Low Budget 10/22 "Pocket Rifle" SBR Project

Tom E Gun said:
I thought I would update this old thread. I have accumulated all the parts with the exception of the barrel (custom McGowen 6" on order from Mystic Precision).

I intend to replace the broken/damaged plastic stock with a custom modified Ruger birch stock and AR pistol grip and just reuse the stainless folder. The fake suppressor is just to show approximately what it will look like with a barrel. The actual barrel will be approx 1" shorter.
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Looks good.
What's the completed OAL?
Do you plan to permanently affix the folding butt stock in the "open" position?
 
I've seen some ebay knock off of the ARUL stock for around $60 US. At that price, its getting close to the MFT stock. Need to find a seller who will ship to Canada.

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leosnipes said:
Cool little rifles. How exactly does the law work on them though? the non-restricted of 26" is when the rifle with stock collapsed/folded or has to be fully extended? Also, with the 10/22 design, wouldn't a 8" or shorter barrel has problems with some low velocity rounds?
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My understanding of the law is that if it measures less than 26" when folded then it is restricted. I started this project assuming that the rifle would be restricted, which is fine with me, I already own multiple restricted pistols and a restricted AR-15. I have 3 other NR 10/22's for when I want to shoot away from the local range.
I can tell you that my 8" Non-Restricted SR-22 has no problems at all cycling any type of ammo including subsonic. Will this be the case for my new 6"? Maybe not, but I am willing to tinker with it and ultimately as long as it runs on any one type of bulk ammo I will be happy.
 
little_airwolf said:
Unless Tom has done all the paperwork to get his rifle reg as a pistol, hes breaking the law and telling everyone about it.
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I am confused by your comment, how is having a receiver with no barrel breaking the law exactly? Also, since you mentioned it, I don't intend to register it as a pistol. I intend to install it with the 6" barrel on a rifle stock, then register it as a restricted length rifle, then change to the folding stock. That way I can always return it to NR status by installing a longer barrel. However if I register it as a pistol it can never change back to NR. Thats the plan anyway, if I have it wrong, i'm sure the nice folks at the CFC will set be straight when I contact them.
 
Tom E Gun said:
Great video !
I am curious, how often do you use the iron sights vs the red dot? I have the same red dot, but no other sights on my "pocket rifle".
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The iron sights were as much for the look as for the function. lol

I also wanted good iron sights so I could get better with iron sights and then as my kids grow teach them to use iron sights.

I also wanted a backup set of sights in case the optic/battery died.

That was actually my first time shooting the gun with the iron sights, I didn't even get it fully sighted in I was too excited to just get out and shoot it. :)
 
Tom E Gun said:
My understanding of the law is that if it measures less than 26" when folded then it is restricted. I started this project assuming that the rifle would be restricted, which is fine with me, I already own multiple restricted pistols and a restricted AR-15. I have 3 other NR 10/22's for when I want to shoot away from the local range.
I can tell you that my 8" Non-Restricted SR-22 has no problems at all cycling any type of ammo including subsonic. Will this be the case for my new 6"? Maybe not, but I am willing to tinker with it and ultimately as long as it runs on any one type of bulk ammo I will be happy.
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thanks! so I've been thinking about starting a shorty lately. got 3 10/22s, all with regular barrel length, I'll probably start from finding a 8" or 9" bull barrel for the old one...

How do you reclassify a once NR rifle? Call the CFO and tell them, "hey, I've got a rifle with serial# ###XX that became too short...", and they'll just send you some paperwork? I have no intention to do such a thing, just curious.
 
leosnipes said:
How do you reclassify a once NR rifle? Call the CFO and tell them, "hey, I've got a rifle with serial# ###XX that became too short...", and they'll just send you some paperwork? I have no intention to do such a thing, just curious.
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I have not done this before, so it will be a learning experience for me. I intend to "mock-up" the rifle with 6" barrel on a Ruger oem wood stock. I will modify the front of the stock so the barrel protrudes past the end of the stock. When I say "mock-up" I mean loosely fit together but not assembled, with no bolt or trigger group attached. I will take a photo with a tape measure, showing the overall length (it should be approx 24"). I will e-mail this photo to the CFC/CFO and ask to register this configuration as a restricted length rifle. I expect that they will tell me to take the firearm to a local verifier, see below (from the RCMP website):

"A restricted firearm being registered for the first time in Canada – for example, a new import – must be verified by an approved verifier. Restricted firearms that have previously been registered in Canada are already deemed to be verified. They do not need to be verified again unless the Registrar requests another verification to confirm their description or classification. Call the CFP for help to have a firearm verified."

I actually foresee a problem with this approach. I don't think this sentence applies since I am simply installing a factory built barrel:

"...a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise..."

I expect they will tell me that this 24" +/- rifle is NOT restricted. I know this goes against the common belief on CGN (that any .22 that has an OAL below 26" is restricted), and I may be wrong, but if this occurs I may have no choice than to register it as a pistol with the folding stock installed.

Whatever the outcome, it should be interesting and I will post the results in this thread.
 
Tom E Gun said:
I have not done this before, so it will be a learning experience for me. I intend to "mock-up" the rifle with 6" barrel on a Ruger oem wood stock. I will modify the front of the stock so the barrel protrudes past the end of the stock. When I say "mock-up" I mean loosely fit together but not assembled, with no bolt or trigger group attached. I will take a photo with a tape measure, showing the overall length (it should be approx 24"). I will e-mail this photo to the CFC/CFO and ask to register this configuration as a restricted length rifle. I expect that they will tell me to take the firearm to a local verifier, see below (from the RCMP website):

"A restricted firearm being registered for the first time in Canada – for example, a new import – must be verified by an approved verifier. Restricted firearms that have previously been registered in Canada are already deemed to be verified. They do not need to be verified again unless the Registrar requests another verification to confirm their description or classification. Call the CFP for help to have a firearm verified."

I actually foresee a problem with this approach. I don't think this sentence applies since I am simply installing a factory built barrel:

"...a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise..."

I expect they will tell me that this 24" +/- rifle is NOT restricted. I know this goes against the common belief on CGN (that any .22 that has an OAL below 26" is restricted), and I may be wrong, but if this occurs I may have no choice than to register it as a pistol with the folding stock installed.

Whatever the outcome, it should be interesting and I will post the results in this thread.
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But if you register it as a pistol and it fits rifle mags with a capacity higher than 10 won't it confuse the morons at the CFC:)?
 
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