Mosin Original WW2 Dated Matching Sniper Rifles for SALE!

sledge said:
This is now making my head spin.
Wolverine has the real McCoy but import stamps. SFRC has the ones from North Sylva but not a lot of info on the condition or the authenticity of the "original" scopes. Now Tradex has them on their site and they say they are in refurbished V-good condition but they have a line "#'s on original scopes match sniper markings on receiver" that is a bit confusing. Is this a matching scope to receiver? Or is it sniper markings on receiver (CH mark, a scope serial number on left side of receiver)?
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Umm, I think the tradex ad copy is pretty clear. They are typical refurb mosins, but in this case they are original sniper rifles with matching original PU scopes and no import markings for half the price Wolverine is asking for the same rifles with a huge receiver billboard import stamp - all from the same european source.

In other words, Wolverine = fail.

Which is too bad as I have bought a lot of stuff from Wolverine and like doing business with them, but Tradex is also great to buy from and they get the big win on this offering.
 
Ahh, I thought you meant at the dealers.

I think I may post a WTT against a vet bringback BNZ42 later this week "in keeping with the trend". Decent rifle but with a sanded (matching) stock.
 
I did some searching on Gunboards.com and 7.62x54R.net. The talk there about these ATI PU snipers is that the rifles are from a known serial block that sniper rifles were taken from. So it seems that the rifles may very well be original sniper rifles. The PU scopes are thought to be original Soviet sniper scopes as are the mounts.

These ATI PU snipers are described as refurbished post war and this is where the waters get murky. Some of the posters suggested that the refurbishment is not Soviet but much later Russian (as in recent) for today's milsurp market. Which then begs the question: are the matching scopes force matched or were they matched as issued by the Soviets?

But its seems that these are thought to be original Soviet era sniper rifles and Soviet era PU scopes.
 
I understand some of the mounts are electropenciled....I think this must be a postwar thingy, correct?
 
My prayers to the MILSURP gods have been answered and it is now raining Mosin snipers out there. SFRC, Tradex, and now WeimerJack have what appears to be original snipers, though refurbished of course.
No rifle would survive 70yrs in Russia with a refurb. Probably a good thing in that they will be quite shootable.
Would love to have a Mosin nut take a good look over these and give us his take on them. But if these are even 9/10s what they may be then we are looking at the best milsurp deal to come our way since those unissued Irish contract Lee-Enfields in the early 90s.
Hopefully there are enough quantities out there that everyone that wants one will get them.
 
The word from the Mosin experts that have looked at the ATI PU snipers in the USA is that these are authentic sniper rifles and scopes. Post war refurb and excellent shooters with clear optics. The question was whether the refurb was Soviet or Russian.

Another question was about the matching scope and rifle serializations. In one example the owner of an ATI snipers says he can vaguely see where the old scope serial number was removed from the barrel shank with a new one applied - to match the scope. In other words a force match. Now if that was done by Ivan years ago is that legit, or if it was done by Olga a few months ago at the Tula plant (TOZ) is that a bubba?

What doesn't seem in question is that these are reputed WW2 original Soviet sniper rifles and Soviet scopes and mounts. Not a repro sniper made with a reproduction PU scope and mount on an original sniper rifle. Apparently AIM in the USA has a big shipment of snipers right now at a lower price than these ATIs and RGuns snipers (RGuns supposedly were post war East German Police issue).
 
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sounds like there no more original than an ex sniper put together with an original war time scope.Not that hard to stamp a few # on the rifle or the mount to make it match.Makes me wonder where they came from all of a sudden,i think someone is putting them together because there are a lot of people me inclued would love to have an all matching pu sniper .650 plus tax and ship is a lot off money but i remember the first one i got from Frontier Firearms i paid 799 plus tax and ship for a put together that advertised scope serialed to rifle and the rifle wasent even an ex sniper .So i would say the tradex rifles are definitely a lot better deal than that.Actually the ones frontier had are from the same batch that P&S has been advertiseing for quite some time
 
Oh man, I sold an original non-matching not long ago for over twice that amount. Not proud of it, but I never thought I would see this day.
 
gordonlbyrne said:
sounds like there no more original than an ex sniper put together with an original war time scope.Not that hard to stamp a few # on the rifle or the mount to make it match.Makes me wonder where they came from all of a sudden,i think someone is putting them together because there are a lot of people me inclued would love to have an all matching pu sniper .650 plus tax and ship is a lot off money but i remember the first one i got from Frontier Firearms i paid 799 plus tax and ship for a put together that advertised scope serialed to rifle and the rifle wasent even an ex sniper .So i would say the tradex rifles are definitely a lot better deal than that.Actually the ones frontier had are from the same batch that P&S has been advertiseing for quite some time
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This seemed to be what the posters were getting at on GB and 7.62x54R.net - if bubba ground off the original serial # on the barrel shank and restamped it to match the scope then we'd be all over bubba. But if Ivan did this back in the 40s,50s, 60s... we'd probably pay a premium.

What appears to be the value in the ATI PU sniper as posted by its U.S. owner was the excellent bore and rifling plus the clear optics. He said he was shooter so it originality was less of a concern.

I'd say check carefully to see if Tradex, Wolverine, P&S etc are the same rifles and decided for yourself if its worth it.
 
joe n said:
Oh man, I sold an original non-matching not long ago for over twice that amount. Not proud of it, but I never thought I would see this day.
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Joe - guys on GB were saying the same thing when talking about the latest AIM snipers in the U.S.A. which apparently are selling for a lot less than the ATI and RGuns PU snipers. They compared it to buying $1000 SKS's, etc many years ago and now seeing them priced in the $100s.
 
I see weimajack have already sold his sniper on the EE. I was lurking on thoses but cash is low theses days and others than my unissued polish M44, i dont have anything to help me fund a purchase. I know that if i ever sell the polish, i will not forgive me. Still i wonder what happen, no original sniper around and suddently they appear from who's know... and at good price, with matching scope. let,s see what happen.
Joce
 
im getting one from weimajack not going to wait and see,in my experiances if you sit on the fence too long they will be gone and all there is to say is i should have hade one when i hade the chance so as soon as i mail of the money order on monday she will be on the way
 
gordonlbyrne said:
im getting one from weimajack not going to wait and see,in my experiances if you sit on the fence too long they will be gone and all there is to say is i should have hade one when i hade the chance so as soon as i mail of the money order on monday she will be on the way
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I'm working a deal with Jacques, i wait online financement approval before confirming anything.... The occasion is too good to pass on:)
Joce
 
JP was looking at your rifles, why are the tula snipers 50 dollars more than the Izevesk ones are these rifles the real thing or put together with electropenciel numbers
 
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