My new red baby :D
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The T97[NSR]s?
Are you suggesting Norinco take a page from Apple's book and update the rifle to what it likely should have been in the first place and charge a premium for essentially the same thing?
On a side note, it'd be neat to see these come in x39 and take AK mags. At least that way it could use the original rock-in design of the QCZ95.
Just got in from the range. Brief report: Chews up brass (regardless of the reg setting), 2MOA at 50, off a single sandbag, 5x, crappy rings, norc ammo, mag release is crap but can get used to it, handles nice, need to slam mags in to feed right. Pics to follow, all in all I'm a happy camper
Time to post up a more detailed range report. It was a very enjoyable trip and the crowd at the range was friendly and curious, so a few fellow-members got to try it out too. Because the scope was so far back, the lens cap was interfering with my hat, so I had to turn it backwards and look like a punkass. Will fix that when the new mount arrives. On a side-note, also got to shoot an AR (love it, will have to get one too, but can't justify it any time soon) and to fire some 300wm (forgot how much "lovin'" the Mauser action takes) and the recoil was surprisingly mild.
1) As I mentioned before, I was surprised at how beat up the brass got, both in the middle and the necks got crushed (the necks probably from hitting the port dividers). One guy will try his resizing die on some of the casings and we'll see what comes out next Wednesday, for you reloaders out there.
2) The trigger is mushy and with a long travel. I could probably fix the travel with my drill press if I had a few spare trigger tie rods to play with. With 4lbs of force, though, it didn't negatively affect my groups.
3) The LAR mags didn't drop free. That can most likely be fixed by a very light polish of the magwell or just continued use. Both the mags and the rifle were unused before last night. I noticed that if you don't push in the mag well, it could cause FTF's. One AR shooter was getting them CONSISTENTLY. At first I thought it was his Winchester(?) hp ammo so we tried it with my Norc stuff and he still had'em. Both cartriges fed fine when I shot the rifle.
4) It was grouping very well considering the shooter (still got LOTS to learn), the cheapo rings only bought for test-fit, the more CQB-oriented scope
and the factory ammo. As you can see, the scope is more CQB oriented, with reaching out being an afterthought - by no means a precision marksmanship instrument. The target was indoors, at 50yds. Typical 3-shot groups were 1 1/4" to 1"
Even though when I was doing 5-shot groups, 2-3 rounds would always make a VERY tight cluster.. Too bad my marksmanship is so poor that I don't wanna post my 3-shot clovers as shooter (me) errors were terrible on those targets and some hits were WAY off lol.
I noticed that because of the height difference between the barrel and the scope, you needed to make 3" elevation holds at 20yds on a rifle zeroed at 50yds. As you can see, somebody didn't listen when I warned them
This last target was just guys trying out my new baby at 20yds and dumping the LAR mags, so no precision marksmanship there
If you guys got any questions, ask away.
1) As I mentioned before, I was surprised at how beat up the brass got, both in the middle and the necks got crushed (the necks probably from hitting the port dividers). One guy will try his resizing die on some of the casings and we'll see what comes out next Wednesday, for you reloaders out there.
2) The trigger is mushy and with a long travel. I could probably fix the travel with my drill press if I had a few spare trigger tie rods to play with. With 4lbs of force, though, it didn't negatively affect my groups.
3) The LAR mags didn't drop free. That can most likely be fixed by a very light polish of the magwell or just continued use. Both the mags and the rifle were unused before last night. I noticed that if you don't push in the mag well, it could cause FTF's. One AR shooter was getting them CONSISTENTLY. At first I thought it was his Winchester(?) hp ammo so we tried it with my Norc stuff and he still had'em. Both cartriges fed fine when I shot the rifle.
4) It was grouping very well considering the shooter (still got LOTS to learn), the cheapo rings only bought for test-fit, the more CQB-oriented scope
and the factory ammo. As you can see, the scope is more CQB oriented, with reaching out being an afterthought - by no means a precision marksmanship instrument. The target was indoors, at 50yds. Typical 3-shot groups were 1 1/4" to 1"
Even though when I was doing 5-shot groups, 2-3 rounds would always make a VERY tight cluster.. Too bad my marksmanship is so poor that I don't wanna post my 3-shot clovers as shooter (me) errors were terrible on those targets and some hits were WAY off lol.
I noticed that because of the height difference between the barrel and the scope, you needed to make 3" elevation holds at 20yds on a rifle zeroed at 50yds. As you can see, somebody didn't listen when I warned them
This last target was just guys trying out my new baby at 20yds and dumping the LAR mags, so no precision marksmanship there
If you guys got any questions, ask away.
Lol I wish I were getting 2MOA offhand.. The handguard was on a sandbag, so semi-rested position. Definitely a blast. Can't wait to take her out again
This rifle isn't a replacement for a Tavor. Think of it as the mini14 of bullpup rifles. I'll be keeping mine iron sights and using the Tavor for optics. This is the Famas I couldn't buy thanks to our laws.
So can you put a bayonet on the T97?
