M14 Scope mount photos
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Loven that handguard rail...
Damm she looks sweet.
Damm she looks sweet.
This photo shows the underside of a group of Scout Hand Guards (SHG) from M14.ca. Available now via tel. order for $219.95. A few points of note:
1. Our proprietary steel bracket design ensures a strong, lightweight, uniform fitment to standard contour m14/m1a barrels, some of which can vary in dimension, often significantly. This “optically precise” fit, and the security of the massive contact surfaces aligning and maintaining this fit, are critical to ensure retention of zero with any optical devices installed on the SHG.
2. A total of 14 pre-hardened steel fasteners unitize SHG to barrel at 3 key locations to offer the strongest and most secure fitment available
3. The SHG is as low as the receiver flat top at the barrel ring, yet it still has an opening at sides for 10 and 2 o'clock 4" picatinny rails - Blackfeather ships with 2, 4" picatinny rails which you can move, if desired to these positions.
4. Blackfeather customers enjoy true rail to barrel indexing simplifying installation with these stocks.
5. Weight of the M14.ca SHG is 186 grams or 6.56oz. (just double that of a US GI fibreglass stock).
Here is a flat dark earth SHG (limited quantities) on a Boyds Walnut stock.
1. Our proprietary steel bracket design ensures a strong, lightweight, uniform fitment to standard contour m14/m1a barrels, some of which can vary in dimension, often significantly. This “optically precise” fit, and the security of the massive contact surfaces aligning and maintaining this fit, are critical to ensure retention of zero with any optical devices installed on the SHG.
2. A total of 14 pre-hardened steel fasteners unitize SHG to barrel at 3 key locations to offer the strongest and most secure fitment available
3. The SHG is as low as the receiver flat top at the barrel ring, yet it still has an opening at sides for 10 and 2 o'clock 4" picatinny rails - Blackfeather ships with 2, 4" picatinny rails which you can move, if desired to these positions.
4. Blackfeather customers enjoy true rail to barrel indexing simplifying installation with these stocks.
5. Weight of the M14.ca SHG is 186 grams or 6.56oz. (just double that of a US GI fibreglass stock).
Here is a flat dark earth SHG (limited quantities) on a Boyds Walnut stock.
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Now this is neat, and Canadian to boot. I think I might have to get one...
This photo shows the underside of a group of Scout Hand Guards (SHG) from M14.ca. Available now via tel. order for $219.95. A few points of note:
1. Our proprietary steel bracket design ensures a strong, lightweight, uniform fitment to standard contour m14/m1a barrels, some of which can vary in dimension, often significantly. This “optically precise” fit, and the security of the massive contact surfaces aligning and maintaining this fit, are critical to ensure retention of zero with any optical devices installed on the SHG.
2. A total of 14 pre-hardened steel fasteners unitize SHG to barrel at 3 key locations to offer the strongest and most secure fitment available
3. The SHG is as low as the receiver flat top at the barrel ring, yet it still has an opening at sides for 10 and 2 o'clock 4" picatinny rails - Blackfeather ships with 2, 4" picatinny rails which you can move, if desired to these positions.
4. Blackfeather customers enjoy true rail to barrel indexing simplifying installation with these stocks.
5. Weight of the M14.ca SHG is 186 grams or 6.56oz. (just double that of a US GI fibreglass stock).
Here is a flat dark earth SHG (limited quantities) on a Boyds Walnut stock.
Shown here is the net weight gain to the M14 rifle of only 1oz. when installing a CASM scope mount and replacing the rear iron sights.. Given this fact, the aluminum "CASM" scope mount is the lightest scope mount solution in the world at this writing for the M14. While the built-in non-adjustable rear BUS included with the "CASM" scope mount may not be as convenient or as fine in adjustment as the M14 rear sight it replaces, for use as a true BUS system, intended primarily for back up or emergency use, with instant access to iron sights with the optic mounted, with iron sights that are zeroed for practical use at practical distances (we say, 250 meters), the CASM BUS works as designed and is 100% reliable. Another advantage here is the slight but noticeable rearward weight shift of the CASM-equipped and scoped M14. Unlike Brookfield-inspired scope mounts that seat the scope mount forward of the iron sights, adding up to 10.4 ounces of weight, the CASM scope mount sits further back in the rear sight pocket altering the tipping point of the M14. In this regard, swing weight is advantaged to the rifleman. The effect is that it "feels" lighter as the rifle is moved often and quickly through a course of fire.
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To answer your question; steel is stronger than aluminum, but our aluminum mount uses the harder 7075 series aluminum, not the softer 6061. We chose 7075 series because it has higher fatigue strength and is almost twice as hard as 6061 series aluminum. A comparison can be seen here if there is interest. Often, 7075 aluminum is compared to steel but obviously it is not steel. If you want ultimate strength and don't mind the higher price, I recommend steel (I also sometimes say, if you use steel rings, use a steel scope mount but it is not a rule I haven't broken). If you want light weight, a reasonable price and a reliable mount that is made from the harder 7075 series aluminum and you're going to use aluminum rings, I'd recommend an aluminum CASM scope mount. Most people buy the aluminum mount because of the price and weight and the known reliability of this part. It is present on thousands of M14 rifles and has been in the marketplace for 4 years and is Made in Canada. Unfortunately, steel takes 3x longer to machine, wears tools faster and costs slightly more to black oxide in smaller batches (hence the higher price). Do you need a steel scope mount? Probably not, but it is a beautilful piece of machining and interestingly, it is lighter and sets up faster than a Brookfield Precision Tool scope mount. Here are a few other points to consider when you compare a Brookfield Precision Tool clone to the M14.ca CASM GEN II design:
1. Removing the M14 rear iron sights which weigh 2.8oz and adding a 3.8oz. CASM GEN II, 7075 series aluminum scope mount (with backup sight) to your M14 adds only 1oz. of weight to your rifle. In this regard, the CASM is the lightest M14 scope mount solution ever made.
