NEA Issues *WARNING*

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We did many a "mag dump " when testing our the Ar15 bbls we make. Any one from trenton LTV or silverdale club. Will know.
One day we put 3700 rds in one 10.5 inch gun

It would still shoot 3inch at 100m.
We have 8500 rds in one bbl. And one gun has 23k in it, but its about dead. These guns we use to test products we make.
They are treated very badly.
I have a armalite that also has 18-19 k shot in it. , the bolt lug went at 16k and I'll still shooting it. Bolt still works.
 
nugunner said:
An Afghanistan vet I talked to recently said their load was 300 rounds. We were talking about weight of his kit. Armour, ammo, 3 litres of water, helmet, NVG, etc. in 49°C heat. He also carried 80 rounds of 9mm. Didn't tell me how much was in mags or "loose".
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80 rounds of 9mm? That is a lot of weight for minimal return.
 
I smell nea employee or a relative


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Actually this kind of problems is not only because of QC, but they have a serious problem in the overall manufacturing process.
From design, machining process, QC, FMEA. IMO it is so obvious they don't "know how".
They have so much of big talk but laughable quality and reliability.
Pretty much a Miracle that they are still in bussiness.
Anyway as always threads relating to NEA are very entertaining.
 
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deagle2008 said:
I smell nea employee or a relative
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I don't even know an employee's relative...at least I don't think I do...

My issue with this thread is that it's about you getting your money back...fair enough. What offends me though is as far as I can tell you were being taken care of. That wasn't good enough for you. You had to create this thread to whip up the anything but NEA crew. You used the forum as your anvil and the ABNEA support crew as your hammer.

You received a rifle with some flaws. No doubt about it. Also no doubt in my mind you've been running it hard. Run things hard,things break, end of story. The flash hider for example, probably not the best design for a PDW due to excessive muzzle blast. Both your vids show you pounding them down range...to be honest I enjoy that too. I stop at one or two mags though. Here's addressing another comment about what does firing fast have to do with it...you answered yourself, heat. How many mag dumps is too many? I don't know the answer, my area of expertise isn't metallurgy. I do know this, repeatedly pushing an engineered object to the edge of its operating range will cause it to fail prematurely. Pretty simple.

A mil-spec rifle isn't indestructible, that said, are NEA rifles substandard? I don't think they are, it's impossible to cut through all the "BURN THE WITCH!!!!", every time one of these threads pops up to tell though. They certainly screwed the pooch with the shill business, it has them starting at the back by default. I like the design of their rifles, I may not like how they have been engineered, I find it impossible to cut through the clutter and tell fact from fiction.

One thing is certain, some have had a great experience dealing with NEA customer service and some haven't. The question is why, NEA rep having a bad day, or gun owner screaming like an idiot about how they will sue...or perhaps create an "information" thread about (mostly) know problems after he's had a discussion by his own account was, money back or new rifle.
 
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In my opinion a rifle exploding in your face is cause for serious concern and yes reason for investigation and possible litigation.
I build jets for a living, if one of them explodes in mid flight what do you think happens?
But hey to each their own.
 
nugunner said:
An Afghanistan vet I talked to recently said their load was 300 rounds. We were talking about weight of his kit. Armour, ammo, 3 litres of water, helmet, NVG, etc. in 49°C heat. He also carried 80 rounds of 9mm. Didn't tell me how much was in mags or "loose".
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yeah 300 rounds inside the wire... maybe running convoy ops or a tag along with CIMIC

I carried 300 rounds in mags... another 300-500 in the pack, and we had over 10k (loose) in the car for the section, and more in the HQ car, the HQ car was packed to the tits with ammo, an entire side of the rear storage inside was ammo, one of the short benches was pulled out and replaced with stacked cans of ammo with a blast blanket over it so guys would still sit on it. the racks on the outside were filled some water, some food and but mostly with ammo. That doesn't even include the C6, 25mm m72's, 60mm mortar rounds and 84mm rockets...

I didn't step off with less then 90LB of kit, and it went up from there.
 
