Merits of 7mm Rem Mag Vs 338 Win Mag for long range Elk/Moose/Bear cartridge?

dan belisle said:
And this is why pbr in hunting is a useful tool. - dan
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There is nothing more precise for outrunning gravity, than turning a dial. This way, an individual can set the "pbr" where ever they want it.
In the example my good friend Chuck posted, happiness is only 1.5 MOA away from a 100 yard zero. If a feller can read, and count to 6, he's sitting in some tall grass indeed.
Change of scenery, means change of "pbr".
Lots of ways to get stuff done...
Seems to be a lot of reluctance to turn a dial... that has to get turned anyway.
If you're not shooting past 300 yards... then it doesn't really matter. Enjoy the "pbr"!

R.
 
Lol, love this logic. The fack around and find out logic. Often found out on animal of a lifetime and promptly shaking Murphy’s hand right after.

Let’s see, so there’s only a few percent difference between 2400-3200 fps. There’s a certain size kill zone for most critters we head afield with tags for, and you’re going to ignore that for the sake of some perceived precision that’s way outside the needs for task at hand (past point of diminishing returns) because it’s easier to check zero at, and count from, 100? Got it. Some like easier math than others.

And while we’re ignoring the obvious that the animals are not static targets where any method or piece of gear will work combined with their likelihood of of busting you within that pbr range which also coincides with where 99% of game is taken. Set up for task at hand, everything else is fack around and find out territory.

Your PRS is showing. :)
 
Rman said:
There is nothing more precise for outrunning gravity, than turning a dial. This way, an individual can set the "pbr" where ever they want it.
In the example my good friend Chuck posted, happiness is only 1.5 MOA away from a 100 yard zero. If a feller can read, and count to 6, he's sitting in some tall grass indeed.
Change of scenery, means change of "pbr".
Lots of ways to get stuff done...
Seems to be a lot of reluctance to turn a dial... that has to get turned anyway.
If you're not shooting past 300 yards... then it doesn't really matter. Enjoy the "pbr"!

R.
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If you have the time to dial. - dan
 
You guys ever try the old "figure out what distance the part of the duplex gets thick at corresponds to" trick? Gets you at least one known holdover (depending on how many powers you wanna use it for).
 
blakeyboy said:
Lol, love this logic. The fack around and find out logic. Often found out on animal of a lifetime and promptly shaking Murphy’s hand right after.

Let’s see, so there’s only a few percent difference between 2400-3200 fps. There’s a certain size kill zone for most critters we head afield with tags for, and you’re going to ignore that for the sake of some perceived precision that’s way outside the needs for task at hand (past point of diminishing returns) because it’s easier to check zero at, and count from, 100? Got it. Some like easier math than others.

And while we’re ignoring the obvious that the animals are not static targets where any method or piece of gear will work combined with their likelihood of of busting you within that pbr range which also coincides with where 99% of game is taken. Set up for task at hand, everything else is fack around and find out territory.

Your PRS is showing. :)
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Not sure what you missed... but it looks like plenty. Put the zero wherever you want? Change it as often as you like, depending on terrain and circumstances. It doesn't get much more task at hand then that.

R.
 
emerson said:
My experience is that most shooters/hunters with long range experience and comfort with their gear will use holdovers in an FFP reticle. For centerfire applications the values are quite small and easy to do with a solid range to work with.
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Depending on the situation... this is a fairly accurate statement, to the point of a certain distance. Past that distance, most, if not all will either dial, or pass on the shot. The hold over only works at a specific distance, or at closer range, an acceptable margin of distance. The dial works for any distance, with much much smaller margins.

R.
 
blakeyboy said:
Mpbrz buys more time, always has, always will.
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No... you do PBR because you're in a hurry, remember?
You keep adding letters? Alphabet shooting now? Have another Bud Light. Mpbrz+2"??
The wise, will just keep putting the zero where it needs to be, to suit the situation the best.

R.
 
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Rman said:
Depending on the situation... this is a fairly accurate statement, to the point of a certain distance. Past that distance, most, if not all will either dial, or pass on the shot. The hold over only works at a specific distance, or at closer range, an acceptable margin of distance. The dial works for any distance, with much much smaller margins.

R.
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I hold routinely use reticle hold overs on 1.5 MOA targets up to 7 mils. I use FFP scopes with precise reticles. Not guessing.
 
Joel said:
You guys ever try the old "figure out what distance the part of the duplex gets thick at corresponds to" trick? Gets you at least one known holdover (depending on how many powers you wanna use it for).
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yes, it really depends on the scope in question, so you need to verify your distances at the range against known distances. - dan
 
emerson said:
My experience is that most shooters/hunters with long range experience and comfort with their gear will use holdovers in an FFP reticle. For centerfire applications the values are quite small and easy to do with a solid range to work with.
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Yes, and reticles with multi horizontal stadia work well too. As long as you know where they are set and what the gap between the stadia tells you. - dan
 
dan belisle said:
Why? Mark a line on your target, and zero your rifle so that your group is centered on that point. I wouldnt choose 1 inch high, but that's just me. - dan
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Would have to be an absolute laser to make 1 inch high at 100 meaningful yeah lol.


On the duplex, I'm going to be using a Trijicon 3-9x40 Accupoint with duplex, so hoping that trick coincides to a useful range on 9x when it comes to verification. If not, there's always other powers lol.
 
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