New Guide Gun for Me! - Now with Pics!
- Thread starter MikeyT
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The main problem with the cross bolt safety on these lever guns (apart from being unnecessary) is that they engage not by choice but inadvertantly and with the slightest provication. They are not a safety feature, they are a legal butt cover, designed by lawyers not shooters.
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- AB foothills
And that about covers it.
I don't feel that the cross bolt safety does enough...
That is why I also leave my trigger locks installed at all times on my lever actions...
I will not remove them from the gun until I see the whites of the critters eyes.....
Those lever guns are dangerous....
WAAAAAAHHH HAAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
Sorry guys I couldn't help it....
That is why I also leave my trigger locks installed at all times on my lever actions...
I will not remove them from the gun until I see the whites of the critters eyes.....
Those lever guns are dangerous....
WAAAAAAHHH HAAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
Sorry guys I couldn't help it....
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- Back in the Peace Country
I learned to shoot on a 39a .22. That hammer safety was enough for a 11 yr old, should be enough for grown ups.
My crossbolt slides over so easy I concentrate more on not touching it then the half ####. Actually, I think for that reason the crossbolt is dangerous!!!
What do guys think of the hammer roll add on. I didn't put mine on.
My crossbolt slides over so easy I concentrate more on not touching it then the half ####. Actually, I think for that reason the crossbolt is dangerous!!!
What do guys think of the hammer roll add on. I didn't put mine on.
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- AB foothills
sealhunter said:
Do you mean the hammer extension?
I dont like em, but lots of guys do. They work really well when you put on a scope.
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- AB foothills
MHUNT said:
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- AB foothills
Barracuda no wanna play no more?
your beliefs are based on emotion not logic or common sense . No matter what is shown proven or displayed you will always Dismiss the crossbolts benifits .
Out of all the statements made the most logical one was Mhunts solution to machine one side flat so the crossbolt was still useable but you were unable to engage it without disntinct effort but you could easily disengage it. It doesnt matter that there is a half #### notch as that is not a complete safety .
I have had a hammer dragged back chaseing my screaming hounds through thick brush and on one occassion i have found the hammer resting on the crossbolt (bit of a spill on a mountain chaseing a bear) so i do know it works. Perhaps my circumstances are not the norm , the one way around it is to not load one in the pipe , or to not try to bust the brush to get to my hounds . If i am just walking woods i very often use half cocked and one in the pipe. They are all valid choices but to negate the benifits of the crossbolt would seem to be a bit short sighted and emotionally biased.
Out of all the statements made the most logical one was Mhunts solution to machine one side flat so the crossbolt was still useable but you were unable to engage it without disntinct effort but you could easily disengage it. It doesnt matter that there is a half #### notch as that is not a complete safety .
I have had a hammer dragged back chaseing my screaming hounds through thick brush and on one occassion i have found the hammer resting on the crossbolt (bit of a spill on a mountain chaseing a bear) so i do know it works. Perhaps my circumstances are not the norm , the one way around it is to not load one in the pipe , or to not try to bust the brush to get to my hounds . If i am just walking woods i very often use half cocked and one in the pipe. They are all valid choices but to negate the benifits of the crossbolt would seem to be a bit short sighted and emotionally biased.
I'm pretty sure I'll go with some sort of leather, rather than synthetic, I think it suits the traditional styling of the gun better. I've checked out Russel and Wholesale in Calgary and haven't seen anything that appeals to me yet.
Anybody have a strong sling recomendation for this rifle?
On the subject of the hammer extension: I won't be adding a scope to my rifle, but so far I like using the hammer extension for the same reason I like the big loop - it makes operation with gloves easier. I may end up removing it in the summer, but then again I may not.
Barracuda, I don't understand how you can say that our beliefs are based on "emotion not logic or common sence." Like I said, I used my lever action rifle to protect my son from a hungry cougar. I have serious concerns about how that would have turned out if I hadn't altered the crossbolt safety so that it didn't spontaniously engage. You can call that emotional if you like, but I thought protecting those we love was one of the best reasons for having and being proficiant with a firearm.
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- AB foothills
Yup, saving my ass or others from a pissed off grizzly is all about emotion. No common sense there what so ever
I have been face to face with a pissed off bear and I know what I need. What I dont need are safety features thought up by someone who never spends any time in the outdoors, but spends thier time thinking up new ways to make the company safe from lawsuits.
Your argument makes you feel safe with what you carry Barracuda and thats fine. I feel safe with what I carry, and know how to use it properly and safely.
So really, there is no argument.
If I was as fast with a lever gun as Camp Cook I might choose to load once I see the white of thier eyes, but I am not so I choose the next best thing
Johnn Peterson
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Chemainus B.C.
Getting back to the original thread, in just over two hours, three of us locally are going out to 'throw' a variety of big chunks of lead with our .45-70's.
hs4570 with his new Browning single shot, 303carbine with his new Marlin Guide Gun and me with my Marlin 1895GS. A little cool outside, for around here, but I'm sure a good time will be had by all.
hs4570 with his new Browning single shot, 303carbine with his new Marlin Guide Gun and me with my Marlin 1895GS. A little cool outside, for around here, but I'm sure a good time will be had by all.
Johnn Peterson said:Getting back to the original thread, in just over two hours, three of us locally are going out to 'throw' a variety of big chunks of lead with our .45-70's.
hs4570 with his new Browning single shot, 303carbine with his new Marlin Guide Gun and me with my Marlin 1895GS. A little cool outside, for around here, but I'm sure a good time will be had by all.
Sounds like fun! Take a few pictures for us.
Johnn Peterson
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Chemainus B.C.
Just returned from our '.45-70 shoot, and as predicted, a good time was had by all. It ended up being a 'jug shoot'. I took a few jugs with, plastic orange juice containers, half of which were filled with water and the other half were the same, except in a frozen state, for comparisson load testing. This is part of my plastic recycling program. Shoot it before you recycle it. 303carbine & I defended the home front with our Guide Models by blasting the water filled jugs into oblivion and with the frozen ones, made 'Ice Whine'. hs4570 gave us a graphic example of what accuracy his new Browning single shot is capeable of.
MikeyT, as / your request, I took my Moose hunting camera and took a few pictures. I'll get into using my new digital camera!! Soon! In the meantime, when I get the film developed I'll see if I can 'sweet talk' grouseman into doing another post for me.
It ended up being a 'jug shoot'. I took a few jugs with, plastic orange juice containers, half of which were filled with water and the other half were the same, except in a frozen state, for comparisson load testing. This is part of my plastic recycling program. Shoot it before you recycle it. 303carbine & I defended the home front with our Guide Models by blasting the water filled jugs into oblivion and with the frozen ones, made 'Ice Whine'. hs4570 gave us a graphic example of what accuracy his new Browning single shot is capeable of.MikeyT, as / your request, I took my Moose hunting camera and took a few pictures. I'll get into using my new digital camera!! Soon! In the meantime, when I get the film developed I'll see if I can 'sweet talk' grouseman into doing another post for me.
