My rifle shoots 1/2" groups @100 yards all day! Really? Prove it.

2bad4u2 said:
Are you kidding? You've never read anyone claim, "My rifle shoots < .50 MOA (5-shot) groups all day long as long as I do my part."? This gets said here on an almost daily basis.
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Lol. I don't pay attention lol

It is however funny that military sniper qualities on hits vs group size

2bad4u2 think you on to something lol.

It's impossible to shoot every shot of a barrel life in .5 s.

Some days it's 1.25 others 1.0 some groups sure make it into .5s and fewer under.

A bench gun will do it however. Strings shot with HV 6ppc and 6br are shot in strings of 25. As mentioned in the .2s or 3s.
 
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Out of curiosity, does the man with a 50 caliber Steyr get a little more leeway with the group size? Literally, he would have to put bullet after bullet through the same hole.
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It sounds like you need to read up on how groups are measured.
 
I think that is why it needs to be on 1 single piece of paper or a actual score target. I am fortunate I have score targets so I can shoot all my groups on 1 target. On 1 piece of paper how do you BS 5-5 shot groups? Pretty tough from what I can tell.
 
cycbb486 said:
I think that is why it needs to be on 1 single piece of paper or a actual score target. I am fortunate I have score targets so I can shoot all my groups on 1 target. On 1 piece of paper how do you BS 5-5 shot groups? Pretty tough from what I can tell.
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the only way your gonna bs is if you shoot closer than 100 yards, but that's just bad form

i don't see the point in pretending, If i can't shoot .5 groups I would rather someone tell me what im doing wrong and improve my skills

some people whole life is just for show/bragging so they just continue the lie with everything they do
 
I guess this answers why so many people will not put up or shut up. No more honesty amongst people. Everyone has the tack driver. Trust me, the only true tack driver day in a day out is a full blown 6ppc out to 200.

Lets stop being skeptics and try and believe there are some honest people out in the world.
 
For a full blown 6PPC gun this is no contest.
Your standard factory varmint gun will be challenged.

I just installed my McLennan .223 Ackley barrel on my Rem 700 tonight in anticipation for the challenge. Will need to bed it into my McMillan varmint stock tomorrow.
Consider it a semi custom if you will, but I think it can do .5 MOA and the barrel has 5000 rds through it.
 
Johnny G1 said:
How the hell can a .308 bullet leave a .287 hole let alone a group of .287. Try shooting through some metal and you will see what we are talking about or buy some new caliper's.
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Laugh2 Take the man seriously and do some homework on this.
 
I will help you out. When measuring groups you measure from center of impact to center of impact. The caliber is not so much the issue. To measure a group you measure the extreme outside to outside distance, then subtract the bullet diameter of the caliber used from the total measurement. This gives you the exact center to center distance (group size), and removes the "optimisim" that usually gets interjected when people try to 'eye' the centers of the holes.

This is how you measure a group and how you an have a .287 inch group shot with a .308 bullet.
 
I think it's a good idea to run these things on the honour system.

cycbb486 said:
I think that is why it needs to be on 1 single piece of paper or a actual score target. I am fortunate I have score targets so I can shoot all my groups on 1 target. On 1 piece of paper how do you BS 5-5 shot groups? Pretty tough from what I can tell.
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Here's one way it can be gamed. Take a large strip of paper. Shoot a group in the middle. If it's smaller than 0.5", shoot another group to its right. If that's larger than 0.5", then shoot a group to the left of the first group, otherwise continue shooting groups to the right. Keep this up until you have five <0.5" groups in a row. Slice off the ends of the paper, leaving five groups on a single piece of paper, all less than 0.5". That is probably pretty clearly against the spirit of the thing (though this is @Underthegun's contest so I'd say it's up to him to rule "yay" or "nay" on any questions).

How about this way. Bring 200 rounds to the range. Put up a piece of paper. Start shooting groups. As soon as you fire one group larger than 0.5", take that target down and put up another one and re-start. Eventually you'll either run out of ammo, or have a single piece of paper on which you shot five consecutive five-shot groups all under 0.5". Does this "try, try again" approach pass the smell test, or not?
 
You posted this challenge a month too late for me. If I could have gotten out on Dec.21st when all the planets were aligned it would have been a piece of cake. Now maybe not so much, but I'll give it a try when the snow is gone. I'm usually guaranteed one flyer in every otherwise awesome group. I get too excited.
 
The idea of the challenge isn't to luckily shoot 5 groups in a row under .5". It is to "prove" or "show" that your gun is a true sub half inch gun. You are welcome to try as many times as you want. But each new attempt must be on a new sheet. If you shoot 3 groups under .5" and the 4th is over you must start over on a new page.
 
:dancingbanana::dancingbanana: I only make one hole when I shoot, I punch one hole and all the rest of the bullets just follow through, so if I posted five 5 shot groups it would just looks like five single shot groups .... :dancingbanana::dancingbanana:

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Very cool for those that can do it and prove it
 
c4pyro said:
I will help you out. When measuring groups you measure from center of impact to center of impact. The caliber is not so much the issue. To measure a group you measure the extreme outside to outside distance, then subtract the bullet diameter of the caliber used from the total measurement. This gives you the exact center to center distance (group size), and removes the "optimisim" that usually gets interjected when people try to 'eye' the centers of the holes.

This is how you measure a group and how you an have a .287 inch group shot with a .308 bullet.
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Thank you, I've been measuring wrong then... That IS embarassing. However, it is nice to learn that my groups of 1" with 222rem factory loads are only 3/4" groups. I wasn't expecting that from factory ammo: I am excited now to try my handloads that I know are better. Will certainly put all the blame on me for poor groups. :popCorn:

When does this challenge expire? I need to reload some more, and I've been spending lots of time making ready my 6.5X55, and still need to work a load for it.
 
Will give it a try, and you all can try my chalange if you like

Will jump in and give it a try knowing that many many fellows have guns that will do it including tuned factory rifles.
Try my target print a copy or just place three toonies on your copier, better make lots
Have done 100 & 200 keep shot inside polarbear not tried it as yet at 300 y
good luck to all
manitou


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During load developement at 100 yards today with the new duece............

oh....and lots of witnesses at the range to see it...........

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oh about the rifle.......
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winchester western brass
Benchmark powder
205M primers
sierra 52 grain match seated 10 thou of the lands
 
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