LordEvilPepper said:
yeah 300 rounds inside the wire... maybe running convoy ops or a tag along with CIMIC

I carried 300 rounds in mags... another 300-500 in the pack, and we had over 10k (loose) in the car for the section, and more in the HQ car, the HQ car was packed to the tits with ammo, an entire side of the rear storage inside was ammo, one of the short benches was pulled out and replaced with stacked cans of ammo with a blast blanket over it so guys would still sit on it. the racks on the outside were filled some water, some food and but mostly with ammo. That doesn't even include the C6, 25mm m72's, 60mm mortar rounds and 84mm rockets...

I didn't step off with less then 90LB of kit, and it went up from there.
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We were talking during a break in a course, so I didn't get all the details. I imagine that soldiers everywhere load up with whatever they think they will need for that day's needs. And then extra..
 
Recce21 said:
Double Combat Load aka 300 rounds minimum

If NEA truly had to put a maximum fire rate in their literature for a Semi Auto gun, that is pathetic and indicative of their quality being for casual shooters only and certainly not for serious shooters or Professionals.
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It is very disconcerting that NEA does sell some of their offerings overseas, albeit in likely limited quantities to "serious shooters or Professionals" who tempted by the low comparable price opted for them in blind error.

Those may in fact end up in the hands of persons whose lives might be dependent on the quality/reliability of the weapon.
 
It's called conditions...every warranty has them. Look at all the warranties for AR-15 rifles and you'll see they are pretty much the same. I tried to find the conditions for the AR-15's that have Limited Lifetime Warranties. Funny thing is I can't find actual conditions. I think you'd find them very similar. Bottom line no one is going to give you a lifetime warranty on a $1k rifle and not put similar, if not identical conditions in place. The rate of fire quoted is for an indefinite length of time, ie, an hour, or a week. Anyone have a rifle with a limited lifetime warranty? Look at the fine print I'll bet there's something similar there.

Also all the "Lifetime Warranties" I could find were only for civi shooters, no pro's.
 
redshooter said:
It's called conditions...every warranty has them. Look at all the warranties for AR-15 rifles and you'll see they are pretty much the same. I tried to find the conditions for the AR-15's that have Limited Lifetime Warranties. Funny thing is I can't find actual conditions. I think you'd find them very similar. Bottom line no one is going to give you a lifetime warranty on a $1k rifle and not put similar, if not identical conditions in place. The rate of fire quoted is for an indefinite length of time, ie, an hour, or a week. Anyone have a rifle with a limited lifetime warranty? Look at the fine print I'll bet there's something similar there.

Also all the "Lifetime Warranties" I could find were only for civi shooters, no pro's.
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look at the warranty fore a core15, you will be very surprised.
here go read this: https://core15rifles.com/the-core-warranty-see-shoot-believe.html#/cmsPage/50
too lazy for a link let me copy paste:
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A warranty. What else about a product says as much about how highly a maker values their own work? It’s a mark of integrity, an assurance that the person who built it believes in it enough to stand behind it. Lawyers, legalese and fine print have no place in it. And we feel ours both stands on its own and speaks for itself.

“The rifle you have just purchased has the simplest, most plainly written warranty you will ever read. This is no fine print. There are no exceptions. This CORE Rifle Systems firearm has been manufactured and assembled with painstaking care and precision by proud US Veterans, trained by the best there is. If anything is not up to your standard, accuracy included, if anything goes wrong, gets bent, broken, cracked, misaligned, tweaked, snapped or otherwise, simply contact one
of our professionals and we will work to make it right. If you are the 5th owner and the rifle has seen 40k+ rounds, it simply….doesn’t….matter. We stand behind our products and we take care of our customers. That is our promise and your assurance.”

That is the Core Difference. See. Shoot. Believe.
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it does not matter, they will make it right no matter what, now thats a company that stands behind their product.

they sell core15 at Wanstalls. Also a good bunch of people that fully reimbursed me when my 3000$ ar was complete sh!t.
 
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Just buy a bloody colt already. Stop wasting time with NEA. If it has to be canadian spend the extra dime on colt canadas.
 
they sell core15 at Wanstalls. Also a good bunch of people that fully reimbursed me when my 3000$ ar was complete sh!t.
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Now that is a hard one to swallow a $3000 AR complete sh!t but no BS warranty is the good part. Makes me wonder if those "expensive" ones are actually worth the money.
 
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