Caustic - as you likely know, very few will guarantee 1/2 MOA or less. Of factory offerings such a claim is made by SAKO re their TRG 22 and the same claim is made by PGW re their Coyote. In both cases I have found the claims to be supported by actual use. I do not know what what accuracy claim (if any) is made by AI but from observation theirrifles in .308 would appear to be half-minute capable. I suspect Nemesis claiming 1 MOA or less is a fair and honest one. Likely their in-house experience shows a range falling between .3 - .75. I suggest that any Nemesis better than .3 to be a rarity whilst any outside of .75 would be a cause for concern.
nemesis vs trg 22
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Those rifle would have a hard time keeping with my rifle, i am kind o a masoshist but her is a group shot last week at our private range, had no intention to post it not to feed the troll, that why it was all squashed up in my backpack but i can resist, you guys take your best shot, this group is Hornady 178 gr Amax, R-15,BR-2, OAL 2.915, 1.75 inch @ 600 METRES, that come down to a astonishing .05 MOA not .5... Cheers. JP ( A very satistied shooter )
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Actually ya, a couple of those rifle brands I have mentioned have consistently showed that they can shoot better than that. Most of the companies I mentioned guarantee at least a 3/8 MOA or better accuracy, and a few of them even guarantee 1/4 MOA or better (obviously the shooter has to do his/her part to make this happen, but the rifle is capable).
AJ Brown and TacOps rifles are some of the most accurate rifles on the market, and they are known to shoot well into the .0x's. Unbelievable accuracy. These rifles will do it all day, with factory ammunition (FGMM and Black Hills).
Here are some targets from some TacOps rifles:
3 round "cold shot" as the author calls it:
300 yard group:
Most, if not all of those targets were shot with factory ammo (FGMM).
I can do this all day. The Nemesis is not the only game in town, and there are A LOT of other worthy options to consider. Just because yours shoots good, doesn't mean there are other rifles that will shoot just as good or better. And I am not saying that TacOps is the only game in town, it's just one example of many fine rifles that are available. Honestly if I didn't get the TacOps, I would've went with a PGW Coyote in urban configuration, they are just plain badass. I also considered the USGW (now BlackOps) recon rifle.
Do you have any affiliation with Nemesis? You really seem to be pushing their rifles while putting down others. The OP should take a look at all the high end rifles that are available, and find out what works best for HIM, not what works for some random dude on the internet.
No problem. There are A LOT of excellent options to choose from out there, don't just limit yourself to the two that you have mentioned in the original. Though, you probably won't go wrong if you choose from those two either. Just make sure to do your research before you drop that kind of coin. These days you can get a rifle in almost any configuration you want that will shoot lights out, as long as you have the $$$.
Before buying the Nemesis i did not know it's existence and i bought without knowing nothing about it, neither all the rifles you just name, all those names are stranger to me, i explained that since a young age we ( friends and family own a private range and were very conservative like a close circle), when i bought my TRG, it was a big step, after that i dicover the Icon and the Benilli MR-1, i was a Steyr Scout fan for the last 10 year, i own 3, 2 in 308 and one in 376 Steyr, and my favorite rifle until one and a half year was the 44 mag, it come down to.. i did shoot many thousands times in my life, killed 40 deers 20 mooses, 40 wild turkeys ,but just discover lately all those wonderfull rifles and bought 20 rifles in the last 18 months, kind says to myself lets enjoy retierement and i do, kind of an experience newbie old in age... JP.
Thats the fun of this sport, there are a lot of hidden gems out there! Glad that you are enjoying your rifle, it doesn't seem like a slouch and you sure look like you can shoot!
Cheers
Wait a second! Did you just say .05 MOA @ 600 metres?? 1.75" Grouping?? something is off... I can see clearly now.
I will still go with TRG if I still have application for it.
I will still go with TRG if I still have application for it.
For the price they are asking for the Nemesis, you could get a really nice custom rifle built to your specs that would shoot lights out. Although the Nemesis looks cool, it definitely doesn't look as comfortable to shoot as other rifles, and doesn't seem to be as versatile for different shooting positions as other rifles would be. I don't really see the point of a take-down rifle, unless you're an assassin. But if you really want it, I wouldn't stop you from buying one.
Personally, I would spend the coin on a custom gun, such as TacOps (looking forward to receiving mine!), GAP, LA Precision, BlackOps Precision, AJ Brown, KMW, Surgeon, etc. These rifles would almost definitely outshoot a Nemesis, and would be a lot more versatile to different shooting conditions as well as being more "ergonomic". The only problem with these would be you would need to import them (questar or prophet river firearms can handle it for you) which will add on to the bill. It would be worth it though
Those rifle would have a hard time keeping with my rifle, i am kind o a masoshist but her is a group shot last week at our private range, had no intention to post it not to feed the troll, that why it was all squashed up in my backpack but i can resist, you guys take your best shot, this group is Hornady 178 gr Amax, R-15,BR-2, OAL 2.915, 1.75 inch @ 600 METRES, that come down to a astonishing .05 MOA not .5... Cheers. JP ( A very satistied shooter )
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I love how guys throw out the Nemesis in a discussion in order to bait caramel.
When did we change CGN to stand for "Caramel Gets Nutted"?
When did we change CGN to stand for "Caramel Gets Nutted"?
LMAO! That right there is funny.
I have no doubt his claims of accuracy are true but he's the only one on this site preaching the virtues of the Nemisis. Definitely a small fish in a big pond.
I don't think I'd be willing to poke $7k + on a rifle that has (1) known satisfied and vocal owner. TRG's are a known quantity at less than 1/2 the price with a long history of satisfied owners.
Caramel apparently owns TRG's as well so that gives him some particularly good insight.
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Originally Posted by caramel
Those rifle would have a hard time keeping with my rifle, i am kind o a masoshist but her is a group shot last week at our private range, had no intention to post it not to feed the troll, that why it was all squashed up in my backpack but i can resist, you guys take your best shot, this group is Hornady 178 gr Amax, R-15,BR-2, OAL 2.915, 1.75 inch @ 600 METRES, that come down to a astonishing .05 MOA not .5... Cheers. JP ( A very satistied shooter )
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their is the eastern shoot coming up this weekend he could show us how it shoots their....ottawa is not far from montreal
