Moose hunters threatened in Cape Breton Highlands

grabbers said:
I have allot of years of rugby behind me. Played all across Canada; and the sides I have played against from the Cape were always the most violent matches i have been part of. Cappers are good folks but they have no issue visiting violence on those they see as deserving.

Having said that, setting up a sting or ambush on these folks wouldn't be too hard. Def not out of the capabilities of the LEOs in the area. Its the will power they lack.
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This outfiter group is acting like terrorist, would be nothing like a team of jtf2 drest as hunters with concealed pistol and rifles in backpacks to go and tackle the problem!

As the news would go around the locals that the thugs harassing outfitters have ben arrested and atv's burned to the ground(legally) buy Canada's elite anti terrorist force local would think twice!
 
rally guy said:
This outfiter group is acting like terrorist, would be nothing like a team of jtf2 drest as hunters with concealed pistol and rifles in backpacks to go and tackle the problem!

As the news would go around the locals that the thugs harassing outfitters have ben arrested and atv's burned to the ground(legally) buy Canada's elite anti terrorist force local would think twice!
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A problem for what maybe 12 tough guy hunters that were going to show them how a henry works maybe :) Hunters that are too cheap to hire a guide or support the fight the outfitters are having with the government
Lets see zone 5 is not for the average hunter, no atv etc allowed
Of the tags issued for zone 5 90% hire a guide and have a great hunt with zero issues
I am over 33 years putting in for a tag and if I get one before I die this dude will be using a guide for sure


In july 2018 this made the news so everyone knew what they could be facing

A group of hunting outfitters in Cape Breton say they will set up pickets at two entrances to a protected area north of the Cape Breton Highlands National Park during moose season this autumn.

The area is called the Polletts Cove-Aspy Fault Wilderness Area, also known as Zone 5.

It features rugged terrain that outfitters say is best hunted with expert guides. It is open to non-motorized hunting only.

The outfitters intend to protest what they say is the unfulfilled promise of the provincial Department of Natural Resources to help them transition from guided hunts using ATVS to other means of transportation, such as horses.

Hector Hines, president of the Polletts Cove Moose Hunting Association, says his group has been waiting 10 years for the province to meet to its commitment.

"A lot of us have invested heavily into the non-motorized hunt, believing what they had to say back in 2008," Hines said.

"The government is just dragging their feet ... and we just feel that the government is not doing what they promised, not making the hunt viable for us."

Hines said outfitters are losing money every year while the government continues to ask for more time to reach a solution.

Moose hunters in Nova Scotia win their licenses in a random draw. Hines's group thinks assigning tags to some outfitters instead would provide their businesses with security.

This year's moose hunt in the Polletts Cove-Aspy Fault Wilderness Area will run for six days in October and three days in December.

"We're going to be setting up protest picket lines," said Hines, "and we're hoping that the people of Nova Scotia that get picked in the lottery will understand our situation and respect our picket lines.


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I have had the utmost honor to have been on 2 seperate hunts with these fine outstanding outfitters. And it is with great pleasure I will be with them again this year in the early week of October. Altough I was saddened that there was to be a protest, I would of gladly stood beside them with a unused tag in hand. And supported these fine people to the fullest. These men and women have spent countless hours preparing areas to take hunters. To witness all the work they put into the remote fully fitted camps and cabins. To having all your wood there for heated comfort, to the propane and dishes for cooking. The horses that are paddocked in the remote areas. That need feeding and watering several times a day. The extrodinary cost of the huge tents, and all the supplies needed so that we as a lucky tag draw winner, can just walk in. Enjoy all the comforts and not have a care what so ever. I tip my hat to you Hector, and the fine team of people that work with you in sync on each and every hunt. You provide a safe and condition hunt. With much sucucess, a lot of fun and I am honored to have come away twice with lasting memories with my family members. That was truely made a trip of a lifetime (x 2 ) by you and your team.
 
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3macs1 said:
There is some bad spots in Quebec also or was. We seen it first hand when we went ONCE ( never again ) moose hunting up there .One of the guys in our group spoke french which helped but it was very clear we were not welcome and yes we moved on
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For sure.

I used to work with some serious moose hunters out of Tadouessac. They told us they'd happily guide us for a fall hunt but that we'd be burned out by locals if we tried it on our own.
 
