M+M CEO Considered Pulling M10X Rifle From Canada After Brouhaha - CDN Gun Blog
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Apples and oranges dude, and your truth seeking is very narrow. Have at it.
Lots of people paid attention to the nonsense that happened with the CSA / VZs. You are going to see their value steadily nosedive to where they should be with the introduction of the T81. Competition will do that.
There are a few still in la-la land asking for $1200-1400 their used examples and one fellow in the EE asking ~$1100 for his restricted model, but those dreaming in technicolor are usually eventually brought around.
Not if NS called them and said that Canadian schmucks will be lining up for it at $2K, as their "competition" is $1K more and selling well.
Look at the FAMAE, $2K rifle at best, listed at $2.7K and I remember people per-ordering it.
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I have no doubt that people have and will pre-order this rifle, and other rifles that are far more expensive.
Maybe you're right, based on releases from MnM, they don't present as too clever, maybe NS blew smoke and they saw dollars...
As a one trick pony, I would be aiming for volume sales at a profitable margin, not mediocre sales at max margin.
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Here's what some Americans think of the M+M offering.
Quite a few negative thoughts and reviews by the look of it .......
" The M10 is a Romanian WASR with ####ty accessories. If you're going to buy a WASR, get one without the mall ninja bull#### and tac it out with parts that are worth owning. "
I like this comment @ $1149 USD selling price
" 1/2 the parts of an AK but twice the price of an AK .
How does that work ? "
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Just a couple comments I found after a quick Google search.
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Quite a few negative thoughts and reviews by the look of it .......
" The M10 is a Romanian WASR with ####ty accessories. If you're going to buy a WASR, get one without the mall ninja bull#### and tac it out with parts that are worth owning. "
I like this comment @ $1149 USD selling price
" 1/2 the parts of an AK but twice the price of an AK .
How does that work ? "
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Just a couple comments I found after a quick Google search.
Just saying '
The M10 is an AK....
How this equates to "quite a few negative reviews" about the M10X is beyond me.
I was making a broad overview comment.
I know it's not an AK.
We all know the marketing ploy of M+M #notanak
All I was trying to bring forth was some the reviews of the M10 I found after a Google search.
I was also pointing out the displeasure felt by some that actually own the rifle and paid $1149 USD for it and what their thoughts were.
Do with the info what you will , read it ignore it .
Really doesn't matter to me.
Broad overview of what?
You post one unattributed comment about an unrelated firearm, and that represents a "broad overview of quite a few negative comments"?
More BS.
Go do a Google search of reviews for yourself and see what you see.
As I said take it or leave it ......
All I know is this rifle is not for me.
If you want to buy it you are free to do so. If you buy said rifle I hope you can prove me wrong.
I fully hope you enjoy it and gives you years of future enjoyment.
I would love to put my faith in said rifle as well as M+M as a company.
I am not willing to do that at this time.
Your reviews were about the M10X obviously, the M10-762 is an actual Romanian AK at $500+/-. The M10X is the "half AK but twice the price" rifle. Some of these dudes have blurry vision with their noses burried so far up M&M's ass...
It's not for me either. Only positive reviews seem to be paid advertising reviews, very few end user reviews and they are usually mixed at best, with 100% completely in agreement it's priced way to high for what it is at $1000+.
$2000...well I hope NS has lots of long term storage in their warehouse, cuz they will be sitting they a looong time.
I have searched out and reached conclusions regarding the actual rifle in question; not just posting random unrelated non-sense to help muddy the waters.
I'm personally all for a non-res AK hybrid, with nice kit, and modern mounting options. The reviews are favorable enough, and the domestic market dry enough, for me to accept the price tag. Of course the same haters are going to call anything positive fake news fanboy-ism, and critique the rifle because it's not a chrome dipped sub-MOA SKS that can shoot with a shovel full of sand in the reciever. I'm going to judge the rifle fairly, in hand, and have fun.
Had Wanstalls not prematurely ejaculated in public, and help spawn this witch hunt, I suspect none of this would have been an issue; even if the final MSRP turned out to be $1999.
This faux outrage over the pricing and distribution has devolved into outright libelious and unsubstantiated accusations and claims. We have collectively been taken advantage of as a small firearms market for a long time, by all parties, but that's the way the non-competitive infrastructure is setup against us, sadly.
You don't like it? Start your own import/distribution company, or find a new hobby.
See, this is where you and the other fanboy nuthuggers go off the rails.
VERY VERY FEW would have accepted the $2000 retail price here, when they sell for $1000 in the US.
Wanstalls price made sense because $1450 is basically US dealer pricing, + conversion, and a decent 25-30% markup for them. Prophet/IRG etc could bring them in cheaper then that still if someone wanted to go that route.
$2000 here makes NO SENSE at all for a $1000USD rifle.
The point I was making is in regards to the reaction to the situation.
People will always be pro or con to a price; but when you promise an obviously unrealistic price (CANAM knew the price was going to be $2k+) and do not deliver, it creates a hostility toward a number of parties, unwarranted or not.
You can continue with your insults and ignorant assumptions; it just invalidates any points you may occasionally make.
