M38 Jeep Restoration
- Thread starter Hawkshadow
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Coyote Ugly
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Exactly. You should see some of the muscle cars being restored with no floor pans or trunk pan due to rust - you can see daylight right through and holes big enough for a horse to fall through.
That tub is awesome and very useable.
Well it was mothers day so of course I spent the day working on the jeep before making her dinner 
Out came the tools and we prepared to strip as many pieces off as possible!
First came the starter. The teeth look in good shape.
Next came the rad with only minor protest from the support struts.
The distributor finally gave in after some loosening taps from the rubber mallet. In this picture you can see the fly wheel through the port for the starter, as well as the port for the distributor.
With pretty well everything stripped off of the right side of the engine, it was time to move back to the left to address that manifold. One of the studs snapped, and another nut was rusted right to the stud and it unscrewed from the block. I'm not too worried as I plan on having them all replaced when the engine is re-done. The worst snap came when the bolt screwing into the bottom of the exhaust manifold snapped... That's going to take some work and pondering...
BUT! here is the manifold starting to give way:
Manifold face:
Where the manifold mounts to the block:
As you can see there is a side access plate. This is a unique feature of these old motors. Behind the plate are your valves and tappets. I removed the plate, and they appear in good condition.
Here is my collection of parts removed recently (minus the generator. No reason for that beast to be lifted above the lower shelf!)
There is a Part Source around the corner where they do complimentary testing of your electronic components (starters, alternators and such). I gave them a call and the guy thinks they can accommodate 24volt. I'll try to drop over there in the next little while.
We're rapidly approaching engine-removal time!
Out came the tools and we prepared to strip as many pieces off as possible!
First came the starter. The teeth look in good shape.
Next came the rad with only minor protest from the support struts.
The distributor finally gave in after some loosening taps from the rubber mallet. In this picture you can see the fly wheel through the port for the starter, as well as the port for the distributor.
With pretty well everything stripped off of the right side of the engine, it was time to move back to the left to address that manifold. One of the studs snapped, and another nut was rusted right to the stud and it unscrewed from the block. I'm not too worried as I plan on having them all replaced when the engine is re-done. The worst snap came when the bolt screwing into the bottom of the exhaust manifold snapped... That's going to take some work and pondering...
BUT! here is the manifold starting to give way:
Manifold face:
Where the manifold mounts to the block:
As you can see there is a side access plate. This is a unique feature of these old motors. Behind the plate are your valves and tappets. I removed the plate, and they appear in good condition.
Here is my collection of parts removed recently (minus the generator. No reason for that beast to be lifted above the lower shelf!)
There is a Part Source around the corner where they do complimentary testing of your electronic components (starters, alternators and such). I gave them a call and the guy thinks they can accommodate 24volt. I'll try to drop over there in the next little while.
We're rapidly approaching engine-removal time!
I give you a progress report! Hopefully it should take some of the heat off of Vettes and feed Claven's insatiable hunger for pictures.
The fan and water pump came off.
The water pump looks in good shape and should clean up nicely
Next came the thermostat housing. One of the bolts was rusted partially through and twisted right apart with little warning..
I believe that the thermostat should pop right out, but I didn't force it at the time.
Moving forward slightly, we removed the front bumper, and the wood that was inside.
This allowed for good pictures of the two small cuts in the frame. Still trying to figure out whey they were done....
Left
Right
I am quickly approaching the end of small tasks before the engine comes out. A friend offered up his hoist, but when he went to look for it he realized that he must have lent it out before and can't remember who it went to... (Apparently this happens when you get old) Does anyone know if Part Source or Napa has them as a part of their loan-a-tool program, or might someone in the GTA be willing to loan the use of theirs for an hour?
The fan and water pump came off.
The water pump looks in good shape and should clean up nicely
Next came the thermostat housing. One of the bolts was rusted partially through and twisted right apart with little warning..
I believe that the thermostat should pop right out, but I didn't force it at the time.
Moving forward slightly, we removed the front bumper, and the wood that was inside.
This allowed for good pictures of the two small cuts in the frame. Still trying to figure out whey they were done....
Left
Right
I am quickly approaching the end of small tasks before the engine comes out. A friend offered up his hoist, but when he went to look for it he realized that he must have lent it out before and can't remember who it went to... (Apparently this happens when you get old
) Does anyone know if Part Source or Napa has them as a part of their loan-a-tool program, or might someone in the GTA be willing to loan the use of theirs for an hour?
Thanks buddy, lol. You got this from your cuz? I believe he was bugging me to restore it for him a few tears ago.
andy aka vettes
andy aka vettes
Hopefully it should take some of the heat off of Vettes and feed Claven's insatiable hunger for pictures.
M38 Jeep resto
You need to call Marcus and Sonja Snider at willysacres.com They will have all the parts you need. Also try g503.com you will find all the advice you could ever want and it's a great place to get all the accessories...weapons, radio and all kinds of goodies!!
Steve Granger
MVPA 18043
1942 Willys MB "SCRIPT"
You need to call Marcus and Sonja Snider at willysacres.com They will have all the parts you need. Also try g503.com you will find all the advice you could ever want and it's a great place to get all the accessories...weapons, radio and all kinds of goodies!!
Steve Granger
MVPA 18043
1942 Willys MB "SCRIPT"
Didn't have a lot of time to work on it, but I got the head off to get a quick look inside.
Next I will clean out the crud and get a good look at the cylinder walls. From what I could see, things looked good.
Underside of the head. Again, I will be cleaning it up next time to get a closer look but things look good so far.
I am by no means an engine expert so if any of you who are notice something that I miss, please point it out!
Next I will clean out the crud and get a good look at the cylinder walls. From what I could see, things looked good.
Underside of the head. Again, I will be cleaning it up next time to get a closer look but things look good so far.
I am by no means an engine expert so if any of you who are notice something that I miss, please point it out!
Rifleman1911
CGN Regular
- Location
- Leduc county AB
Look at the cyl wall of #3. ( assume that the pic was taken from the front of the eng.) are those scoring marks on the cyl wall or is that just a reflection in the photo. did you do a compression test yet, find any cylinders lower than the others?
Have you planned to do a rebuild? or did it run before. ( I have read the whole thread but cannot remember if it ran) The other cyl walls look good. nice project BTW.
Rifleman.
Have you planned to do a rebuild? or did it run before. ( I have read the whole thread but cannot remember if it ran) The other cyl walls look good. nice project BTW.
Rifleman.
Hey Rifleman,
That picture was taken from the back of the engine looking forward. I didn't have much time with the jeep when I pulled the head off, but next time down I'll clean it up and get all of those answers!
The jeep reportedly ran when it was last operated which was about 3-4 years ago. I didn't try to start it before I began tearing it down because of the state it was in, and I was planning to do an engine rebuild anyway.
I'm just gathering information right now deciding which shop to send it out to. I'm looking to do a full rebuild - stripped, magnafluxed, re-studded, rebuilt, and painted in original grey engine coat.
That picture was taken from the back of the engine looking forward. I didn't have much time with the jeep when I pulled the head off, but next time down I'll clean it up and get all of those answers!
The jeep reportedly ran when it was last operated which was about 3-4 years ago. I didn't try to start it before I began tearing it down because of the state it was in, and I was planning to do an engine rebuild anyway.
I'm just gathering information right now deciding which shop to send it out to. I'm looking to do a full rebuild - stripped, magnafluxed, re-studded, rebuilt, and painted in original grey engine coat.
Rifleman1911
CGN Regular
- Location
- Leduc county AB
I love what you are doing. I wish I had the balls to start a project like that. keep it up and you will have something to be proud of.
rifleman
rifleman
