Mercury recoil suppressor
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No. None of our tubes leaked. One of my friends smoked a high end brand that came in aluminum tubes, with internally threaded aluminum caps.
We sealed the threads with Lok Tite.
Mercury can be absorbed through your skin, so don't touch it without wearing non permeable gloves. The gas is deadly as well, but works much more quickly.
When the firearm recoils, the mercury slams up against the front of the tube, reducing recoil. If it's already there, it just adds as extra weight on the rifle and reduces recoil like any other weight added to the stock.
That is why I called it a bit gimicky. There is no way to actually measure any recoil reduction. It's a 'felt' thing. There used to be a sprung weight that claimed it did the same thing. If it 'feels' like it helps, it helps in most minds... but is it mostly the added weight or the method?
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Doesn't MDT have a sling set up that measures the recoil of the rifle slung in it.
Would be an interesting test anyways to see if there actually was a difference.
I think XLR offers one for their chassis, just don't remember what it was inside them. They are in fact mercury. They also offer a weight kit.
https://xlrindustries.com/products/mercury-recoil-reducer?variant=9809890869284
Would be an interesting test anyways to see if there actually was a difference.
I think XLR offers one for their chassis, just don't remember what it was inside them. They are in fact mercury. They also offer a weight kit.
https://xlrindustries.com/products/mercury-recoil-reducer?variant=9809890869284
While math and physics can prove the device does work to some degree simply by the fact it takes more energy to move more mass, energy transferred to the stabilizing surface (your shoulder) is reduced.
I question how the mercury counterweight works, the concept the manufacturer appears to be marketing is the same as a dead blow hammer. However, in the hammer's application you provide the counterweight with kinetic energy (by swinging it) - the mercury in the reducer has no additional kinetic energy. The mercury remains (relatively) static in the tube until the tube/rifle moves back far enough for the front of the tube to contact the mercury and begin expending energy to move it (the mercury) by the time that happens, the rifle has moved and the recoil impulse is already felt.
I had one of these gizmos, which I believe was sold way back when for use in shotguns. I played with it in a couple rifles, and specifically remember reading to mount it parallel to the bottom line of the stock, so that's exactly what I did.
As stated above, it was supposed to spread the recoil impact out over a longer interval, making it feel less punishing; a push rather than a punch. I convinced myself that it seemed to be working, but I am also convinced that a quality recoil pad is better.
And if you are the least bit OCD...lemme tell ya, I found the feel and sound of the liquid sloshing around in the stock while carrying and handling it unbearable. I took it out after a while, stuck it in a drawer, let it "age" a few years or decades, and then sold it on the EE.
As stated above, it was supposed to spread the recoil impact out over a longer interval, making it feel less punishing; a push rather than a punch. I convinced myself that it seemed to be working, but I am also convinced that a quality recoil pad is better.
And if you are the least bit OCD...lemme tell ya, I found the feel and sound of the liquid sloshing around in the stock while carrying and handling it unbearable. I took it out after a while, stuck it in a drawer, let it "age" a few years or decades, and then sold it on the EE.
I know muzzle brakes are most likely more effective, but they are really noisy and had 1.5 to 2” to the overall length of the rifle, both things I don’t care for!
I know a couple friends that had them in rifles and they say the difference was quite noticeable.
So if I have a good recoil pad and a mercury tube, both combine it should even be better right?!?! Like if you add a muzzle break on top of those two even better… I would think that one doesn’t cancel the other.I had one of these gizmos, which I believe was sold way back when for use in shotguns. I played with it in a couple rifles, and specifically remember reading to mount it parallel to the bottom line of the stock, so that's exactly what I did.
As stated above, it was supposed to spread the recoil impact out over a longer interval, making it feel less punishing; a push rather than a punch. I convinced myself that it seemed to be working, but I am also convinced that a quality recoil pad is better.
And if you are the least bit OCD...lemme tell ya, I found the feel and sound of the liquid sloshing around in the stock while carrying and handling it unbearable. I took it out after a while, stuck it in a drawer, let it "age" a few years or decades, and then sold it on the EE.
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Can we admit that you're being just a tad obtuse with that statement...
If our buddy Dave is lost in the bush, and we're both facing north, standing side by side, yelling to him at the top of our lungs, we create a certain amount of decibels. Now, if I turn and face your ear, and keep yelling, I'd bet my yelling would seem louder (to you), because more of the noise is reaching your ear.
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Muzzle brakes can increase the sound pressure up to 10x depending on the brake and where it's measured
https://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/08/07/muzzle-brakes-sound-test/
Then there's the concussion... There is a reason why everyone who CAN uses a CAN.
(I sure wish we could)
I have used and installed brakes since the late 60's. .. And a common complaint is 'they are noisy'. Some people think brakes increase noise but they do not actually increase the decibels, they redirect the noise.
So as a shooter, unless the muzzle is close to something that will reflect the noise back at the shooter, they are just fine. To anyone off to the side of the shooter it will be annoying.
It agree it would be so nice if we could use suppressors.
So as a shooter, unless the muzzle is close to something that will reflect the noise back at the shooter, they are just fine. To anyone off to the side of the shooter it will be annoying.
It agree it would be so nice if we could use suppressors.
There isn’t only the noise factor( and because they change the direction of the noise they “are” noisy!
There is also the “commotion” and the fact that it adds length to the overall length… oh and they are fruckin ugly on a classic rifle with banded front sight!
Anyway I know they are more effective but they’re ain’t for me!
There is also the “commotion” and the fact that it adds length to the overall length… oh and they are fruckin ugly on a classic rifle with banded front sight!
Anyway I know they are more effective but they’re ain’t for me!
I don't want to be negative here but just the thought of having liguid mercury in my guns makes me cringe.
I've worked with this #### and will stay away from it as far as I can. I simply hate this stuff.
This whole system can be done using a tube with a spring at both ends (or mini hydrailic tubes) and a solid weight in between them. There's no slouching or noise coming from it and it can be fine tuned with different spring/solid weight options...
I've worked with this #### and will stay away from it as far as I can. I simply hate this stuff.
This whole system can be done using a tube with a spring at both ends (or mini hydrailic tubes) and a solid weight in between them. There's no slouching or noise coming from it and it can be fine tuned with different spring/solid weight options...
^^^ Add a liquid to surround that weight and the motion is dampened and would also reduce rebound
years ago I was told thats how the mercury dampeners worked, a spring loaded mass, but never CSI'ed the info
never heard of them 'sloshing' but that says the construction is pretty basic...
and whats with having to mount them parallel to a rifle bore or stock, especially a shotgun when the gun is almost never horizontal when fired?? wtf, over.
years ago I was told thats how the mercury dampeners worked, a spring loaded mass, but never CSI'ed the info
never heard of them 'sloshing' but that says the construction is pretty basic...
and whats with having to mount them parallel to a rifle bore or stock, especially a shotgun when the gun is almost never horizontal when fired?? wtf, over.
