Don't forget long bows.
Looks like the Liberals have every semi MILSURP on the prohib list now.
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Don't forget long bows.
Get on the CCFR page and write your letters. Im getting mine in this weekend. Haven't bought stamps in awhile but here's to getting back to history in the spirit of milsurps.
https://firearmrights.ca/bury-their-desks-in-letters/
Take action please and this is the way to do it. Make your statement here and now.
https://firearmrights.ca/bury-their-desks-in-letters/
Take action please and this is the way to do it. Make your statement here and now.
If you are sending a letter to an MP you don't need a stamp
h ttps://www.ourcommons.ca/en/contact-us
Mail may be sent postage-free to any Member of Parliament at the following address:
[Name of Member of Parliament]
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada
K1A 0A6
Not exactly. Don't be passive and assume that the Liberals will be turfed and that the Conservatives will reverse everything. People need to get engaged and become politically active. Write letters to remind Conservatives that they need to work for your votes and there are a lot of votes in play with firearms owners, friends and families.
Write your MP, no matter what party, to express your disagreement with this action, energize your gun club, write letters to the local paper, join and donate to the CPC and volunteer to work for the CPC in the next election. The CPC isn't the perfect solution, but they are the last best hope. Pinning your hopes on the PPC is counter productive; they will never win and will only split the vote to the benefit of the opposition.
Make no mistake; this move is driven by politics and can only be reversed by political action. Be polite, but be determined.
steamy teabag
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Wise words.
stencollector
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As I recall there was a mauser that somoene had customized to .416 if I recall, and could put out the required 10,000 joules of energy. The OIC (which they are now enshrining by legislation) stated that "any action capable of...." so the fact that there is one of these rifles out there indicates that the action is capable of handling that cartridge, therefore making all the similar mausers prohibited.
I had noticed this back when the OIC came out, but at that time they didn't seem to go any further with it. Now they have.
This is just my assessment of the situation....take it for what you paid for it.
Please please please...if someone is considering converting their Enfield to 416 Rigby....don't.
I stand corrected: It was conversions to 460 WBY Mag that was the caliber that likely resulted in them being prohibited.
I had noticed this back when the OIC came out, but at that time they didn't seem to go any further with it. Now they have.
This is just my assessment of the situation....take it for what you paid for it.
Please please please...if someone is considering converting their Enfield to 416 Rigby....don't.
I stand corrected: It was conversions to 460 WBY Mag that was the caliber that likely resulted in them being prohibited.
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A 600 NE cartridge operates at pressure levels safe for guns made back in 1890. It would be safe in almost any modern action large enough to house it.
460 Weatherby operates at 65,000psi. Again most modern rifle actions long enough to take it are also strong enough to shoot it.
10,000 J of muzzle energy is high, but it was a completely arbitrary number. 50BMG produces 20% more, and it apparently was their target.
460 Weatherby operates at 65,000psi. Again most modern rifle actions long enough to take it are also strong enough to shoot it.
10,000 J of muzzle energy is high, but it was a completely arbitrary number. 50BMG produces 20% more, and it apparently was their target.
Brutus
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If we are discussing the Brazilian Mauser 1908, I understand it's in reality a large ring K98 action merely chambered in 7x57. That action is plenty strong. Plus the fact it was built in 1930s peacetime with a superior finish only increases its value. Myself I have never heard of an inaccurate Brazilian that was well cared for.
Even 22lr variants of the M1 carbine are on there. So Chiappa m1 carbines in 22lr, Erma works EM1's etc...
Technically even things like Winchester model 70's or model 94's were designed for sale in wars and used in wars. They can point to the vast majority of rifles for this purpose as large swaths of stuff were used in many conflicts over large periods of times. Hell even the Israeli's used a Ruger 10/22 as crowd control rifles during mass rioting. Make no mistake people they are literally going after everything.
Technically even things like Winchester model 70's or model 94's were designed for sale in wars and used in wars. They can point to the vast majority of rifles for this purpose as large swaths of stuff were used in many conflicts over large periods of times. Hell even the Israeli's used a Ruger 10/22 as crowd control rifles during mass rioting. Make no mistake people they are literally going after everything.
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stencollector
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I added this to my original post, but will also add it here. I looked up on the armalytics pages, and it appears to be the 460 Weatherby Magnum that got the Mausers onto the chopping block. There are a few different models that have been converted to 460 and at this point they merely listed those particular examples as prohibited. However, they now seem to be using the phrase about "capable of" to expand it to the actual receivers no matter what their caliber.
The phrase "capable of" may have been to prevent converting some of the larger rifles into smaller calibers to work around the prohibition.
I note that master list also includes a lot of firearms that are currently under 12X classes. Is it possible they are attempting to re-classify these to a non-grandfathered prohib class in order to speed up the end of ownership of some of these?
The phrase "capable of" may have been to prevent converting some of the larger rifles into smaller calibers to work around the prohibition.
I note that master list also includes a lot of firearms that are currently under 12X classes. Is it possible they are attempting to re-classify these to a non-grandfathered prohib class in order to speed up the end of ownership of some of these?
Capable of was in the original OiC wording too.
Yes. Just like adding the banned guns of the OIC may in fact circumvent the need to compensate us. Regulation does no trump law, Bill-C-21 has no mention of compensation for any of the firearms they wish to ban by name through legislation.
The other day Medicino (tues or weds, so after the amendment was tabled) said compensation will be based on the new definition of prohibited. So they're at least still telling the press that we will be compensated.
IMO this is the best angle of attack we have. Lots of Canadians don't give a #### about guns, but we all care about money, and even most Liberal voters are smart enough to know that $10B spent to take guns from hunters and farmers could be spent on far more effective things.
Amendments to legislation that has passed first reading, are not allowed if they occur additional costs attached to the bill, thus no compensation. If they offered compensation they could not get the amendment approved through using such slimy methods.
