Marihuana at Hunting Camp.

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Interesting, no definition in Section 30 of the Wildlife Act in Alberta for example on impairment level [as in Section 253(1) of the Criminal Code, Operation while impaired]. The individual could still be impaired the next morning when setting out but depends on how long the effects last for that individual.

How Long Do Marijuana Effects Last?
Effects of smoking marijuana are noticeable within minutes after the first toke, and usually reach peak levels after 30 minutes. Most physical and psychological effects of marijuana will return to normal within 5 hours after administration, with exceptional strains or high potency THC effects reported to last for 24 hours.

http://drug.addictionblog.org/how-long-does-marijuana-last/


Alberta Wildlife Act

Alcohol and drugs

30 A person shall not hunt wildlife while the person’s ability to
hunt is impaired by alcohol or a drug.

http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/W10.pdf

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-253.html
 
Slamfire said:
Interesting, no definition in Section 30 of the Wildlife Act in Alberta for example on impairment level [as in Section 253(1) of the Criminal Code, Operation while impaired]. The individual could still be impaired the next morning when setting out but depends on how long the effects last for that individual.

How Long Do Marijuana Effects Last?
Effects of smoking marijuana are noticeable within minutes after the first toke, and usually reach peak levels after 30 minutes. Most physical and psychological effects of marijuana will return to normal within 5 hours after administration, with exceptional strains or high potency THC effects reported to last for 24 hours.

http://drug.addictionblog.org/how-long-does-marijuana-last/


Alberta Wildlife Act

Alcohol and drugs

30 A person shall not hunt wildlife while the person’s ability to
hunt is impaired by alcohol or a drug.

http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/W10.pdf

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-253.html
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Wow, where can I get some of the 24hr s**t! How long do the effects of alcohol last if you include the hangover and cloudy head the next day?

What really makes me laugh is the posters that complained about the secondhand smoke, do they not have campfires at their camps? Way more smoke filled with toxins than a joint, unless it's a Cheech and Chonger:)
 
Lol!! It is interesting the different views and concerns everyone has. At the end of the day if it is an Adult camp and as long as there is not some old standing agreed to terms of the camp that if not abided by your out. Should be a total non issue. It is 2018 the world is changing and and so are our Social acceptance. Let's face it weed never hurt anyone it's up to you weather it impacts your judgement. Soon you can buy beer and joint and pay your ridiculous taxes on it. I know a bunch of weed heads that make my wage look like chump change. The closet doors are opening. Time for acceptance!

Just my 2 cents. Good read!!
 
Pilots get safety reports from time to time. The idea is to learn by the experience of others (like the Mayday TV program).

One set of reports was commissioned by the US Navy. Their pilots fly onto aircraft carriers - at night. Probably the most difficult flying there is. They were having some crashes and commissioned reports on alcohol and pot from the University of Chicago. I wish I had kept copies.

They tested in full feature simulators.

Booze

Pilots flew a mission, sober. Made 10 small mistakes on average.

Pilots flew drunk. Made 75 mistakes. Some very serious ones (forgot to put gear down).

Pilots flew the next day. Blood alcohol level zero. Made 65 mistakes.

Conclusion: 24 hours, "throttle to bottle" is not long enough.


Pot

Test was similar to booze, except it took a month for a pilot to return to his sober performance. Pot is fat soluble (alcohol is water soluble) so it takes longer to metabolise.

My conclusion: Booze is ok in moderation at the hunt camp, but no one should get drunk because it will degrade performance the next day.

Pot will degrade performance the next day.


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I have no issues with it as long as it's the end of the day and all firearms are proofed and out of reach. But that last part should be a rule in any camp regardless of drugs or alcohol.
Worse case scenario is make sure he goes out of the cabin to smoke if someone has a issue with it. No harm no foul. My biggest issue is having an alcoholic in camp. Grew up with a sloppy drunk of a father so I know how bad the situation can get.
 
CHIA said:
Sounds more like a child's bible camp than a hunting camp.
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Hahahhahaha. Hunting camp is a place to relax and have fun. Heck last year we got so drunk we missed opening day... Hahahhahaha I think I woke up around 4pm hung over and still half in the bag.

You know who didnt miss opening day in our group? The 2 guys that dont drink but smoked reefer.

Weird how some of the snowflakes here think drinking is ok but smoking isnt...lol
 
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I'm more inclined to observe people's judgement and behavior during hunting hours, then their sobriety.