So after possibly being in a draw for 30 years without drawing a tag, then run into these hill billy jack offs trying to ruin your hunt? Ya, can't picture that working out well.

Meat Cove isn't the only place with hill billies lol.
 
silverfoxdj said:
They can be pretty protective of their areas especially if there are no jobs
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See the whole problem with this" protective of there area" thing is this: ex, me and my father have ben hunting in the same region in N-B since 2010. We are local to NB but not to that exact area, my dad owns a camp right were we hunt, it is our area. But we dont know everyone there are some local, some from othet region and some like us who owns a camp in the region. We have encountered all sort of people out there in this pay to enter forestry land. Some people blocking roads with there trucks, some driving while 2 guys are 20 feet high in a wood stand in the bed of the truck, some hunting 200-300 yard from our camp, some politely suggesting we turn around has he has hunters in blinds in a couple of place near by and he has ben feeding deers there for twenti some years(small time outfiter on a pay to acces forestry land trying to appropriate a corner of forest).

Alot pf them clame the area for them but the reality of the thing is even if you feed the area for a million year, it is a forestry land own by a compagny that sells permission to hunt on it. I don't own the place neather does anybody hunting there. It is first come first serve, if you got a spot better be the first there. If someone is already there well tuff luck you dont own the place. If i come and I see you put up a stand at the end of the road then Il just turn around. If you put a stand(has some do) on a turn in or in the middle of the logging road kilometers from the end of the road we might just drive past you! You dont own the road, have no clam to it and don't own it!

There is nothing that makes my blood boil more then someone parking there truck sideways to block entry to a logging road so he can have os one little spot in a tree stand, that is asking for trouble!

This week we arrive at the entry to a old logging road about 10 minutes after the start time of hunting. There was a truck park right in the middle of the road with a hunter in it. With all the forks in the road it must have ben around 5 km of roads. What did we do? We drove around the guy!
 
smokin'stoegie said:
I tend to agree with that comment and it would be nice to think one day they would, but scumbags like that tend to pick and choose their victims.
POS would never bite off more than they could chew.
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No, they won’t bite off more than they can chew, but tough guys always meet someone tougher. It’s inevitable.

The day will come that they threaten someone who doesn’t care, and he’ll shoot all 3 and head back to the truck and drive away. No witnesses, no worries, just 3 bodies beside 3 ATV’s in the middle of wilderness where there isn’t supposed to be ATV’s.

Would who ever finds them report to the RCMP? and actually expect them to care?
 
Funny how the intimidation and threats by the residents of Meat Cove makes the news but we never hear of the threats and intimimidation of hunters all over the rest of Cape Breton at the hands of...established residents shall we say...

It happened to me and every season i hear many stories but none of them is ever news worthy for some reason.
 
Evanguy said:
I know one of the guys. I went to high school with him and he lives by my parents now. Growing up with him, im guessing they were native(or some real life serious hillbillies) and armed. He wast a trouble maker but not many messed around with him.
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Do you one better. I'm related to some of the guides and a lot of Meat Cove. I know the propensity for violence and, banjo and hillbilly jokes aside, there's a real danger here.
 
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Jmac604 said:
Do you one better. I'm related to some of the guides and a lot of Meat Cove. I know the propensity for violence and, banjo and hillbilly jokes aside, there's a real danger here.
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Well then you also know they are some of the best, kindest people you would ever meet and are there for each other regardless of the need which is more than I can say for a lot of people today.
It is simple ask first and follow what you are told and no problem at all up there
Cheers
 
3macs1 said:
Well then you also know they are some of the best, kindest people you would ever meet and are there for each other regardless of the need which is more than I can say for a lot of people today.
It is simple ask first and follow what you are told and no problem at all up there
Cheers
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That's an interesting comment. So in a nut shell what you are saying is this:

Do what I tell you and you will be fine. Ask my permission or you are in trouble...
Cross me and it's ok for me to (pick 1): kill you, burn your truck, do whatever I want to you in retaliation.

I don't understand how you can call them the best, kindest people you would ever meet.

Because certainly they aren't

They take the law into their own hands. They have obviously threatened (and backed up those threats with action) the DNR people, the RCMP, and other hunters.
The LEO don't take action for fear of more retaliation.

Any yet these are nice people?
 
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