NEA Issues *WARNING*

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Hmm.. I thought NEA didn't use shill accounts anymore? Well, since they got caught the last time and abandoned the forums that is.

Founded in 2008, hard to see that as "new"

Or is the continual problems that crop up to be considered "new" ?
 
redshooter said:
Perhaps you should let this thread die and cool it with the threats of litigation...in spite of the theater of deagel this thread has become your getting treated well by SFRC, at the same time slagging one of his product lines that by all accounts is trying to do the right thing. Before the rest of you fire both barrels, consider that everyone I've read about having a problem with NEA rifles has been taken care of. I challenge you to show me a company that didn't have some problems when starting. Are any of you actually stupid enough to think that a thread like this will make them suddenly do everything perfect? All we can ask is they work towards getting it together, preferably sooner, and other than this so called proof it looks like they are.

From the manual;

Sustained rate of fire for the NEA-15 Rifle is 12-15 rounds per minute. This is the actual rate of fire that a weapon can continue to deliver for an indefinite length of time without serious overheating. Sustained rate of fire should never be exceeded except under circumstances of extreme urgency.

Not 50...You can damage any rifle this way.

This NEA firearm carries a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser and covers all defects in material and workmanship. Any unauthorized, repair, misuse, abuse, modifications or alterations of this product is not covered by this warranty. This warranty does not include normal and expected wear of components, exterior finishes and appearance through use.

For clarity, 50 rounds a minute is clearly misusing the rifle according to the terms of the warranty. Instead of continuing to use this forum as a hammer, take a pill and let Ryan take care of it. The court of opinion isn't a court of law...if this went to litigation there would be a one looser and I'll give one guess who that would be.

As for the I didn't get my extras...I'd like to see the e-mail exchange as some guys get treated great and others talk of being ignored...about an EXTRA bolt or ADDITIONAL muzzle device, did it look something like this thread?
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I find most of what you write quite concerning!
Quoting the manual, youre stating that the maximum rate of fire of an NEA AR is 1 round / 5 seconds! Thats troubling, on that alone I would never buy an NEA product, maybe they should put that as a public disclosure as opposed to within the manual after the fact that you have purchased the product.
I would find it very troubling to be in IRAQ and be limited to one round per 5 seconds! Thats retarded. Either youre building an AR or youre building a toy.
His muzzle device exploded, his bolt is sheared, his forward assist exploded, NEA blamed the Geisele trigger, youre saying hes shooting too fast.
You seem to be saying it must be everything else but the manufacturer, while everyone here who has ever owned an AR is saying that it is the manufacturer!
 
redshooter said:
From the manual;

Sustained rate of fire for the NEA-15 Rifle is 12-15 rounds per minute. This is the actual rate of fire that a weapon can continue to deliver for an indefinite length of time without serious overheating. Sustained rate of fire should never be exceeded except under circumstances of extreme urgency.

Not 50...You can damage any rifle this way.
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For clarity, 50 rounds a minute is clearly misusing the rifle{...}
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Reading comprehension. The text you posted says right in the same sentence that 12-15rpm is the rate at which it can be fired "for an indefinite length of time". A 50rpm burst for 1 or 2 minutes is not "sustained fire".


Also as mentioned above, absolutely hilarious you think think waiting less than 5 seconds per shot is considered abuse.
 
deagle that Troy M7 kit is dead ###y. According to the terms of you CGN membership a full set of pictures must be supplied with an deatailed range report.
 
redshooter said:
Perhaps you should let this thread die and cool it with the threats of litigation...in spite of the theater of deagel this thread has become your getting treated well by SFRC, at the same time slagging one of his product lines that by all accounts is trying to do the right thing. Before the rest of you fire both barrels, consider that everyone I've read about having a problem with NEA rifles has been taken care of. I challenge you to show me a company that didn't have some problems when starting. Are any of you actually stupid enough to think that a thread like this will make them suddenly do everything perfect? All we can ask is they work towards getting it together, preferably sooner, and other than this so called proof it looks like they are.

