My Deer Shot

drache said:
Like Davey said, gatehouse's thread in the Hunting Arms never had a single bad thing to say yet he shot his moose in the same location as this deer. The moment I posted it here, oh look, bad comments about it. Go figure....
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You may recall that in the moose thread that the first shot fired at the game was not a head/neck shot. The eventual neck shot was only taken after the first was botched and the moose was wounded.

I'm quite sure that if the first shot had been a neck shot taken at 350yds, the discussion on that thread would have been VERY different.

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SuperCub said:
You may recall that in the moose thread that the first shot fired at the game was not a head/neck shot. The eventual neck shot was only taken after the first was botched and the moose was wounded.

I'm quite sure that if the first shot had been a neck shot taken at 350yds, the discussion on that thread would have been VERY different.

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Gatehouse accidentally screwed up the first shot yes, but no one even mentioned it. His second shot hit it where the neck met the skull and the moose went down, no one tried to give him crap for the neck shot.

His entire thread was nothing but praise in the hunting arms forum.

I then post Gatehouse's video in the hunting section and immediately the first comment is bad. All Im saying is that it's ironic.

Here's someone (the OP) who posted a neck shot that killed it the very first time (no wounding) and at least half the comments are telling him he should never have shot it there.

Once again, Ironic.
 
The Gatehouse video is interesting when you see the path of the bullet as it ripples the air on it's way to the target, wild! What I don't like about it is the guide telling him not to shoot so he can get the moose in the viewfinder for what is essentially a promotional video. Couple seconds didn't make a difference here of course, but it might have. Splitting hairs, but it just turned me off a little.
 
Mauser GDog said:
The Gatehouse video is interesting when you see the path of the bullet as it ripples the air on it's way to the target, wild! What I don't like about it is the guide telling him not to shoot so he can get the moose in the viewfinder for what is essentially a promotional video. Couple seconds didn't make a difference here of course, but it might have. Splitting hairs, but it just turned me off a little.
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It wouldn't be much better to start hammering away at the moose while it was running, rather than waiting for it to stop and making a good clean killing shot.

This was not an easy second shot to make. The moose was behind those trees and I had to move my position to actually see any part of the moose other than the rear end. I didn't shoot until I was sure of a clean shot.

You may notice that the camera was on the moose for some time before the second shot was made, indicating that until that moment, I wasn't ready to shoot.

Moose was dead, lights out, 26 seconds after the first shot, which isn't so bad considering some moose stand there and soak up shot after shot until keeling over.;)
 
On the moose video, I assumed the first shot would be to the boiler room. It somehow goes way right and looks like it hits in the guts. Then the second shot, again I'll assume going for boiler, and the shot goes way right again but this time the moose is turned around so it hits in the neck/head area. The moose has his head held low, about level with the top of the chest/shoulders area. To me it looks like fortune smiled on Gatehouse and his rifle that somehow was shooting way right. But that's all speculation.

By the way, there is no judgment in my above comment, only wild-ass speculation based on video only.
 
drache said:
He's showing that no matter how good of a hunter you are, ACCIDENTS (ie bad shots) CAN happen. He kept his cool and placed his second shot where it counts and the animal went down.
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how many are presented with an opportunity for a second shot like this with an animal as LARGE as a moose standing still broadside for as long as it took the hunter to take the second shot????? :confused: Not many.

So a guy comes on here and posts pictures of a proud shot he made and gets ridiculed. Wow. Great bunch of supporters we have here amungst us huh? :rolleyes:

You know the story.... once upon a time a CGN avid experienced hunter called in the biggest Elk he has ever saw. Range at least 600 yards, walking in a zig zag motion... hunter took aim at the right eye and shot. Got it in the eyebrow and said " Im down on myself. I was an inch high ". Only on the internet. ;)
 
Eagleye said:
Here's another thumbs down on neck shots. Quite a good chance of miffing it and then the regrets come. Take high [heart-lung] percentage shots, they are always effective. Eagleye.
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totally agree, neck shot are un ethical. your not at war, respect your game. my 2 cents
 
Grouse Man said:
On the moose video, I assumed the first shot would be to the boiler room. It somehow goes way right and looks like it hits in the guts. Then the second shot, again I'll assume going for boiler, and the shot goes way right again but this time the moose is turned around so it hits in the neck/head area. The moose has his head held low, about level with the top of the chest/shoulders area. To me it looks like fortune smiled on Gatehouse and his rifle that somehow was shooting way right. But that's all speculation.

