Need help with my swedish mauser...

ben777lemay said:
This morning, I took some measurements and I think something is wrong, there is only one hole for the rear base :confused:
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Looks like there are three holes at the rear, just not ones that are useful for mounting a scope. I'd bet at least one of those other holes was for a Söderin or Elit Diopter target sight that came on the GC63 rifles. Baribal will know.

:) Stuart
 
Baribal said:
Ben,
Depending on your location, some iof us can point you to a good gunsmith who might be willing machining a custom base mount. Many manucturers make stock bars, including Leupold and Weaver. I had some made with Picattiny rails for multiple sights mounting.

Regarding your action, to me it's definitively a reworked action, as the S/N seems to have been milled out and re-stamped. As said before, the cocking piece and bolt handle are also a good indicator of a Target purpose-made rifle.
The "S" on the barrel means it's made for the 140 grains spitzed bullet (M/41). I wouldn't bet too much on the fact that this barrel wasn't match selected.
J.V. is the correct inspector stamp for a 1905 receiver (M96) but the serial wadefinitely changed to reflect a modified action (or, if you'd like a Target built rifle).
Is the stock glass bedded?
As a hint, to take close-up picture, take the macro option of you camera, it will make it clearer.
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I would like to see what kind of custom mounts can be built...
I'm from a little town near Montreal...
Any Moa bases for these rifles ???

The stock is not bedded.

I will try the macro but its an old camera, well see... Thx


josquin said:
Looks like there are three holes at the rear, just not ones that are useful for mounting a scope. I'd bet at least one of those other holes was for a Söderin or Elit Diopter target sight that came on the GC63 rifles. Baribal will know.

:) Stuart
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Yeah its drill and tap for target sights but dunno wich one...
 
Contact Michel Martel, at Armurier Lavaltrie. He made some for me in the past. There's almost no limits on what you can get, it will depend on $$$ you want to spend. Don't expect to have it back the day after though.

As for the drilled holes, I'd say it was likely either a Södering or a Elit, but there was too many models to be 100% sure.
The third hole seems have been for a one piece scope base mount.

Then, if the stock is not bedded, the rifle was a work in progress never finished. So, you have a good start as the action was reworked (and sure trued) and you have a more than decent stock. You may have to bed the stock though.
 
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The "Crown S" on the barrel means that the barrel on this rifles action was replaced at the Stockholm Tygstation (Repair Depot) at some point of it's life. It is not a CG 63 barrel but the action might be. Unfortunately the milled section on the left side is where the CG 63 information would have been with a rune (symbol looking like a small lightning bolt) would have been stamped signifying a reproof of the rifle. Also the Carl Gustaf made CG-63 rifles had the month/year date stamped on them in the same area, but other made up CG-63 rifles did not.

The sear has been modified for a short 8mm firing pin fall, and the end of the cocking piece has been shortened for a faster firing pin fall similar to that of a CG-63. This does no mean that it is a CG-63 or it is not a CG-63, only that the bolt/sear and other parts were modified or tuned up for better trigger pull. It was done by other gunsmiths in Sweden on both target and hunting rifles.

With the holes in the receiver, it was at some time, used for target work. Depending upon the measurements of the distance between the holes, it could have had Elit, Soderin, Pramm, GF, or Helquist target diopter sights on it as all of them have the diagonal type of hole placement.

It was not unknown in Sweden to mount m/96 FSR rifle actions in a CG-63 stock for hunting or "poor man's target rifles," much the same as we mount aftermarket stocks on rifles today. I have a similar rifle, but the barrel channel has been milled out at the sides, and two pieces of wood fitted to close up the gap. Mine has Weaver bases on it. Today we are seeing CG-63 rifle actions mounted on CG-80 stocks as an upgrade for target shooters. It is also possible that someone wanted a hunting rifle with a similar feel and characteristics as his target rifle.