From the manual;

Sustained rate of fire for the NEA-15 Rifle is 12-15 rounds per minute. This is the actual rate of fire that a weapon can continue to deliver for an indefinite length of time without serious overheating. Sustained rate of fire should never be exceeded except under circumstances of extreme urgency.

Not 50...You can damage any rifle this way.

This NEA firearm carries a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser and covers all defects in material and workmanship. Any unauthorized, repair, misuse, abuse, modifications or alterations of this product is not covered by this warranty. This warranty does not include normal and expected wear of components, exterior finishes and appearance through use.

For clarity, 50 rounds a minute is clearly misusing the rifle according to the terms of the warranty. Instead of continuing to use this forum as a hammer, take a pill and let Ryan take care of it. The court of opinion isn't a court of law...if this went to litigation there would be a one looser and I'll give one guess who that would be.

As for the I didn't get my extras...I'd like to see the e-mail exchange as some guys get treated great and others talk of being ignored...about an EXTRA bolt or ADDITIONAL muzzle device, did it look something like this thread?
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I sure am glad that I am not one of the "many" real life soldiers who apparently have this rifle. Thankfully, I don't have one and also my life doesn't depend on my rifle.
I was very enthusiastic about the NEA rifles when they were being developed. I'm not as impressed now. I have a friend who has an NEA and it sure looks cool. I just hope he doesn't shoot it too fast. Jeebus.
 
Some of you guys must be pretty dim...let the thread die...my whole point is if he keeps "educating" us about NEA problems they may get tired of it and start ignoring him. I invite you to revisit post #351, "I would have gone the legal way to get my hard earned money back". He already screwed himself as far as that went...my whole point.

Shill that's funny...since I'm a shill perhaps they'll give me a rifle for my trouble. HEAR THAT NEA! I'd really dig an NEA-15 DMR...

All you wannabes...how long before a real soldier would run out of ammo at 50 rounds per minute with the standard loadout?

How do you suppose any AR would stand up to 50 rounds per minute? How many minutes before it overheats? One, two, three, or four? I invite one of the gun plumbers to correct me but I'll bet after four minutes at 50 rpm you'll be wanting to have a glove on. I've seen a dumb ass blister his hand on a C7 handguard so I know they will heat up, and fast.

ANY rifle only has so many rounds in it. Some are better than others. Run it reasonably and you'll get max life out of it. Run it hot and things will fail in a shorter time span. 50 rpm in a 7.5" AR, a length known to have problems with many manufactures, if my reading skills haven't failed me, is asking for problems.

Beside the original serious QC problems, I'm beginning to wonder if many of the problems with NEA rifles is because clowns show up to the range with a 1/2 a case of Norinco 5.56 and go through it as fast as they can load their 10 LAR mags.

Regardless, my opinion about this thread is obvious.

Best thing to do is let the thread die...
 
Ive seen some real footage on youtube of soldiers running out of ammo in 20 minutes during an engagement. Thinking they usually carry 600 rounds in mags and another 500 rounds or more in their pack, thats 1100 rounds in 20 minutes, thats over 55 rounds a minute. And their colt rifles didnt explode. So voila.
 
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mikethebike said:
Ive seen some real footage on youtube of soldiers running out of ammo in 20 minutes during an engagement. Thinking they usually carry 600 rounds in mags and another 500 rounds or more in their pack, thats 1100 rounds in 20 minutes, thats over 55 rounds a minute. And their colt rifles didnt explode. So voila.
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An Afghanistan vet I talked to recently said their load was 300 rounds. We were talking about weight of his kit. Armour, ammo, 3 litres of water, helmet, NVG, etc. in 49°C heat. He also carried 80 rounds of 9mm. Didn't tell me how much was in mags or "loose".
 
What does firing fast have anything to do with NEA rifles? I've had magazines dumped through C8s and C7s multiple times before, holding the trigger down, only stopping to reload. Besides heating up nothing broke, sheared or blew off the rifles. This is a semi-automatic rifle being fired on ranges we're talking about here. The aforementioned breaking, shearing of blowing off of parts shouldn't happen. End of story.
 
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