New Norinco M14 Shipment Coming In!

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After reading this quote I can honestly say I will never purchase anything from your store. I also have seen this flyer while I was talking to a friend at a shop close to me. I can say without doubt that I am ashamed to read a dealer attacking someone on a forum over a price he knows is out of line and is a quick money grab. If I decide to by one from my dealer I will post a copy of my receipt and I invite everyone else to do the same

What the hell is wrong with some of you?????????/ can i come in to your place of work and tell you what you should be making as i feel your product is over priced???????????

This place is packed with whinny socialists. If you dont like his price shut your mouth and move on. The free market will deterime what he can and can not charge. Keep in mind he is the one forking out the cash to float his rifle delivery...... not you.

There is a lot of risk for these dealers selling guns in the Canadian market, look at what happened to CAM AM. The poor guy was raped by our govt and is probably floating atleast a mill while morons complain about not getting their refunds quickly enough.

Have any of you ever wondered why colt canada will not sell to the public???????? take a look at this thread and if you cant figure it out stop posting.
 
Honestly I jsut erased what I said before, I'm tired of talking about this. I scares me to see how many Sheep there are who will pay more for something they know is not a value. If I ran my business like this I would be closed in months because after word of mouth got around I was charging people more simply to line my pockets instead of giving people a fair deal no one would shop in my store.

it goes back to something an old manager told me "people should expect and want to pay more cause they know they are supporting a local business."

he's now out of business

i doubt very much you have a business............ unless picking up a govt assitance check makes you a contractor.
 
GLO 7;
"I would only buy direct"
I apologize, I had no idea that you were that big, As Marstar currently supplies the two largest importers in the USA as well as most of the wholesale distributors in Canada, I did not realize we had missed one.

That's correct. I will only buy direct or I will pass on the offer. I have no room for distributors. I'm just a speculator with a small "corporation." Perhaps the word corporation implies largesse, but as you know, it is just a legal framework for a business.

I am puzzled by your statement "I'd rather not reveal the company name until such time as I have export/import under control,"
Both of the firms you mentioned have absolutely no reason to be ashamed of their company or of their internmational reputation.
I can't see why you would be ??

"If and when" I secure a shipment from Norinco, you'll know exactly who I am and who I represent. In fact, I will pledge the publishing of the bill of sale online.

"I would rather not have my company name discredited or marked as a failure." My friend if you are concerned of failures in this business then you are truely a "virgin", the arms trade is full of failures and disappointments, if you haave not experienced any then you are either very astute or VERY lucky.

Nevertheless, as I said in a prior post, if these guys can bring it in, so can I.

"I am not really interested in any other firearm. " For someone who claims to have been a "gunrunner" you can afford to pass on deals without knowing what they are, I envy you.

Did I say that? I am not a gun runner John. I was referring to the old boys gun running network. "Skim Reading" on the Internet is a common problem. The way human beings read is changing.

On the other hand should you be interested in some very nice surplus rifles let me know. Garands, Enfields, Mausers etc.... My employees are currently doing the inventory of three foreign sites....

Those are all interesting firearms, but none have the potential of the M14, besides, my company is in process of manufacturing parts for the M14.

I don't understand your fixation on money costs etc, etc, a firm the size of yours would not worry about that.... MY RULE of thumb in the surplus business or for that matter any arms import these days, IF you can't afford to lose it don't buy it....Just like going to the casino....Its a gamble.

Perhaps the above didn't come out as you intended? Is there a business that shouldn't be concerned about costs? Norinco Equipment is a mulit-billion dollar corporation that does business regularly in Canada. Risk is mitigated somewhat.

I am certain you won't mind if I speak with Robert about some of the material, I would feel better if I could say who I was talking with rather than GLO-7 ?? Or are you the new owner ??

Right now, none of that matters. If I am successful in importing these items, I will gladly invite you to my place of business and show you new, innovative applications for this rifle. Good times John.
 
Glo I still don't think you understand what we have been saying... the cost of the item is only a fraction of the cost of retailing it...

You keep making statements that you can't back up and every time you get called on it.. You make even more assertions and qualifications on your statements...

Just give us a break; Enough talk... go borrow your million dollars, bring in your 2000 guns and sell them for $350 and tell everybody how much money you made on them.. Please.. I for one am tired of the stuff that you are shoveling I can go to barn if I need that...
 
WHAT THE HELL, am I asking the wrong questions or simply being ignored ??
I cannot seem to get a straight answer from GLO-7 ??

John
 
Perhaps the above didn't come out as you intended? Is there a business that shouldn't be concerned about costs? Norinco Equipment is a mulit-billion dollar corporation that does business regularly in Canada. Risk is mitigated somewhat.