2. The CASM GEN II scope mount sets up in the rear sight pocket of your M14. This mounting location offers the following advantages: A. It allows you to mount a scope or short eye releif scope further rearward. B. For heavier scopes, the rearward position affords a slightly better tipping point balance than 3 point designs forward of the iron sights (i.e., rearward optics weight shift). The effect is that optics "feel" lighter as they are positioned closer to your body. And, in this regard, the optimal swing weight at the muzzle is maintained for fastest handling and the best stability.
3. The CASM GEN II (6.25") and the CASM GEN II "EX" (9.25") are the longest M14 scope mounts available and are part of a greater "system" we designed for the M14 that we termed "Stepped Plane Optics on the M14-type Rifle." (See this PDF).
4. The CASM GEN II scope mount will never require any form of gunsmithing. This cannot be said of any other M14 scope mount, particularly those that are based on the Brookfield Precision Tool 3 point design.
5. While the built-in non-adjustable rear BUS included with the CASM mount may not be as convenient or as fine in adjustment as the M14 rear sight it replaces, for use as a true BUS system, intended primarily for back up or emergency use, with instant access to iron sights with the optic mounted, with iron sights that are zeroed for practical use at practical distances, the BUS works well, we say, 250 meters.
6. The CASM scope mount is a scope mount that is double-locked with additional set screws (each of the large 1/4-20 and the 5/16-18 steel fasteners have their own 10-24 socket set set screw to lock them in place). With the supplied blue Loctite, you are triple locking the mount to the receiver to ensure nothing will shoot loose.
7. The CASM scope mount is the only M14-type scope mount that is adjustable for elevation prior to installation therefore even if you run out of come ups on your scope for extremely long range, you can adjust the mount.
8. Lastly, the CASM scope mount is easy to install and will set up on your M14 in less than 10 minutes.
If I can answer any other questions, please call me direct 8am to 8pm PST.
-Frank G., CEO/Product Developer, M14.ca
tel. 250 721 3444
1. Removing the M14 rear iron sights which weigh 2.8oz and adding a 3.8oz. CASM GEN II, 7075 series aluminum scope mount (with backup sight) to your M14 adds only 1oz. of weight to your rifle. In this regard, the CASM is the lightest M14 scope mount solution ever made.
2. The CASM GEN II scope mount sets up in the rear sight pocket of your M14. This mounting location offers the following advantages: A. It allows you to mount a scope or short eye releif scope further rearward. B. For heavier scopes, the rearward position affords a slightly better tipping point balance than 3 point designs forward of the iron sights (i.e., rearward optics weight shift). The effect is that optics "feel" lighter as they are positioned closer to your body. And, in this regard, the optimal swing weight at the muzzle is maintained for fastest handling and the best stability.
3. The CASM GEN II (6.25") and the CASM GEN II "EX" (9.25") are the longest M14 scope mounts available and are part of a greater "system" we designed for the M14 that we termed "Stepped Plane Optics on the M14-type Rifle." (See this PDF).
4. The CASM GEN II scope mount will never require any form of gunsmithing. This cannot be said of any other M14 scope mount, particularly those that are based on the Brookfield Precision Tool 3 point design.
5. While the built-in non-adjustable rear BUS included with the CASM mount may not be as convenient or as fine in adjustment as the M14 rear sight it replaces, for use as a true BUS system, intended primarily for back up or emergency use, with instant access to iron sights with the optic mounted, with iron sights that are zeroed for practical use at practical distances, the BUS works well, we say, 250 meters.
6. The CASM scope mount is a scope mount that is double-locked with additional set screws (each of the large 1/4-20 and the 5/16-18 steel fasteners have their own 10-24 socket set set screw to lock them in place). With the supplied blue Loctite, you are triple locking the mount to the receiver to ensure nothing will shoot loose.
7. The CASM scope mount is the only M14-type scope mount that is adjustable for elevation prior to installation therefore even if you run out of come ups on your scope for extremely long range, you can adjust the mount.
8. Lastly, the CASM scope mount is easy to install and will set up on your M14 in less than 10 minutes.
If I can answer any other questions, please call me direct 8am to 8pm PST.
-Frank G., CEO/Product Developer, M14.ca
tel. 250 721 3444
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No way around that or else he will run into the same issue's that other mounts have. What I think they should do is a rear pocket rail at the same level as there hand guard rail and then one ring would go on the handguard and the other on the rear pocket rail. But then again I ain't no mail man that pretends to know stuff. I just shoot a lot
Troy Battlerail and Leupold QRW low rings.
how do you like the battle rail? was thinking of picking one up.
