New Ruger American Striker fired pistol
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Has the Canadian priced been announced?
As an aside anyone taking a dremel to the back of the slide and intends to shoot IDPA is going to be limited to ESP Division.
Can-Down makes a very valid point. If the knuckle is indeed taking a beating then the design hitch will be a major opps for Ruger when it runs through the trials. The gun does nothing more than my M&P's do but then the gun is designed for exactly the same market.
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Bob
As an aside anyone taking a dremel to the back of the slide and intends to shoot IDPA is going to be limited to ESP Division.
Can-Down makes a very valid point. If the knuckle is indeed taking a beating then the design hitch will be a major opps for Ruger when it runs through the trials. The gun does nothing more than my M&P's do but then the gun is designed for exactly the same market.
Take Care
Bob
The one thing it does that neither your M&Ps nor my Glocks do is come apart without pulling the trigger.
That doesn't make much difference to me, but for institutional purchases...
One thing that struck me about the beating it puts on your hand, though: I have scarring on my hand from Glocks. I have often wondered whether, if they were introduced now, they'd get absolutely panned for their terrible ergonomics. This appears to be a polymer nine that cuts the web of your hand and beats the #### out of one knuckle...isn't that a Glock patent infringement?
That doesn't make much difference to me, but for institutional purchases...
One thing that struck me about the beating it puts on your hand, though: I have scarring on my hand from Glocks. I have often wondered whether, if they were introduced now, they'd get absolutely panned for their terrible ergonomics. This appears to be a polymer nine that cuts the web of your hand and beats the #### out of one knuckle...isn't that a Glock patent infringement?
For the first 25 years or so I would think.
I prefer to just push the lever down on my M&P to drop the sear. Pulling the trigger when you are a forgetful retiree is probably something I should not do. One has to adjust ones life choices as one ages I am afraid. Such adjustments tend to extend the ageing process which for the most part is a good thing. :>).
A friend of mine in Texas has had his Glock 19 grip amended by his 'smith. Basically the back of the grip is now straight with the almost hump completely removed. I would not have thought it was possible but there you go. He claims it makes a world of difference in the feel of the grip and if it does I could get interested in the Glock platform. In stock form, for me the grip is horribly uncomfortable and a deal breaker. Ah well like women, there is a gun for everyone, you just have to find one the fills your needs.
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Bob
wayupnorth
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since when do you need to fire the M&P to disassemble it?
if you follow the instructions in the manual that came with the gun you just need to flick the seer deactivation lever forward (which im sure you know) instead of disassembling it the lazy way and firing it.
OK he may have said M&P or Glocks require the sear to be disengaged to remove the slide. The point the Ruger doesn`t is a positive. Most of us undrstood what he was saying.
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Bob
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wayupnorth
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no, he did say you had to fire it, and there is a way you can take the gun down and fire it to disengage the seer.
but you dont have too, you can do it the normal way that the manual shows and you wont have to fire it.
but ya i know what you mean.
but you dont have too, you can do it the normal way that the manual shows and you wont have to fire it.
but ya i know what you mean.
That's what I was getting at...I have rarely seen anyone do it the "official" way, to be honest; so rarely I forgot it was possible, in fact.
Snakehunter
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The notion that a firearm is better than another because you can remove the slide without pressing the trigger is kinda novel. I mean, when was the last time anybody here removed a slide without first checking the gun was empty, or if absolutely necessary, wasn't pointed at a safe backstop? Rudimentary safety basics 101 in my opinion. If you're too stupid to safety a gun, even owning a Ruger shouldn't be an option for you.
I really wish they kept the loaded chamber indicator, everything else I kind of like, hopefully they make some revisions. My SR9 circa 2011 did have a very heavy recoil spring, one I bought in it's place very late 2015 had a lighter one.
Sadly it happens frequently enough that many departmental purchases now specifically write this into their RFPs.
Ah the words of someone who goes through life and never makes mistakes. Youth most be served and ignorance forgiven.
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Bob
Snakehunter
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I'm not sure where the youth would be served without decent safety protocols, but I instill in my kids, my students and anybody else I meet at the gun range that before you do anything with a firearm, you always safety it first.
I like that the Ruger doesn't require pulling the trigger to remove the slide, I just don't like that lack of safety protocols is a selling point.
Just my opinion.
Glen
I like that the Ruger doesn't require pulling the trigger to remove the slide, I just don't like that lack of safety protocols is a selling point.
Just my opinion.
Glen
Glen nobody mentioned reducing safety protocols. We have them to reduce the risk of ADs and injuries happening but careless mistakes still do happen. It can happen in an NY minute. Using the trigger pull to disengage the sear has caused injuries . Should they happen...no, but they still do. Life s like that. The fact this pistol removes the need to disengage the trigger just eliminates one possible way something that should not happen....happens. This is a good thing. I have no idea how they did it but Glock and to a lessor extent S&W ought to see if they can amend their designs. It isn`t like the Glock and M&P have no evolved over the years.
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Bob
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I've since seen some more positive reviews, and I'll have to check it out in person once dealers start to stock them. I've been trying to find the best stock service style pistol (for me) and it's been a long process lol. I like that the SR9 is slim, but at the same time, I like the beefier grip and slide on this.
The whole trigger pull to remove the slide on an SR series Ruger is total BS anyhow for two reasons -
1) if someone is that stupid that they don't prove the gun safe, nothing is going to stop them from doing stupid things and hopefully they never reproduce
2) the slide can be removed without pulling the trigger by simply pushing down on the ejector with a finger (or something else if worried about finger pinching) through the open ejection port with the slide locked back and it makes no difference whether this is done before or after removing the takedown pin
Field stripping mine goes like this -
a) drop mag, clear and verify safe
b) lock slide back
c) remove takedown pin
d) push ejector lever down until it *clicks* with finger through ejection port
e) holding frame in strong hand, pull slide back to release and then slide it forward off the frame
f) remove recoil spring assembly and barrel from slide
No drama, no scary trigger pulling and it takes about 10 seconds without any tools at all.
1) if someone is that stupid that they don't prove the gun safe, nothing is going to stop them from doing stupid things and hopefully they never reproduce
2) the slide can be removed without pulling the trigger by simply pushing down on the ejector with a finger (or something else if worried about finger pinching) through the open ejection port with the slide locked back and it makes no difference whether this is done before or after removing the takedown pin
Field stripping mine goes like this -
a) drop mag, clear and verify safe
b) lock slide back
c) remove takedown pin
d) push ejector lever down until it *clicks* with finger through ejection port
e) holding frame in strong hand, pull slide back to release and then slide it forward off the frame
f) remove recoil spring assembly and barrel from slide
No drama, no scary trigger pulling and it takes about 10 seconds without any tools at all.
Ruger doesn't have a good track record with centerfire pistols, take a look at how many of the original model offerings are still in production when they started making these 30 years ago.... Zero. Over a dozen different models that didn't catch on.
