"magnumitis"

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My 9.3x62 has more recoil energy than my 300 WM. The heaviest recoiling firearm I've shot is a 458 WM. A good shooter either needs to learn to manage recoil or to avoid it. I'd rather manage it but it's a personal choice. That said, I shoot my 308 and 223 a LOT more than my 300 WM. A sporter weight 300 is not particularly enjoyable after the first 3 rounds. Most I've shot in one range trip is 20 rounds but I go to the range a lot. Sometimes multiple times in one day if I'm doing load development. My new 308 is awesome because it matches the feel and trigger of my 300 :-D. Both are Savage 10/110 rifles.
 
When I bought my new rifle for this hunting season I had a choice between and 300 win 'magnum' and a 30 nosler. ..chose the 30 nosler because it didn't say magnum. ...šŸ˜
 
track said:
Oh, if you only knew. Come follow me in the bush on a big ole whitetail buck track, utilizing old fashion hunting skills. Your tongue will be hanging out so far that you'll be licking your boots.;)
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ah ah .... but you are using scope? there is nothing worst than a radical talking but not doing ...
 
medvedqc said:
i saw scope and binocs therefore you are not qualifying yourself ....
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Come along with me this autumn, you'll have clean shinny boots everyday. I'll even carry all your electronic funky gadgets for you and teach you how to shoot a 300 Wby. sans flinch.;)
 
Several of my buddies were struck by manumits in the early 1990s. They all started buying the bigger and faster cartridges, continually upgrading as newer cartridges hit the market. Only one of them could actually manage the recoil and shoot well with the big magnums. The rest all complained that their rifles were not very accurate, or there was something wrong with the loads. Every time, I gave their rifles a check. To humour them I relapped their rings, remounted the scopes, double checked the bedding, etc. Then I would hit the range and bring them targets with beautiful cloverleafs from shelf ammo to show them there was nothing wrong with their rifles, scope mounts, scopes, or loads. The same guys also laughed at my puny 6mm Remington and 270 Winchester, but were always amazed how I filled my tags every year, most of them one shot kills.

I praise skill over kit any day. That said, I too own a few magnums, but can honestly say I shoot them very well and the recoil does not bother me. But, my favourite cartridges are still the slow, boring, and ancient, such as 30-06, 270Win, 35Whelen, 260Rem, 7-08, 308Win, 358Win, and 30-30.
 
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Several of my buddies were struck by manumits in the early 1990s. They all started buying the bigger and faster cartridges, continually upgrading as newer cartridges hit the market. Only one of them could actually manage the recoil and shoot well with the big magnums. The rest all complained that their rifles were not very accurate, or there was something wrong with the loads. Every time, I gave their rifles a check. To humour them I related their rings, remounted the scopes, double checked the bedding, etc. Then I would hit the range and bring them targets with beautiful cloverleafs from shelf ammo to show them there was nothing wrong with their rifles, scope mounts, scopes, or loads. The same guys also laughed at my puny 6mm Remington and 270 Winchester, but were always amazed how I filled my tags every year, most of them one shot kills.

I praise skill over kit any day. That said, I too own a few magnums, but can honestly say I shoot them very well and the recoil does not bother me. But, my favourite cartridges are still the slow, boring, and ancient, such as 30-06, 270Win, 35Whelen, 260Rem, 7-08, 308Win, 358Win, and 30-30.
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interesting....and the 30-06 being caliber that has brought down more big game in North America in the last 100 years then any other round.
 
ghostguy6 said:
I think the biggest factor in "Magnumitis" is the clerks at the gun shops telling every new hunter they need the biggest caliber possible. When I bought my first hunting rifle I remember the clerk telling me a .308 was no good for deer and I would need a .375 or larger, for moose he recommended a .416 but at ranges no more than 300 yards. With advice like that its no wonder new shooters develop a flinch. A few shots at the range to get sighted in and they would never pull the trigger again until an animal was in their cross hairs. I consider a good hunter to be someone who takes the time to practice his/her skills in order to make clean ethical shot. This includes lots of time on the range, something new shooters with large cartridges rarely do from what I have seen. Smaller cartridges allow for more time on the range learning your rifles capabilities. Even the cost of the ammo becomes a factor when putting rounds down range.

Sure there are plenty of people out there who understand the ballistics of magnum cartridges and can handle them fine, but realistically how many times do you truly, absolutely need a magnum? Around here most shots at big game are taken under 300 yards. The smaller cartridges are perfectly capable of ethical kills at those ranges. If you were able to compile a list of all the big game kills in North America I'm betting the puny .270, 30/06, 30/30, .303 and .308 are at the top of the list
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416 for moose...now thats funny! I can remember, when my Father would pop them moose with 30-06. Sounds like the sales guy would try sell a person a LAV-25 with a 25mm Cannon for Buffalo.
 
After reading through some of this thread I'm trying to rememberthe last 'Magnumz R Awesome! Regular cartridges are for weenies and losers' CGN thread and I honestly can't remember when I read one.

In other news, as a long standing 30-30/303/30-06 guy I finally bought my first gen-u-wine belted Magnum... a m700 sps in 7mm Rem Mag. And here is the shocking thing.... it is actually more comfortable to shoot than my old Tikka 30-06 even though it's a pound lighter and has the dreaded belt of shame on its case... Wow who knew?
 
I remember this jackass behind the counter at Phoenix in Edmonton telling guys they needed, at minimum a 300RUM to knock down a moose. Same retard went on at length on how useless the 223 was for coyotes. He went further to tell me all about how military rifles should all be upgraded to magnum cartridges. When I asked him how many gunfights he had been in, he went on at length about problems with the C7 gas system. Just plain stupid and no experience in anything, but he sold guns to the public and convinced people they needed a magnum cartridge.
 
Coolhand_Luke said:
After reading through some of this thread I'm trying to rememberthe last 'Magnumz R Awesome! Regular cartridges are for weenies and losers' CGN thread and I honestly can't remember when I read one.

In other news, as a long standing 30-30/303/30-06 guy I finally bought my first gen-u-wine belted Magnum... a m700 sps in 7mm Rem Mag. And here is the shocking thing.... it is actually more comfortable to shoot than my old Tikka 30-06 even though it's a pound lighter and has the dreaded belt of shame on its case... Wow who knew?
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What/why such a difference? Engineering? Design?
 
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