What are you new? Maybe you have missed where a couple of importers have had non-restricted rifles classed as prohibs upon arrival into Canada at the whim of the RCMP. These importers are out hundreds of thousands if not millions. It doesn't matter how big the corporation you are dealing with is, the RCMP can make your money go bye-bye in a hurry.

That's why John said its a gamble, you get all your ducks in a row then roll the dice when they land in Canada and pray the RCMP don't tilt the dice to snake eyes...
 
What are you new? Maybe you have missed where a couple of importers have had non-restricted rifles classed as prohibs upon arrival into Canada at the whim of the RCMP. These importers are out hundreds of thousands if not millions. It doesn't matter how big the corporation you are dealing with is, the RCMP can make your money go bye-bye in a hurry. That's why John said its a gamble, you get all your ducks in a row then roll the dice when they land in Canada and pray the RCMP don't tilt the dice to snake eyes...

This is common knowledge. I didn't say there was no risk, only that risk is mitigated with dealing with a company like Norinco. You are skim reading.
 
This is common knowledge. I didn't say there was no risk, only that risk is mitigated with dealing with a company like Norinco. You are skim reading.

So the million dollars Can-Am lost with the T-97's bought from Norinco mitigated the risk? I was not skim reading, I was explaining to you why John said importing any arms these days is a big gamble and to brace yourself for a loss of the whole purchase.
 
That's correct. I will only buy direct or I will pass on the offer. I have no room for distributors. I'm just a speculator with a small "corporation." Perhaps the word corporation implies largesse, but as you know, it is just a legal framework for a business.

If you dont own the factory your nothing more then a distributor.



"If and when" I secure a shipment from Norinco, you'll know exactly who I am and who I represent. In fact, I will pledge the publishing of the bill of sale online.

That just verfiys your a moron. why would you show how much you paid for something? Are you alergic to profit. If the market will bear it why would you be ashamed of doubling your margin?



Did I say that? I am not a gun runner John. I was referring to the old boys gun running network. "Skim Reading" on the Internet is a common problem. The way human beings read is changing.

"old boys" as in the guys who are take the risks and pay for the tooling and start up costs?????? I think its safe to say you have never gone abroad for manufacturing and been forced to cough up large sums of cash for tooling.



Those are all interesting firearms, but none have the potential of the M14, besides, my company is in process of manufacturing parts for the M14.
Everyone is making components for the M-14. Unless your on main land china im willing to bet your not making parts for norinco. Chances are your just another po dunk back woods machine shop looking to fill space on your 15 year old 4 axis left by the drop in the automotive markets.



Perhaps the above didn't come out as you intended? Is there a business that shouldn't be concerned about costs? Norinco Equipment is a mulit-billion dollar corporation that does business regularly in Canada. Risk is mitigated somewhat.
Until the govt jams up your shipment and your left floating a couple mil.



Right now, none of that matters. If I am successful in importing these items, I will gladly invite you to my place of business and show you new, innovative applications for this rifle. Good times John

This is giving me flash backs of the gecko45 thread...... http://www.geocities.com/suketh.geo/gun/mall_ninja_1.html
 
When Glo is finished his vacation in the land of make belive, can I have my turn pretending I know everything about the firearms buisness? It looks like fun not knowing squat and guessing at stuff and then telling those who have figured it out how they have gone wrong. You think you know it all but you will not give out any information about you. You hide behind a user name (like a 50 year internet predetor trying to lure teen girls). Since no one is going to say it, I will gladly take this one.

Glo7.... You are a fool!!!

1. a silly or stupid person; a person who lacks judgment or sense.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fool

I know what your responce will be so let me say it for you.

(bafoon voice) "Well just wait and see, when my corporation brings in the M14s and sells them at a lower price, then you can decide if I am a fool".


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So the million dollars Can-Am lost with the T-97's bought from Norinco mitigated the risk? I was not skim reading, I was explaining to you why John said importing any arms these days is a big gamble and to brace yourself for a loss of the whole purchase.

Ok, understood. The T97 is a bullpup. Certainly a "riskier product" in Liberal Canada than a non-restricted 22" barreled M14 that makes an obviously good hunting rifle.
 
There are two types of people in this world…Doers and watchers.

The sad part is so many on this site like to spend their time telling others how something can't be done. Be it hunting with a non magnum caliber, to importing ammo and firearms, etc.

Perhaps because so many in this country have been raised on the Socialist teat of Canadian business...ie Monopolies.

:rolleyes:
 
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