Neck size die ?

My option is a "secondary" use, because of my inherent cheap ;-) streak and love of tinkering.

The Lee die will work just as it's supposed to, as long as your setup is good.
 
I think the "partial neck sizing" and the "neck sizing" presupposes some consistency in neck wall thickness- within one round and round to round. Back in the Day, I had a hand operated neck trimmer - worked away at some 338 Win Mag R-P brass to get the necks even - and with my store-bought Winchester rifle, I could not show any difference on targets over my other loads. So, I gave up on "peeling" neck walls for that rifle. It might have made me "feel good" - but I could not show any difference on target.

Mostly today I focus on slick chambering for my hunting rounds - there does occur occasions where a follow-up shot is wanted "right now" - that is not a time to find out that I was too "cute" with that round.

At the time, I read that most brands of ordinary dies scrunch the necks to be too small - by pressing on the outside of the case neck wall - then the "expander ball" opens up that neck hole (from the inside) to proper size to seat that bullet - regardless of neck wall thickness. All the holes should be the same size. I even read of one fellow who would size his necks, without the expander installed, then re-install the expander and open those necks by inserting the expander INTO the case - he claimed he had much better consistency (less runout) when he did that.
 
You can not "neck size" using a full length sizing die. PERIOD.

As the case engages the FL die the neck diameter and the shoulder diameter and the body are all being sized at the same time ... and as that is happening the shoulder commonly bulges forward a little... causing firm closing of the bolt. A neck sizing die does not size the body of the case at all.

And the #12 above post is excellent advice.
Not true the neck is sizing almost the full length of the neck before any tapered part of the case starts sizing
 
Not true. Size 1/2 the neck and the body has engaged the die too. Try it with a dry case and a clean and dry die with only the neck lubed.
guntech, it really depends on the cartridge. But it doesn't hurt anything if a bit of the body gets resized, might even help a bit, depending on the case.
 
guntech, it really depends on the cartridge. But it doesn't hurt anything if a bit of the body gets resized, might even help a bit, depending on the case.
My point was simply to point out you do not neck size with a full length sizing die. You partially size the neck and the body. It is not neck sizing unless you are using a neck sizing die.

The only problem I have encountered when partially sizing a case with a full length die is sometimes the case is hard to chamber because the shoulder itself needs to be touched by the die flattening that small bulge that sometimes forms.
 
Just tried it on 30 06 which i believed i had neck sized before. Yes has started sizing well before the neck is sized
That little bit on the shoulder isn't much and just makes things work better all around. The lower portion of the neck, helps keep the case centered in the chamber and keeps the bullet concentric to the bore, which should enhance accuracy.

There was a fellow who used to show up at our club matches with an old 30/40 US Krag.

This was a match for "hunting rifles only." There was some flexibility in that we allowed custom barrels, but they had to be chambered for factory cartridges, and the barrel profiles couldn't be heavier than #3 profile, unless it was something with larger diameter bullets, but you get the idea.

He used to win a couple of turkeys every time he showed up. He reloaded his own ammo and loved the "long necks," because the bullet was held by the neck until it came into contact with the leade. He partially resized the necks to keep everything concentric to the axis of the bore, because he didn't like the "tilt" of the cartridge in the chamber.

Old school tech and it taught many of us a lesson few of us forgot after shooting with him.
 
My point was simply to point out you do not neck size with a full length sizing die. You partially size the neck and the body. It is not neck sizing unless you are using a neck sizing die.

The only problem I have encountered when partially sizing a case with a full length die is sometimes the case is hard to chamber because the shoulder itself needs to be touched by the die flattening that small bulge that sometimes forms.
Like the one shown in the pic taken by porpoise, and I fully agree with you on that.
 
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