These are good guns, but do not compare them with BMW !

The latest 'Consumers Report" shows the top 36 cars for reliability and BMW are almost at the bottom at # 30 , which is where they have been for quite some time now :rolleyes:
 
1899 said:
I doubt many people have $6000 to spend on a rifle/scope combo.

The problem with buying a high end rifle is that you will not get your money out of it if you don't like it. You will lose lots of money, so why not buy something cheaper like a T3 and then step up if you like the sport.

Well I have thought of this and Tikka's are nice rifles but I just wanted something a little better and it's not even that much more $$$ I mean for $500 plus tax more I get a better rifle according to alot of reviews I have been reading.

gunrunner100 said:
Don't buy a high end rifle and scope just for the "snob factor" either. Too many armchair hunters dressed in Realtree, playing with their rifles in the house, afraid to take them into the real trees.

I don't plan to buy it for that reason. I just want a high quality rifle that will last me a long time and yes the cheaper ones will probably last just as long but I dunno. I just want to spend some extra money and do things right for a change.

haggisbasher said:
cereal83 said:
Hey all,

. If Sako or Kimber are like BMW's of guns then that is fine and basically what I am looking for.


These are good guns, but do not compare them with BMW !

The latest 'Consumers Report" shows the top 36 cars for reliability and BMW are almost at the bottom at # 30 , which is where they have been for quite some time now :rolleyes:


;) BMW are still great cars. I don't know what is better then a BMW M3 in the same price range.
 
Get into custom Shotguns, and Rifles...that $6,000 would be but a down payment. :D

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