There are a couple of ways to go on your rifle. You could have a gunsmith drill and tap the rear of the receiver for a Weaver base. If the front base screws do not line up, a front Weaver base could be drilled to fit, probably with drilling only one hole and using an existing hole in the base.

I would say that a Custom one piece base was mounted on your rifle. It would be fairly easy to get a currently made long one piece base made out of steel that has the correct front curvature for the receiver ring and line up one hole, and drilling a second hole in the correct location on the base. Then a rear hole could be made at the correct location on the base, but it would also necessitate making small intermediate spacer to go between the base bottom and the action. This would have to be custom made but should not be a great deal for anyone with a milling machine, or even a drill press. You could even do it with a file if you were carefull. Then silver solder or epoxy the spacer to the base, and solidly mount it. This is the way I would go, but then I have a 2000 square foot shop with a metal lathe, welding equipment and metal shapers, milling machines and such plus the time to play with it as I am retired.

BTW - I like my rifle. It is a bit heavy to carry in the dark woods, but sitting in a stand it is great. And it is a lot of fun to play around with in the summer on those 500 yard plus Gophers here on the Prairies.
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Buffdog,

As I said above, I think it's an unfinished "work in progress", maybe to try to make the rifle lighter for a small bodied person. The S/N was changed but the donnor rifle definitely was a M/96. As usual, you're correct for the "crowned S" for Stockholm repair, I didn't notice the "crown".
Not sure about this barrel, but what I see from the pics looks like slightly cut-down M/96 barrel.
 
buffdog said:
The "Crown S" on the barrel...
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Baribal said:
As I said above, I think it's an...
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This is really captivating !!! :popCorn:

In either cases, I think its a good buy :D

I will finally try the trigger * as is * and we'll see !!!

Thx guys for all the info...
I will call M. Martel this week...

The perfect custom base for my rifle is IMO like the Redfield base but with 15-20 MOA and weaver rails ( dovetail ) on top :rolleyes:
Almost like that :

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I found that so I bought it...
Its a CG63 barreled action.

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Its only drill and tap for Diopter so I can choose the scope mounts that I want.
 
If you use this receiver with an unmatching bolt, the headspace will have to be confirmed / corrected by a competent gunsmith. Same thing goes if you use the barrel on your existing receiver.
 
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Baribal said:
If you use this receiver with an unmatching bolt, the headspace will have to be confirmed / corrected by a competent gunsmith. Same thing goes if you use the barrel on your existing receiver.
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Yes I had thought... apart from that everything should fit... I think !!!
 
The receiver is one of about 60 000 M/94 and M/96 made into CG63 at Carl Gustav factory in 1964. The rune is the proofmark (for a 140 grains spitzer BT bullet at 2600 fps).
The original inspector was Olaf Darling Gibson so the receiver was made between 1895 and 1902.
Any markings of the barrel?
 
Baribal said:
The receiver is one of about 60 000 M/94 and M/96 made into CG63 at Carl Gustav factory in 1964. The rune is the proofmark (for a 140 grains spitzer BT bullet at 2600 fps).
The original inspector was Olaf Darling Gibson so the receiver was made between 1895 and 1902.
Any markings of the barrel?
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You are right 4 the receiver... Its a 1901 ;)

Tomorrow I will look for others markings.
 
Those rifles came factory with two stage triggers, there is quite a bit of travel in the first stage but when you hit the back wall it should just break.. Don't bother with a Rifle Basix or Timney Trigger on this one, it already has a glass trigger. In regards to a cheap boys laminate stocks, the CG63 models from Gustav came with a glass bedded walnut stock that is going to be far more accurate than a laminate after market stock. Just put a weaver #55 and #45 base on and mount a good scope before you change too much. Also the bolt doesn't quite look bent enough for scope clearance, you may need a high ring.
 
Good luck with the barreled action, i got one as well for under 50 bucks. Happen to have a couple of spare bolts and other various parts, makes another project to work on, like i needed more stuff in an already crowded gun room.
 
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