By the way, there is no judgment in my above comment, only wild-ass speculation based on video only.
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Watch the video again, as I explain that I held on the neck/had area for the second shot. :)

The second shot hit a within 2 inches of where I was aiming...The first shot? Who knows?

In this case, from where I was, I didn't have a clear shot at the boiler room, and the most ethical shot was the neck/head- which I don't normally think is a great idea. I did breifly considered shooting through the tree, but only for a second.:p
 
Mauser GDog said:
The Gatehouse video is interesting when you see the path of the bullet as it ripples the air on it's way to the target, wild! What I don't like about it is the guide telling him not to shoot so he can get the moose in the viewfinder for what is essentially a promotional video. Couple seconds didn't make a difference here of course, but it might have. Splitting hairs, but it just turned me off a little.
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That was pretty cool!
60 yards is damn closer then a lot of guys are taking deer from.
I would be a lot less worried about missing the vitals at that range.
 
lucky72 said:
totally agree, neck shot are un ethical. your not at war, respect your game. my 2 cents
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Yes, there is a slightly higher chance of a wound for a neck/head shot but the trade off is an instant (or near instant) kill on the animal with the least amount of suffering. Compared to a shot through a lung which the animal can still live for a very good amount of time. Now a heart shot is the best for aiming in that location.

Aiming for behind the front leg can create some very nasty wounds and misses can easily happen even to the best of hunters. Gatehouse's first shot on that moose for instance or my father (aimed at a moose and just as he pulled the trigger the moose darted forward). A gut shot is another one that can easily happen.

I have also had family members who have found dead animals with gunshot wounds to the front legs (which showed that the hunter either didn't track or couldn't track, or the animal moved to far too fast for the hunter to catch up). Personally I never have.

My grandfather had taught me to aim where the neck meets the skull. That pocket has the brain, the spine, major arteries, and major veins. If you trust your shooting and your rifle then making that shot within 100 yards can be made fairly easily.

Anything over 100 yards I wouldn't because at that distance wind can play too much of a factor.
 
Gatehouse said:
In this case, from where I was, I didn't have a clear shot at the boiler room, and the most ethical shot was the neck/head- which I don't normally think is a great idea.
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Thank-you ........ That was my point exactly when pointing out the difference between this thread and yours.


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Both animals were dead in a reasonable amount of time......WTF is the problem? Neck shots......Head shots......meat is in the freezer, the Hunters are happy......now back to our regularly scheduled flaming..........WTF is wrong with some of you?
 
7.62mm said:
Both animals were dead in a reasonable amount of time......WTF is the problem? Neck shots......Head shots......meat is in the freezer, the Hunters are happy......now back to our regularly scheduled flaming..........WTF is wrong with some of you?
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sorry, some of us respect our game.
 
Oh man, I see another special olypion has found his way
of knowing the right way to do everything has made his way into this one too to tell everyone how to do things.
Cant complain about one shot kills as long as it's quick and humain, who cares how gory it gets. The proof he was capable of making the shot is laying on the ground. No meat wasted. I bet the same whiners would be filling the forum with their right way to do things bs if he had gone for a heart/lung shot instead..... Oohh you wasted the edible heart, wasted both shoulders, shoula aimed a little higher, shoulda used a lesser calliber.... Man if everyone was as good at everything as a couple of you guys.....
 
lucky72 said:
sorry, some of us respect our game.
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Please tell me where this respect isn't given when an animal isn't killed INSTANTLY or NEAR INSTANTLY? I guess drowning in their own blood over time is more respectful (and humane)? I've shot deer behind the front leg many times (This is usually cause Im shooting at "longer" distances such as over 100 yards) and yes deer die either right away from a heart shot or over time from a lung shot and I've been forced before to track blood trials for long distances to find out where they laid down to die.
 
drache said:
His entire thread was nothing but praise in the hunting arms forum.

I then post Gatehouse's video in the hunting section and immediately the first comment is bad.
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Damn, I'm two for two. What do I win this time besides the ability to once again say I told you so! :D


Waiting for the "Should have used an Ultramag and that would never have happend" in 3-2-1.......


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You all are a bunch of clowns.

How about you select a proper cartridge with a proper bullet. Shoot at proper distances. And shoot deer in the proper area.

This long range, magnum, sniper, pink mist bulls**t should be put to an end. Some of you seem to have slept through ethics.
 
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