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Oh man, we missed a pretty sweet deal recently....forgot the dealer, but they had a couple of Bushmasters in 11.5' and 14.5in for $880 CAD...sold out the same day.
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Oh man, we missed a pretty sweet deal recently....forgot the dealer, but they had a couple of Bushmasters in 11.5' and 14.5in for $880 CAD...sold out the same day.
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It's true, I'm sure both brands have had failures, not saying that Norcs never break down (mine haven't, knock on wood), but if you want to compare breakdowns, how many breakdowns from Norc versus how many breakdowns from NEA? Then take into account how many Norcs are out there versus NEA. I don't think anyone has an actual statistic out there, but just based on the frequency of failure threads that I have read, I'd say the failure to rifles sold ratio is a lot higher in NEA than Norc.
You'd think that something Made in Canada would have better QC. I'd like to think that they have qualified gunsmiths, technicians and engineers that would be able to put out a better product considering they aren't making 28,752 yuan ($4,700 CAD) per year.
Anyway, after seeing the types of product failures first and second hand, I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable shooting one, let alone owning one.
It's not my place to comment on statistics based on what happens on internet forums.
I did not expect to ever buy an NEA due to their reputation, and was not disappointed when I found their reputation was deserved. But when it comes to a cheap beater rifle, having support on standby is better than being on my own.
I did not expect to ever buy an NEA due to their reputation, and was not disappointed when I found their reputation was deserved. But when it comes to a cheap beater rifle, having support on standby is better than being on my own.
The major issue the OP has at this point is that this NEA firearm is potentially unsafe and sending him a muzzle break replacement is not the right thing to do and ludicrous.
A person can get seriously hurt with an unsafe firearm and then what replacement part will NEA send?
A reputable company would take it upon themselves to take back this firearm, refund the OP and do the necessary followup in such a serious situation.
A person can get seriously hurt with an unsafe firearm and then what replacement part will NEA send?
A reputable company would take it upon themselves to take back this firearm, refund the OP and do the necessary followup in such a serious situation.
Best thing people can do is not buy NEA products until they get their #### together. If you buy their cheap junk they will just keep making cheap junk.
They just have to make a proper AR, with proper AR specs and materials, all the goddamn spec sheets are available....look how many small companies there are in the US turning out solid milspec type rifles. I expect better out of a canadian company then what NEA has been able to produce to date.
They just have to make a proper AR, with proper AR specs and materials, all the goddamn spec sheets are available....look how many small companies there are in the US turning out solid milspec type rifles. I expect better out of a canadian company then what NEA has been able to produce to date.
I'm still waiting for the "my nea blew up and I lost an eye" thread. Actually amazed it hasn't been posted yet.
I can't believe what people will buy just to save a few bucks rather then saving up a bit longer.....
I can't believe what people will buy just to save a few bucks rather then saving up a bit longer.....
Every Norinco I own (Jw15, NP30, SKS, CQ311) all run well. The NP30 and cq311 have more than 3000 rounds each on them. The JW15 only has about 500 rounds on it with only one failure to fire (there was no priming compound in the cartridge). the SKS is at 2800 rounds (two cases) with a few FTF and no FTE. The Norinco is a forged upper and lower. Further the CQA models are fully compatible with american made AR components. The NEA that this thread was started about won't even run with a geissele trigger, the finest trigger in the US. didn't you get burned by NEA "quality"?.
Yep....burned by NEA QC and Chinese lol.
I had one of the new CQA's....it was such a pile of #### I sold it without even putting a round through it. The fit and finish by AR standards was so low I had zero confidence in shooting it. Every other Chinese gun I had needed some kind of work done on it to function....with the exception of the NS522, they were OK out of the box for a $200 rifle. JW25A the bolt stopped closing during the function test....zero heat treatment on the cocking piece, still can't get the safety to work on it either. 1911's worked but were sloppy as hell and needed work to shoot half decent. Hell there is a thread every week in every forum titled " help my Nork doesn't work " Lol
I can't recommend NEA or Chinese guns. In both cases there are equivalent US/EU/SA/PH made guns for not much more $$ that really are made better with better fitting and higher quality parts and workmanship. Save the extra couple hundred, buy better. Hell if you shoot $4000 worth of ammo in a year, what's an extra $200-$300 spend on the gun really putting you out?
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There is a reason that most serious AR people don't bother posting much in the black and green rifle section anymore. This thread is a good example of why and it's a shame really.
When I asked the OP how NEA explained the burst fire problem, he said:
Anyone who knows ARs and is thinking clearly can read between the lines...NEA is trying to isolate the burst firing issue and the first thing ANY AR manufacturer is going to suggest is putting the trigger back to stock to see if the issue continues. Maybe the OP installed the aftermarket trigger incorrectly, maybe he got a bad trigger, maybe his Geissele came from some dude at a gunshow who did a little stoning work on it? Who knows? The point is, the manufacturer has no idea and the first logical step in determining what is wrong is to suggest it be put back to stock to see if the issue continues or not.
But instead of rational thought we get the predictable dogpile with people practically tripping over each other to get in on the fun. When people are so eager to jump on the band wagon and not use their heads we get the following:
When I asked the OP how NEA explained the burst fire problem, he said:
Anyone who knows ARs and is thinking clearly can read between the lines...NEA is trying to isolate the burst firing issue and the first thing ANY AR manufacturer is going to suggest is putting the trigger back to stock to see if the issue continues. Maybe the OP installed the aftermarket trigger incorrectly, maybe he got a bad trigger, maybe his Geissele came from some dude at a gunshow who did a little stoning work on it? Who knows? The point is, the manufacturer has no idea and the first logical step in determining what is wrong is to suggest it be put back to stock to see if the issue continues or not.
But instead of rational thought we get the predictable dogpile with people practically tripping over each other to get in on the fun. When people are so eager to jump on the band wagon and not use their heads we get the following:
NEA blaming Geissele QC....
Off topic but if the engine isn't completely broken in at the factory it IS broken in within the first 50km. Thats why an immediate oil change at that time is so important that most people neglect.
Back on topic... Dude I wouldnt risk running that gun any more honestly not worth it. They have shown they dont care with your replacement *part* and that is very telling...
Sure, and if that were the only problem I'd agree with you. However given the current state of the AR, the trigger pack should be the least of their concern. They should instead focus on melting it down before OP loses an eye.
That's all good and fine except soft fire control group parts, doubling/burst firing are all common/known issues with NEA15s. Same with prematurely self destructing bolts.
I know a guy who recently sent his NEA15 back to get rebuilt (I wont even get into the problems it had that he sent it back for). When he got it back he got 42 rounds through it and the bolt failed. So what happened to that problem being sorted out or that they were making their bolts in house?
I asked the question in another thread, and I'll ask it again:
Why can't NEA get their $hit together?
Can they not find competent employees who care? Does the owner not care? Are they at the mercy of suppliers who keep sending them sub par components? This is beyond 'first year teething issues' to the point of being depressingly comical. Same problems keep happening despite hearing the 'they've sorted out their QC issues' line.
It's great that every time one of these threads comes up that Ryan sells a few more NEAs (or so he says) but I don't really know what that says about the people buying them..... :/ Optimistic? or Naive?
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Runningfool
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I agree. I just get frustrated thinking of how, a month or a year from now, someone will say, "Hey, remember when NEA claimed that grenaded muzzle break was due to a $400 Giessele trigger?". It will happen, I assure you.
I feel bad for the OP and am frankly shocked that they didnt offer to take the whole rifle back and replace it. I don't know the whole story but from what I've read here, Deagle has every right to be pissed and I would be too.
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