Some sober people are a hazard and others you'd never know they were Chronic users if you didn't know.
It's sad to say but a chronic drinker might be a smoother hunter after a beer in the morning. Not someone I'd choose to hang around or hunt with but some people get the shakes if they don't maintain the alcohol level in their blood.
 
the spank said:
I wonder how many would be denied a PAL/RPAL if mandatory drug & alcohol testing were part of the approval process? Would be interesting to see the results. Seems like quite a few on this board wouldn’t make the cut?!
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No doubt, if everyone had to have a few beers and a toke before they took the exam the results would be interesting.

:)

If the Gods didn't want people to drink beer....... they wouldn't have given the Sumerian's the recipe.
It's possible the Gods were using beer to help keep the workers inline and medicated.

The only thing I can really say observing intoxicated people over my life, is some people can handle it better then others and everyone is different.
The broad brush approach is easy but as usual not precise.
 
All personal opinions aside about pot, I figure the person/people who have paid for and organized the camp get to set the rules, based on whatever criteria they wish. Others can play by the rules or organize their own thing.
 
different opinion ... i do not go hunting with people drinking. i was raised that way about not mixing alcohol and firearms (unless they are locked). so as that substance is a drug like alcohol it will be the same for me but that is just me.
 
Rule #1 My camp my rules.
If I decide that we shouldn't have blue tea towels at the camp then you need to respect that and not bring any blue tea towels
Rule #2 Just because its legal doesn't make it OK. It's legal to take a dump in somebody elses sleeping bag, but that doesn't make it OK, its legal to not help out with any of the camp chores or cooking/cleaning duties, but that doesn't make it OK.
It is completely up to the ownership of the camp to decide what is OK and what is not OK and the fact that it is legal is not relevant to the discussion. Assuming you don't allow anything illegal of course.
My brother likes a toke every now and then and he is always welcome at the camp, his weed is not, regardless of its legal status. He's okay with that because he understands rule #1.
Bottom line is you get to decide for yourself (or your buddies do in this case) whether they are okay with it or not and if not being okay with it makes you a bunch of hypocrites then see rule #1. And the fact that I just don't like being around the stuff is all the reason I really need and I really don't need to justify it to anybody that asks "why". I just don't want it in my camp.
 
canucklehead said:
In hunting/camp situation, it's no different than alcohol. You wouldn't go hunting drunk, nor would you do it stoned...
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My thoughts exactly. When the hunt is on, everyone better be in full control when rifles and/or knives are being used. In the evening, it's all good, in moderation of course if the hunt resumes the next morning... I would not like to be with hunters that are constantly under the influence, mornings, afternoons and evenings. Not my type and life is too short in my book to deal with people having consumption issues, pot or alcohol...
 
Most import thing is BE SOBER WHEN YOU HUNT. Ie carrying your rifle or pointy objects.

My hunt camp is surrounded by Fly-In marijuana fields. The helicopters come and go every half hour twice a year in July and late September. Of course they are radar undetectable regular helicopters.
 
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daveyn said:
Rule #1 My camp my rules.
If I decide that we shouldn't have blue tea towels at the camp then you need to respect that and not bring any blue tea towels
Rule #2 Just because its legal doesn't make it OK. It's legal to take a dump in somebody elses sleeping bag, but that doesn't make it OK, its legal to not help out with any of the camp chores or cooking/cleaning duties, but that doesn't make it OK.
It is completely up to the ownership of the camp to decide what is OK and what is not OK and the fact that it is legal is not relevant to the discussion. Assuming you don't allow anything illegal of course.
My brother likes a toke every now and then and he is always welcome at the camp, his weed is not, regardless of its legal status. He's okay with that because he understands rule #1.
Bottom line is you get to decide for yourself (or your buddies do in this case) whether they are okay with it or not and if not being okay with it makes you a bunch of hypocrites then see rule #1. And the fact that I just don't like being around the stuff is all the reason I really need and I really don't need to justify it to anybody that asks "why". I just don't want it in my camp.
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Bottom line "it's not a democracy".
Interestingly though my experience has always been the people most against the herb are the ones who most abuse the drink.
 
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Interesting that you would associate youth with being more readily acceptable of having MJ around. Like its a new invention from BC that the older guys don't nor will ever understand. Might be an interesting excercise for you to seek out some of the guys on this site who grew up in the 60's and 70's to get some perspective on the soft drug culture in the days of Jefferson Airplane, Steppenwolf and Led Zeppelin. Throw in a reference to Frank Zappa and watch the mist of nostalgia roll in.
 
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